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The War Over Iggy Azalea: ESPN Anchor Claims the Femcee Is ‘Trying to Kill Hip Hop'

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Angelus Errare said:
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Charli's inability to make herself relevant doesn't change the fact her hook made Iggy relevant. Again listen to the version without Charli and say with a straight face that song would have still blown up.

You'd be lying to yourself.
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That's not what I'm saying breh. If you took that beat, or any DJ Mustard beat really, you'd be saying it's generic as fuck. Yet we still have Mustard making hits, flooding clubs and the radio. It's about how all these elements comes together to form the song as a whole.
 
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PhoenixDark said:
Couldn't this be said of a near majority of all mainstream radio rap? Yet you rarely see any criticism of the sheer ignorance of shit like I'm In Love With The Coco. There's a constant stream of negative stereotypes on the radio...and it's not coming from Iggy.

I think she's trash, I think her success is laughable/pathetic, etc etc etc...but it continues to amaze me that so many people aren't offended by shit until white people half do it.
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i agree with this. i like riff raff, i like migos they're not doing anything far removed from what iggy is.

it's just their music is arguably much better than anything azalea's put out. she don't even got good hooks which is the bread and butter of poprap, she needs artists to supply em.
 
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jett

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Due to all the exposure she's been getting on the OT lately, I'm listening to some of her music for the first time.

What is this shit.
 
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Angelus Errare

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Sho_Nuff82 said:
Wow, it's like, I know it's the same song, but it has a totally different vibe. Not one of my friends would have jumped on this song if not for the catchy hook.
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In the end, it's always about the hook. People are really crazy to think Charli isn't the principle reason Fancy blew up. As I said before if Charli wasn't the principle reason then Iggy would have blown up a long time ago when she dropped her first mixtape since her style hasn't changed for shit since then. Still had the same Diplo/Electronic-esque beats with the same tired ass flow with the struggle accent. Iggy can't make a hit, we have what? 3 mixtapes proving this. Her two biggest singles are Black Widow and Fancy and they ain't big because of her lyrical abilities (or lack thereof).

I'll requote myself from the other thread.

Angelus Errare said:
Exactly. It's how EVERY artist blows up. No one cares about cadence or tone or else Megan Trainor's ass would still be washing dishes wherever the fuck she's from. Think of any artist out right now and think of their very first single. You're going to think of the hook/chorus first.

What determines your success in this industry is your ability to craft a hook that gets spins and gets parents/teens singing it nonstop.

Taylor Swift's breakout single? Shit that damn song had the most macho of dudes singing it in the gym between protein shake breaks because it was catchy as all the fucks. I don't even know the words to that song, but I can tell you that she wears short skirts and Taylor wears T-shirts, why can't you see that apparently you belong to her.

PSY? Shit wasn't even in English! But that hook, all everyone knew was "oppan gangnam style" then do the little jig.

Every time you hear "Fancy" sampled in a commercial of some sort do you hear Iggy's rapping or Charlie singing the hook? Rhetorical, we all know the answer. Iggy could rap like Benzino or Shawty Lo on a track but as long as she has a nice hook she'd be in the same position.

Remember when Eminem blew up with his first single? Everyone and their mom was singing the hook. Since that time Eminem has made songs about the very process of being forced to white songs with a catchy hook and how shitty it is if you want to be popular have a hit.

The reason hundreds and hundreds of rappers don't make it is because they can't craft a hook to save their lives. Think of some of the worst rappers who are popular right now and tell me why. Bobby Shmurda sounds like hundreds of other NY rappers but the reason he blew up and not them is because of the beat of his song, his little jig that went with it and the hook.

Why do you guys think Drake is killing the game right now? Dude has changed his cadence and tone so damn much over the years but one thing has remained constant. His ability to craft a song with an infectious hook. I mean damn near every song he makes gets turned into a Twitter hashtag ffs.

Snow will never blow up because she can't craft a hook that can be used as a big single.
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PhoenixDark said:
Couldn't this be said of a near majority of all mainstream radio rap? Yet you rarely see any criticism of the sheer ignorance of shit like I'm In Love With The Coco. There's a constant stream of negative stereotypes on the radio...and it's not coming from Iggy.

I think she's trash, I think her success is laughable/pathetic, etc etc etc...but it continues to amaze me that so many people aren't offended by shit until white people half do it.
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I agree, with your post. I'm one of the few I know that can't stand the existence of a song like I'm in love with the Coco.
 
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Overreaction, yet a hilarious low blow by the ESPN dude imo. Iggy sucks. We know that. She won't change hip-hop, the genre is as good as ever for me. Honestly feel like she's more relevant in the media through the constant bashing than anything. She's dumb as hell and is offensive, she also won't be relevant for very long.
LilWayneSuckz said:
How exactly is she trying to kill hip-hop? Hip-hop has been on the decline for years.
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Lmao. Go away, continue to deprive yourself of great music. Stay stuck in the 90's with your garbage opinion my dude.
 
