I've done it with my Lumia xl. Wifi hdmi, Bluetooth mouse/kb. Totally works. No dock required.
At home slightly easier thanks to miracast on tv.
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I've done it with my Lumia xl. Wifi hdmi, Bluetooth mouse/kb. Totally works. No dock required.
At home slightly easier thanks to miracast on tv.
wesleyshark
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Yeah definitely not in denial haha. WP has an insanely small market share and it's so far behind where android and ios are... But I keep coming back to WP, especially with wp10.
For me, Edge, sms, email, calender, cortana, and the keyboard are what has me locked in. Whenever I use hangouts, chrome and Google now on my shield k1 tablet, the difference is jarring. There is definitely a lack of apps for Windows phone, but the apps that are there are so buttery smooth and reliable to use.
I'll probably continue to use this 1520 until it croaks, and then buy another one, or the 950xl, to replace it lol (unless the surface phone rumors are true).
For me, Edge, sms, email, calender, cortana, and the keyboard are what has me locked in. Whenever I use hangouts, chrome and Google now on my shield k1 tablet, the difference is jarring. There is definitely a lack of apps for Windows phone, but the apps that are there are so buttery smooth and reliable to use.
I'll probably continue to use this 1520 until it croaks, and then buy another one, or the 950xl, to replace it lol (unless the surface phone rumors are true).
a Master Ninja
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I had a Windows Phone and what bothered me more than the lack of apps was when Microsoft prioritized development of their own apps for iOS and Android. That's when I knew they had given up.
If you don't care about apps (I have an iPad for that) then Windows Phone is the way to go. I ditched all my apps when I made the jump to Windows Phone from Android, no ragrets. My next phone will be a Windows Phone too since the newest Blu phone is like $200CAD unlocked. I could buy like 6 of those for the price of an iPhone.
SenjutsuSage
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Yea, I feel it's dead too, sadly. Microsoft needs to create a Android/Windows Phone hybrid, something that can access the google app store, and then they can have a potential winner on their hands.
Japanmanx3
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Best mobile OS out here. Shafted by developers tho. I hope WinMo 10 plus the apple app bridge helps. Waiting til surface to see if I'm gonna stay around. The Nexus 6P has been moaning my name recently....
uncelestial
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Not specifically related to this thread, but I wouldn't mind The Verge being a banned site on NeoGAF.
The Surface has helped make inroads in that regards; 2015: The year that Microsoft started getting the benefit of the doubt. (Arstechnica)
XBox was cool once. And they own Minecraft which is the coolest thing for the young generation.
I got a 640 for $30 to use basically as a Spotify remote for my receiver system. Spotify sucks complete and total ass on Windows phone and even if it could play music reliably (it can't) it won't stream to external devices. No matter how little you ask of this platform it won't get it done.
dragonelite
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What i really want is a environment i can do some light programming in.
Something like running vs code/vim and git and enough performance
to run some unit test for on the run
Just drop my smaller keyboard, mouse and dock into my bag.
aka a weaker surface 4 in phone format.
LostMyNarbles
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The Verge aren't exactly the biggest Microsoft fans and Tom Warren has gotten pretty cynical since Windows Phone has been blundering.
Even though I now have an iPhone, I don't really have many apps installed on it. That might be because my iPad has lots of apps and that is always a nicer place to use them. So I only have mobile critical ones that I'll need out and about - pocket casts, banking etc. Maybe that's why I didn't mind having windows phone, as the app gap wasn't that important.
I wonder if by now it's just become a millstone around MS' neck and even if they fix it, WP will still be 'no apps' - like PS4 has no games.
Huh? Most of its success is outside the US. Certainly full of Lumias on the rush hour trains I commute on in southern England.
n64coder
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Odd. I haven't had any trouble with Spotify streaming to a Bluetooth speaker with Windows 8.1 and 10.
I love my WP and it meets my needs. It has a bunch of core apps that are good and meets my needs. I'm over the need of having a billion apps on my iOS device that I never use. I do like having a phone that is unique while everyone else has an iPhone that they mostly do the same stuff that I do (use the browser, check emails/texts, make calls, read news).
How do you kill that which has no life?
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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This is sad. Windows Phone is a better OS than Android (aside from the app ecosystem).
People are too hung up on apps IMHO. When I talk to friends about phones, they always bring up the apps that I don't get in the Windows Store, but then I check with them, and they hardly use the apps either, so what are Windows Phone users REALLY missing? I got my Uber, Runtastic, Spotify, banking, parking and news app. That's all I really need, thank you very much.
iceblade997
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Not quite. Don't forget before Windows Phone there was Windows Mobile dating back to quite a bit before Windows Mobile 2003 SE. Phones like the HTC Touch Diamond, HTC HD2, iMate JasJam and iMate Jam all ran Windows Mobile in its various iterations. Microsoft has had (and been involved in) phone OSes for a very long time. Hardware on their own brand not so much, but the OSes, definitely.
