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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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I had a 1st generation Indian taxi driver rant about the Romainians making it impossible to walk through a part of Leeds. Not themselves, other people.
Fun ride.
Isn't he perpetually surrounded by security?
figadapaura
Member
If a British born black person voted to keep Middle Eastern muslims out of the country, how does that translate to them hating themselves? Not all non-white people are the same.....
This shouldn't be complicated to figure out. For one thing, they dont have to hate themselves, merely have fuck you, got mine attitude. Secondly, even if they have no I'll feeling toward their own race there is nothing to stop xenophobia towards others. Black voters cann still be racist towards Muslims. Muslims can still want to kick out Poles, etc etc.
HazySaiyan
Banned
Fuck, just guess Diana conspiracies every Monday and you'd win like 50% of time.
GamingKaiju
Member
I hope something is done soon so this whole issue is dealt with and the right(remain) decision is made. The longer it goes on the worse I see it getting. But if anything I see a whole new pro-EU movement sweeping round the UK.
Phantast2k
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@NHSEngland
The trending picture that has been shared a thousand times ...
An #NHS surgical team.
#LoveOurEUStaff
Meh. Laid off British steel workers will be just as good as doctors / nurses.
The trending picture that has been shared a thousand times ...
An #NHS surgical team.
#LoveOurEUStaff
Meh. Laid off British steel workers will be just as good as doctors / nurses.
Ha, I had a paper round as a teenager and it was pretty much all immigrants and Diana conspiracy theories on the Express front page. Then Madeleine McCann disappeared and they moved onto Maddie conspiracies.
Parliament: hundreds of representatives, chosen through elections in each country.
Commission: sort of small senate, consisting of one representative per country focusing on an important area.
Council: the actual 28 prime ministers/presidents of the countries in the EU.
@NHSEngland
The trending picture that has been shared a thousand times ...
An #NHS surgical team.
#LoveOurEUStaff
Meh. Laid off British steel workers will be just as good as doctors / nurses.
And on the plus side, there will likely be more laid off steel workers. The NHS is saved!
Pyramid head
Banned
The chinese guy who runs our local chippy exclaimed the his family all voted leave because, 'they're just letting too many of them in now'.
Fuck them, got theirs, basically.
Edit: Oh, they employ a Polish delivery girl too. Extra stupidity.
HazySaiyan
Banned
Madeline McCann and Diana conspiracies are The Express' bread and butter. They don't call it 'The Daily Ex-Princess' for nothing XD
@NHSEngland
The trending picture that has been shared a thousand times ...
An #NHS surgical team.
#LoveOurEUStaff
Meh. Laid off British steel workers will be just as good as doctors / nurses.
Don't worry guys 350 million will go to the NHS.
Souldestroyer Reborn
Banned
Disappointed, I actually replied to your post, but fuck me for not doing so quick enough eh?
I shouldn't even waste time acknowledging this post, but, if you think that all leave voters are in support of these actions then that says much more about you than it does me.
Watch any news that you wish. If you honestly don't think that the EU wants to become one sole nation then I guess I'm as flabbergasted as the remain voters on here.
Indeed. However, who says that they would use it?
There are people, some of the in this very thread, who would be delighted for the Government to shit can the recent referendum.
If a referendum was held in the future on that very subject, and the majority of people voted against it, like the recent referendum, there would be mass outcries from people demanding a "Second Referendum" or that the referendum isn't binding, and even for the Government to ignore the voice of the people of which it asked.
A USE is the logical path forward for the EU. What started out as a trade agreement has morphed already, with little to no input from the voting public in the grand scheme of things, and it's been what 70 odd years if you take into account the the EU was formed from the ECSC, 1993 if you want to go by actual "birth".
Don't worry I don't take it personally, I actually enjoy the discussion, just a shame that out of like a dozen replies there's maybe 2 which are actually worth acknowledging.
I do believe that is the outcome, one way or another, however that is a long, long way out. I mean there are people who cannot live in harmony in one country never mind across multiple under one rule, you only have to look at some people in this thread as an example where if they don't agree with something then it's game over, fuck everyone.
I strongly believe that we, as a species, are incapable of living under one rule.
Maybe this whole vote will give the EU the jolt it needs to re-think its course, although I don't hold my breath, it has already been mentioned by Merkel that they need to "prevent" countries from leaving the EU, not "persuade". She isn't stupid, she knows the meaning of words.
As far as I'm concerned a vote to stay in the EU was a vote for the status quo.
Great piece by George Monbiot in the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/28/brexit-disaster-crisis-changes-left
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/28/brexit-disaster-crisis-changes-left
And how many of those young people went and voted Remain a few days ago? 36% of them?
I think the phrase this past week has been "It's better than nothing."
maquiladora
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The fact that they actually made the effort to get out and protest rather than just moan on social media would lead me to guess that most of these probably also got out and voted too.
Stallion Dan
Member
Too many people in a country, public services cannot cope, not enough housing, wage suppression, lack of jobs etc etc.
Perfecty fine reasons to vote leave and try halt the problem. Nothing at all to do with racism.
But leaving solves none of those problems?