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Freedom = $1.05

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is she popgaf or hiphop gaf?

either way, it's getting to be a bit much. At least wrestling gaf makes up for their spamming with terrific gifs
 
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Angelus Errare

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I will say ESPN dude is a tool though, cause if Nick Young or any athlete said anything mean about any of these anchors, they'd be fined and twitter would be on some racist shit.
 
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As far as I know Iggy didn't sell well. Is that correct?

What exactly is she killing or ruining? Female rappers have an extremely tough mountain climb due to rap's own stupid view of the proper image of a rapper and females never really fitting it.

Hell I'll admit no matter how talented the rapper, a female MC just never does it for me. Part of the problem I guess but I don't get the big fuss about Iggy. She most likely will be a flash in pan one-two hit wonder female rapper. Not the first or last. Only thing different about her is that she is white so somehow she is mocking, stealing, or abusing the system.

Not really she struggled like most all artists, got that one big hit, and made it to the mainstream stage. Doesn't hurt that she has a pretty face and great body but then again 99% of female artists across all genre's have to be model pretty/sexy to even make it to mainstream. So yes does it help that she is white and pretty? Of course but it also helped Nicki, Rhianna, and or Beyonce that they are goddamn beautiful and dripping with sex appeal.

Angelus Errare hit it on the head a few posts up. More than anything Iggy is the beneficiary of a great beat and hook. Could have been any other female rapper on the verses and it would have blown up. Her subsequent singles haven't had the same success and unless she finds another great beat/catchy hook combo her talent/writing/rapping doesn't have enough weight to carry her career.

Eminem would have been the same but beyond the catchy first poppy single he had the ability to actually rap and write songs so it just created a mainstream monster*

*feat Rhi Rhi
 
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PhoenixDark said:
Couldn't this be said of a near majority of all mainstream radio rap? Yet you rarely see any criticism of the sheer ignorance of shit like I'm In Love With The Coco. There's a constant stream of negative stereotypes on the radio...and it's not coming from Iggy.

I think she's trash, I think her success is laughable/pathetic, etc etc etc...but it continues to amaze me that so many people aren't offended by shit until white people half do it.
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Yeah... Coco or All Gold Everything...
 
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Killing? No. She's just part of the current shit-meta.

We'll never have another Illmatic or Black Star, which were the epitome of hip hop IMO. Others will disagree with me based on what their idealistic view of the genre is, but we'll hopefully always have "good" rappers who practice a purer form of the art than whatever shit is getting the most plays on the radio.
 
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btw, here's Nick Young's response (condensing five tweets)

Nick Young ✔ @NickSwagyPYoung
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Its cool to talk about me all day any day I find with that, I can take a joke .. That what I do joke, but I didn't see the point of that |
Since these Sports Channels want to like they BET we shall see |
@RoFloESPN so off the fact you that was cool to say, don’t sit right with me so we got a problem |
@RoFloESPN you job is to talk about sports not what me and my chick got going on |
@RoFloESPN I’m pretty sure we going to run into each other soon


And

Robert Flores, having no chill, decided to bomb again last night:

"If you look at his numbers, there is a 70% chance that—if he takes a shot at me—he's going to miss. I'm just looking at the numbers, so I'm good. "



But yeah, that's still some sucka shit from Flores.
 
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Ah. The haters can't keep Queen Iggy of their minds. Whether they know it or not, she's still winning.

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Indrid Cold1

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I love the bitter, jealous salt surrounding this girl and what she does for a living. It's as hilarious as it is embarrassing.
 
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It is highly entertaining how mad people get at this girl for being succesful.

Is she a great rapper? Probably not. Was Fancy catchy as all fuck? Sure was.
 
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Dennis said:
It is highly entertaining how mad people get at this girl for being succesful.

Is she a great rapper? Probably not. Was Fancy catchy as all fuck? Sure was.
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Let 'em know. *Disagree with the not being a great rapper part though.
 
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PhoenixDark said:
Couldn't this be said of a near majority of all mainstream radio rap? Yet you rarely see any criticism of the sheer ignorance of shit like I'm In Love With The Coco. There's a constant stream of negative stereotypes on the radio...and it's not coming from Iggy.

I think she's trash, I think her success is laughable/pathetic, etc etc etc...but it continues to amaze me that so many people aren't offended by shit until white people half do it.
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Seriously. I continue to be completely baffled by the passion towards Iggy, positive or negative.
 
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Fjordson said:
Seriously. I continue to be completely baffled by the passion towards Iggy, positive or negative.
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I mean, outside of the usual "X pop star sucks" line of criticism, the article outlines issues with her caricature/appropriation of blackness. It's possible to like her music and still take issue with a lot of what she does and says.
 
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