Nikodemos
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It's the illusion of abundance, really. People love to see big name apps in the store, even though they don't use them, or not even download them.
maquiladora
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That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die.
JimiNutz
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It's all about having the option. Sure Windows Phone may have the basics but the app support is poor and those apps don't get upgraded or regularly supported. Plus what happens when the next big app craze comes out and it's once again not on Windows Phone? Why would people buy into an ecosystem that does not get the newest content and is constantly playing catch up?
The app this is a huge deal.
Nikodemos
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The Android wrapper was causing performance issues so it was dumped. IIRC the iOS compatible part is still chugging along.
I can see how it's a big deal to sheeple who like to stay on top of the latest apps because their friends have it too. I underestand how Snapchat is, like, the bestthing ever, for some people and they couldn't, like, live without it, y'know?
In all honesty, the apps I've listed get their upgrades regularly and doesn't behave wildly different from their Android counterparts on my GF's phone.
Nikodemos
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Parity is not enough anymore. MS need something of their own in addition to that. Personally, I'd go with internal storage. Other manufacturers nickel and dime the shit out of buyers with each 8 GB of storage, like it's made out of unicorn bone dust. Have MS come out with a 64 GB budget phone, a 128 GB mid-range, and a whopping 256 GB flagship (and have that memory be of very-good-to-great speed, unlike most of the garbage which gets put into phones nowadays). Give Google/Apple a full-bore alpha strike. Incremental improvements don't make one noticed (though are obviously critical to user acceptance).
Tell that to Bank of America or Chase customers.
Not having an app is one thing...having the app and then it being discontinued/pulled because nobody uses Windows Phone is another.
xrnzaaas
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As a Windows Phone user I'm sad to read this. I'm loving the stability of the OS (with the exception of the shitty Internet Explorer) and how everything works smoothly even in the budget models. Oh, and I'm not interested in having 100 additional apps so that's not an important factor for me.
JimiNutz
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The problem is that it's a big deal for the majority of people.
Whether you think those people are ill-informed or stupid doesn't really matter.
As a long time supporter of Windows Phone (have previously owned a Samsung Omnia 7 and Lumia 920 and now have a 530 for work) it makes me sad but that's just the way it is. Having used Android for a couple years now I couldn't go back and I didn't used to think it was a big deal either.
Dash_Riprock
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Its Zune all over again: great product, but too little, too late.
Banderdash
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They've got the money to keep playing though...
They could afford to subsidise the app developers, including taking a smaller cut than Apple or Android take on their stores.
They should make one, and only one, phone each year. Make it absolutely top of the line.
Apple only releases 2 phones a year, and whilst they sold less last year than previously, they're still doing pretty damn well.
It's still the best mobile OS.
Make the handset best in class, eat the cost of app development.
They could afford to subsidise the app developers, including taking a smaller cut than Apple or Android take on their stores.
They should make one, and only one, phone each year. Make it absolutely top of the line.
Apple only releases 2 phones a year, and whilst they sold less last year than previously, they're still doing pretty damn well.
It's still the best mobile OS.
Make the handset best in class, eat the cost of app development.
KarneeKarnay
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I liked the OS. The problem I have is that developing app's for it is a huge pain. Windows should have had better documentation and a better IDE for app development. People would have picked it up and ran with it.
Instead MS had to push for it, hoping that the developers would jump ship and focus it.
Instead MS had to push for it, hoping that the developers would jump ship and focus it.
It's been less than a month since I dropped Windows Phone and got an Android device.
It's a whole different world. The OS itself might be comparable, but the app quality and diversity is night and day. There are so many important apps that are still missing on the Windows Phone app store, and those that are there are still years behind their iOS and Android counterparts.
I'm never going back.
It's a whole different world. The OS itself might be comparable, but the app quality and diversity is night and day. There are so many important apps that are still missing on the Windows Phone app store, and those that are there are still years behind their iOS and Android counterparts.
I'm never going back.
It really is. I much prefer the Windows metro interface over ios and android, but the complete lack of app support keeps me from making the jump.
If Microsoft made a realistic long term plan and a concerted effort to create an app ecosystem, I'd be all over a windows phone.
GHG
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If you don't care about apps it's the best phone OS by a mile.
I've been on Windows phones since the Lumia 920 and just got a 950. I was previously on Android but the camera and business functionality is night and day. I'm quite a simple man when it comes to phones though. All I need is emails, documents, music, maps, and the camera so it suits me down to the ground.
I've been on Windows phones since the Lumia 920 and just got a 950. I was previously on Android but the camera and business functionality is night and day. I'm quite a simple man when it comes to phones though. All I need is emails, documents, music, maps, and the camera so it suits me down to the ground.
That's a really bad idea. Windows Phone outsells the iPhone in several contries like India and Vietnam, and that's because they sell low-end models with a stable OS.
JimiNutz
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They should definitely focus on low end phones as they seem to have had more success in that market. Then just launch one 'premium' Surface Phone a year, maybe to coincide with the release of their new Surface model for that year.
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