Stallion Dan
Member
It prevents (slows the rate really) the problem getting worse.
Godwin's law still alive and well. Yes, this is just like Nazi Germany.
Not without also doing something else. Tell me how you think it does.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
Lack of jobs is getting worse.
blazeuk
Member
It would never happen but you're right, it's frustrating that so many are jumping on the entire UK when pretty much half the country wanted to remain. I know that leave won so it's easier to just suggest the whole of the UK should suffer but it's honestly quite sad that 48% of us who do identify as being European are so easily forgotten outside of certain leave campaigners who seem to now be panicking at the result and looking for ways out.
Also not true.
That you say this like you've made some sort of profound reasonable point is amusing because it just illustrates a chronic disconnect from reality.
I think I'm going to have to re-evaluate a statement I made in another thread where I suggested the US might be the dumbest country in the world.
Clearly now the UK has beaten it, committing a serious mortal wound to itself is way dumber than apathy in the face of an out of touch political process.
And our politicians are seriously dumb if they think they can get a good out deal, when you have people like Farage shitting up the negotiating atmosphere. He's there perception of us. He's insulting them and then were going to negotiate with them, its like going up to a bunch of sharks and expecting them not to eat you.
Clearly now the UK has beaten it, committing a serious mortal wound to itself is way dumber than apathy in the face of an out of touch political process.
And our politicians are seriously dumb if they think they can get a good out deal, when you have people like Farage shitting up the negotiating atmosphere. He's there perception of us. He's insulting them and then were going to negotiate with them, its like going up to a bunch of sharks and expecting them not to eat you.
jufonuk
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Cameron has no power ATM. I think it's a stalling tatic on art51.
The best thing he should of done was to null the ref and then resign.
Watching Ch4 news and there was a massive pro-EU demrostration at WestminsterI just hope the EU members are watching this and seeing that the nation is divided and we are not happy.
Yeah . I think EU know we are troubled and need saving before we do any more damage to ourselves and the EU as a whole.
They should call of leave because it will damage the British people . All the hate crimes we are seeing if it goes further possibly riots.
Cameron should just fucking fall on his sword . Farage thrown out .
The EU Are the shown as the professional adults they are , UK looks like a toddler throwing a fit.
We will be a toothless partner in the EU but still in it.
The massve amoubt of schadenfreude this has caused is a big example to all why we need the EU.
Heckler456
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HazySaiyan
Banned
It's probably not going to do that either.
I hate this stick with it even though it would be awful because democracy. We should not ignore the issues that got us here, they should be a primary focus but throwing out the baby with the bathwater is stupid.
The stalling right now, as much as it's hurting our economy and other's, is unfortunately the best way forward.
Cameron can't reject the result of the referendum. If he does so and resigns, his successor will just push on with it. If he does so and stays in power, he'll be ousted and his successor will push on with it, or if he managed to stay in power there would be massive civil unrest.
The best way forward for ourselves and Europe is to acknowledge the referendum but delay it as much as possible. Let people get a taste of what's to come by giving the turmoil enough time to hit the highstreet. Let the City quietly pile on the pressure on the Tories (which, believe me, is happening). We may even need a significant sacrificial lamb, like a major institution leaving the UK.
By the time it comes to pressing the a50 shaped red button, the public will have no taste for it, and the EU might be able to offer up some token gesture (which will not be labelled as another British concession, but instead a required measure to "stabilise the UK").
The EU "rethinking its course" basically translates to, at best, us stalling while the rest of the world continues careering towards globalisation and better positioning itself to pick up whatever balls we drop. Think western manufacturing and low/unskilled jobs have been hit hard? It will look like nothing comparing to when automation and AI really takes off.
The EU, as bureaucratic and wasteful as it can be sometimes, is a way for Europe to circle the wagons and make sure we're not taken advantage of (like the sourcing requirements on manufacturing) by larger players.
Shadax the wizard
Member
I don't understand the sudden(?) uprising of violence and hostility against immigrants after the referendum? Did people actually think that Brexit was short for immigrants will be forced to exit Britain or what? These stories popping up are just sickening.
Don't you know that people not in this country have some magic inalienable right to move to our country that we have denied them?
Yes.
ClosingADoor
Member
Yes.
Bobnob
Member
ya it's cheaper for our government rather than train our own.@NHSEngland
The trending picture that has been shared a thousand times ...
An #NHS surgical team.
#LoveOurEUStaff
Meh. Laid off British steel workers will be just as good as doctors / nurses.
no, but it is a convenient excuse for acting out your innate racist tendencies
You don't understand racists being more open with their racism after a referendum that was based around immigration, aka mainstream friendly racism, told them they were right?
Immigrants are a net contributor to the economy, if public services are being underfunded then it's central government pissing the money away to get the balance of payments in the black but not not addressing our trade deficit.
Pyramid head
Banned
How so? Or do you mean the posibility that the rise in racism sickens people enough that they don't wont want to come here?
Look at the post just below your's. It's from a dedicated Farage supporter.
As long as it's not their jobs, they won't care.
Will be interesting if the media even reports it tbh.
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