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The War Over Iggy Azalea: ESPN Anchor Claims the Femcee Is ‘Trying to Kill Hip Hop'

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is she popgaf or hiphip gaf?

either way, it's getting to be a bit much. At least wrestling gaf makes up for their spamming with terrific gifs

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she is very much popgaf.

I mean its fairly obvious iggy azalea has made it this far because of her skin but it is unfair for her to compare herself to eminem. Eminem at least came from a very real place in Detroit where he came up in the battle rap scene and has a clear respect for the music. Whereas Iggy Azaelea makes her popraps, brands it rap music, and has no clear respect for the artform and whenever she's critiqued for it she uses her white priviledge as a defense mechanism. Im not saying she shouldnt rap because she's white or because she's not from the hood, im saying her music should reflect her experiences rather than portray a caricature. She only came into the rap world because of TI, without that she'd just be another pop artist


ESPN is dumb though
I dont even like eminem
shes still pretty hot
 

enigmatic_alex44

Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Like, I could understand people arguing in favor of her at least artistically if The New Classic was good but it was just trash. Igor simply doesn't have what it takes to make it on her own without a catchy pop hook provided by a DIFFERENT artist. Black Widow without Oral's hook? Fancy without Charli's hook? Yikes.

The New Classic wasn't even in the top ten albums of 2014.

Broke With Expensive Taste >>>>>>>> The New Classic
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Oh and The Pinkprint >>>>>>>>> The New Classic while I'm at it.
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Nicki remains the Queen of Rap.
 

Fjordson

Member
It's possible to like her music and still take issue with a lot of what she does and says.
I don't like her music. Don't really have any sort of opinion on her. Just a bit confused by the amount of attention she specifically gets. Some of the shit I've read on other forums, twitter, etc. is mind boggling.

Something about her that makes people lose their mind I guess.
 
How the fuck can someone just kill hip hop? People thinking it being as big as it is was some kind of accident. Reminds me of that Chris Rock joke where he says he keeps a back pack next to the front door of his big ass mansion for when the real white owners get back.

Calm down
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I figured out Azealia Banks and Iggy Azalea were different people like five minutes ago because I accidentally entered this thread.
 
Like, I could understand people arguing in favor of her at least artistically if The New Classic was good but it was just trash. Igor simply doesn't have what it takes to make it on her own without a catchy pop hook provided by a DIFFERENT artist. Black Widow without Oral's hook? Fancy without Charli's hook? Yikes.

The New Classic wasn't even in the top ten albums of 2014.

Broke With Expensive Taste >>>>>>>> The New Classic
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Oh and The Pinkprint >>>>>>>>> The New Classic while I'm at it.
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Nicki remains the Queen of Rap.
remember when threads were filled with this

it must be weird to be the last person holding this much of a grudge against iggy azalea
 
Don't really have an issue with what he said. It's not like he went on a rant about her. It was more of an off-hand comment trying to be funny. This isn't like Olbermann (mistakenly) calling a charity pitiful.
 

Azalean

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Like, I could understand people arguing in favor of her at least artistically if The New Classic was good but it was just trash. Igor simply doesn't have what it takes to make it on her own without a catchy pop hook provided by a DIFFERENT artist. Black Widow without Oral's hook? Fancy without Charli's hook? Yikes.

The New Classic wasn't even in the top ten albums of 2014.

Broke With Expensive Taste >>>>>>>> The New Classic
NKq0BiQ.gif


Oh and The Pinkprint >>>>>>>>> The New Classic while I'm at it.
NKq0BiQ.gif


Nicki remains the Queen of Rap.

Too many lies detected. Queen Iggy could easily carry those songs by herself, but she is gracious enough to allow those artists on the tracks to give them some exposure. Charli and Rita wouldn't even be talked about right now if they weren't on those tracks.

And comparing Azealia Stanks to the Queen? Let's not. The only reason her ass is even relevant right now is because she kept Iggy's name in her mouth.

And for Nicki, the "artist" who made this track? Iggy's farts probably sounds better than that shit.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
Too many lies detected. Queen Iggy could easily carry those songs by herself, but she is gracious enough to allow those artists on the tracks to give them some exposure. Charli and Rita wouldn't even be talked about right now if they weren't on those tracks.

And comparing Azealia Stanks to the Queen? Let's not. The only reason her ass is even relevant right now is because she kept Iggy's name in her mouth.

And for Nicki, the "artist" who made this track? Iggy's farts probably sounds better than that shit.

Azealia Banks album is more enjoyable overall and there is no way to cut that as there are no receipts from the community or the critics saying otherwise. Iggy singles after Black Widow didnt do so hot and it seems that after Trouble she might be a thing of the past.
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You wanna pick on Nicki Minaj for one track? Why not compare both albums and see how garbage The New BASIC is.
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overcast

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Hit me with your best contemporary hip hop. Educate me.
Naw, I'm good. It's not necessary because if you took the time or care to search for 5 minutes you'll find a great modern rap album. Whether it be through the GAF-Hop thread, the AOTY awards, reviewers, soundcloud, bandcamp, etc. It's not really difficult.
This post assumes that I don't listen to current hip-hop which is false....
If you did you wouldn't call it shit, plenty of great music.
 
QFT:

Here's something to think about...

What if I went into a mall wearing a marine's uniform, badges and everything. All the stores are giving me discounts and then afterwards I go into a bar and I'm getting free drinks and people start giving me nods of respect and then I start telling people about how I believe in fighting for my country and war is some serious stuff and how real it is over in Iraq............but then someone asks me how long I've been a marine for and I say "oh I'm not a marine, I just like rocking the uniform and acting like a marine."

What's wrong here is that I took an identity and a perspective that had to be earned and stole it to benefit from it.

This is what iggy is doing. She isn't a black girl from the south who has grown up in the culture. She's a white girl from australia, who stole an identity for profit.

Most rapper's music are just extensions of themselves. For the most part, they might not be gangstas but they atleast grew up around the shit. They stay authentic and talk about their identity, they just turn it up a little bit for the audience.

Eminem is a poor white boy from Detroit with a fucked up childhood, and that's what he raps about.
Mac Miller is a kid from Pittsburgh who likes weed and bitches, and that's what he raps about.
Macklemore is a suburban clown from Seattle and that's what he raps about.
None of them drastically change their accent.

Iggy is a white girl from australia but she doesn't rap about that. She raps about American culture, specifically black American culture and uses a black accent from the south.

The bitch came over here, stole an identity for profit and literally took millions and millions of dollars away from real artists who could've been given her spot in the music industry.

Think about that the next time you say some shit like "oh rappers just salty af because they not shinin like iggy"

Foh.
 

Frog-fu

Banned
The Iggy hate would be rightfully labelled racist if she were a black woman trying to break out in a white subculture. I'm tired of the weak, transparent attempts at framing this outrage as anything but racially fuelled. It is, and I say that as a black person that doesn't give a fuck about race or gender when it comes to art and artistic expression.

I don't care if her music sucks, whether she can rap or not or whether she's a phony because she puts on an accent. Since when has quality ever been requisite for mainstream success? Since when has there been such an outrage against people not sounding the way they speak when they perform? It's all bullshit, paper thin justifications for what is essentially puerile, incessant whining.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
QFT:

Here's something to think about...

What if I went into a mall wearing a marine's uniform, badges and everything. All the stores are giving me discounts and then afterwards I go into a bar and I'm getting free drinks and people start giving me nods of respect and then I start telling people about how I believe in fighting for my country and war is some serious stuff and how real it is over in Iraq............but then someone asks me how long I've been a marine for and I say "oh I'm not a marine, I just like rocking the uniform and acting like a marine."

What's wrong here is that I took an identity and a perspective that had to be earned and stole it to benefit from it.

This is what iggy is doing. She isn't a black girl from the south who has grown up in the culture. She's a white girl from australia, who stole an identity for profit.

Most rapper's music are just extensions of themselves. For the most part, they might not be gangstas but they atleast grew up around the shit. They stay authentic and talk about their identity, they just turn it up a little bit for the audience.

Eminem is a poor white boy from Detroit with a fucked up childhood, and that's what he raps about.
Mac Miller is a kid from Pittsburgh who likes weed and bitches, and that's what he raps about.
Macklemore is a suburban clown from Seattle and that's what he raps about.
None of them drastically change their accent.

Iggy is a white girl from australia but she doesn't rap about that. She raps about American culture, specifically black American culture and uses a black accent from the south.

The bitch came over here, stole an identity for profit and literally took millions and millions of dollars away from real artists who could've been given her spot in the music industry.

Think about that the next time you say some shit like "oh rappers just salty af because they not shinin like iggy"

Foh.

Let them know.
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ArcLyte

Member
All I know about Iggy Azalea is that she has that one song with Ellie Goulding, Heavy Crown, that would be an amazing song with all of Iggys parts removed.
 

xenist

Member
The Iggy hate would be rightfully labelled racist if she were a black woman trying to break out in a white subculture. I'm tired of the weak, transparent attempts at framing this outrage as anything but racially fuelled. It is, and I say that as a black person that doesn't give a fuck about race or gender when it comes to art and artistic expression.

I don't care if her music sucks, whether she can rap or not or whether she's a phony because she puts on an accent. Since when has quality ever been requisite for mainstream success? Since when has there been such an outrage against people not sounding the way they speak when they perform? It's all bullshit, paper thin justifications for what is essentially puerile, incessant whining.

Are the comedians calling out Larry The Cable Guy racist too? He did exactly what she did and every stand up comic I've heard speak about him called him out on it. Racism is a specific thing and not some hand grenade we throw on an argument to make it stop. Not every argument that pertains to race is racist.

Disclaimer: I couldn't care less about this whole thing. But these arguments really bother me.
 

Frog-fu

Banned
Are the comedians calling out Larry The Cable Guy racist too? He did exactly what she did and every stand up comic I've heard speak about him called him out on it. Racism is a specific thing and not some hand grenade we throw on an argument to make it stop. Not every argument that pertains to race is racist.

Disclaimer: I couldn't care less about this whole thing. But these arguments really bother me.

I don't know who that is. I'm not calling racist to end all discussion and arguments I don't agree with. I'm simply calling it as it is.

If a black woman from the struggle tried to make it big in some posh institution and got lampooned for trying to act and sound like posh people and her ghetto background kept coming up in order to ridicule her, that would all qualify as racist.

Yet the inverse doesn't? I'm not a fan of presuming what kind of lives people have led when I know so little about them aside from where they came from. That shit shouldn't even be relevant. If people dig it, they dig it. It doesn't have to make sense to you, you don't have to like it, nor do you have to explain why you like or dislike something, but if your most common arguments boil down to race, odds are you're a racist.
 
Iggy didn't take millions of dollars from anyone. The same broke, irrelevant female rappers today would still be broke and irrelevant if Iggy didn't exist. Real talk.

I don't care about the accent. There's a big ass list of British artists having different accents while singing, I can't catch feelings over that, nor do I think she "sounds black." She sounds like a fucking clown. If I have a problem with her voice it's that it's horrible. It sounds bad on records and sounds absolutely ludicrous live. That mixed with her inability to rap just makes her sound stupid, especially on tracks that aren't over produced.

Cultural appropriation as a concept has been fucked up by people using it incorrectly IMO. I don't care that Iggy is white. One of my many problems is that she has no identity. Since the very beginning, rap has been used by artists to tell people about their home. Brooklyn rappers had a style, Queens rappers had a (superior) style, etc. Then other states and regions chimed in. Then different countries, hence grime from the UK. Iggy has no musical connection to where she's from. I get that she has lived in the US for years but still, it's weird that she has nothing to say about her culture.

Australia has a dope music scene too, including some really good soul and r&b stuff.
 
The Iggy hate would be rightfully labelled racist if she were a black woman trying to break out in a white subculture. I'm tired of the weak, transparent attempts at framing this outrage as anything but racially fuelled. It is, and I say that as a black person that doesn't give a fuck about race or gender when it comes to art and artistic expression.

I don't care if her music sucks, whether she can rap or not or whether she's a phony because she puts on an accent. Since when has quality ever been requisite for mainstream success? Since when has there been such an outrage against people not sounding the way they speak when they perform? It's all bullshit, paper thin justifications for what is essentially puerile, incessant whining.
Let this serve as a reminder that being black does not mean you inherently have an informed or valuable opinion on subjects pertaining to race, racism and appropriation. Have a seat. There are some books you need to spend some time in, good sir.
 

Frog-fu

Banned
Let this serve as a reminder that being black does not mean you inherently have an informed or valuable opinion on subjects pertaining to race, racism and appropriation. Have a seat. There are some books you need to spend some time in, good sir.

I'm sure you've read some really great tumblr pages on all of those but I'd consider myself more educated than the average person that just likes to bitch about white artists making it big in genres black people "own."
 
I hope we're all supporting the artists we do like.

Baffled at the hatred she's getting to be frank.

And people talk about being real, that rules out the majority of rap surely. Drake I'm looking at you son.
 

Ayt

Banned
Popular rap music lost all authenticity for me a long time ago so a white girl from Australia who raps like she's a black girl from Atlanta being a relatively big star seems perfectly appropriate.

It reminds me a bit of 80's hair metal in how overtly fake it is.
 
Can someone tell me why Tip isn't getting any flak here? They're going for iggy yet many seem to forget that he's the one putting her in those lanes.
 

Ikael

Member
Oh God, yet another "cultural appropiation" accusation. Inautenthic? It's commercial music, for crap's shake, of course it is inautenthic, it is the result of a goddamn marketing focus group, stripping off every bit of autenthicity for the shake of better sales it's the entire point of it.
 
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