The Wii U Speculation Thread V: The Final Frontier

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wsippel said:
Wii was, 3DS far less so and Wii U isn't. At all. It's based on 2009 technology that was further modified until mid/ late 2011. The 360 hardware was just as "dated" when it released in 2005.
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I consider anything worse than my beautiful PC dated :P.
 
GTA V better be that game that has these guys so positive on software

BY2K said:
Can't believe I actually have to mark it.

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COLD BLOODED man

the body is still warm :(

its really not going to be the same without BP around at E3 and WiiU launch
 
TriGen said:
Exactly. Consoles will always be "dated" tech, and Nintendo consoles will be a little bit more dated then the others, no surprise.
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Yep!

*hug my PC*
*blow kiss at my Wii*
"You guys are the best of both worlds!"

I consider the {Nintendo console + PC} formula to be the oldest and most reliable "core" gamer's combo. The best of console gaming + the best of moddable upper-end gaming. :)
 
Maxrunner said:
why was he banned again? i dont see anything that shocking in that thread.
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I don't see anything bad in that thread. If anything clovingsteams posts were pretty inflammatory and disingenious. However, I think bps ban was more of an accumulation of bad posts than just one bad post. It was his erratic behavior. In general that got him banned and it likely would've happened sooner or later anyway.
 
Is it bad that I would trust a lot of people in this thread over any of the people in Bonus Round, especially in regards to Nintendo? Is that absurd? :p
 
kittens said:
Also: You really think Bishoptl is gonna get banned?
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That bingo card is not just for bans. And Bishoptl is there because HE will ban a LOT of people at E3.

B1: Third-Party AAA Title Announced
B2: Blown Away
B3: Mario Paper 3DS
B4: Banned
B5: Referring to new console as "New Sexy"

I1: FIGS IN HIS RECTUM
I2: Not normal
I3: Being cranky
I4: Gets a record deal
I5: Won't post

N1: Banned
N2: FIGS IN HIS RECTUM TOO!
N3: Free Space
N4: Goes insane
N5: Bragging about F-Zero Wii U being revealed

G1: Is pretentious
G2: Makes absurd joke
G3: Won't attack GAFers when butthurt
G4: Record number of E3 related bans
G5: Redeemed

O1: Makes more awesome gifs
O2: Posting irritating comments and 1up people's joke
O3: Redeemed
O4: Cry because of Kirby Wii U
O5: Huge rant if Star Fox and F-Zero = No show
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Pyrokai said:
Is it bad that I would trust a lot of people in this thread over any of the people in Bonus Round, especially in regards to Nintendo? Is that absurd? :p
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No. In a forum people have nothing to really gain from not giving their honest opinion, people like Pachter need to have agendas to keep making money, so it makes sense you would trust faceless posters more.
 
Prediction

Super Mario Bros. Wii U

- You can use the 'next gen' version of the Mii as a playable character

- You can now take a photo of your face using the U Pad and place it on the new Mii.

-
 
Smiles and Cries said:
do you update every 6 months or every major game release?
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I built it a couple of years ago, and only upgraded one thing since: another 4GB of RAM to make a total of 8GB, and it only cost me ~AU$50. It's a nice PC but, even at the time of purchase, far from the absolute top of the line hardware.

I can run Crysis 2 maxed out at 1920x1080, DX11 patch cranked, with the HD texture pack (and additional texture mods of higher quality), with an average of ~45fps. It has done me well, and will do so into next generation as well.
 
I loved when Pachter said "spin" as if that was an answer to the question.

Anyway, the focus should never be solely on hardware capabilities - that's where avid fanboys and overzealous analysts live and die. It has always been software which makes or breaks consoles and handhelds. If the hardware is so inept that it can't handle running popular engines, then fine - in that case hardware matters (as with Wii). But that's simply not going to be the case with Wii U. UE4 and other advanced engines will be scalable, despite what the hype says. We are getting past the point where the platforms are too incompatible with each other. We are also already past the point where exclusives are a viable business model for 3rd parties.
 
How weird is it that nobody had really anything bad to say about the Wii U (probably because they know as much as we do, that is absolutely nothing.)

Really the only negative thing to come out of it was Pachter's 3DS comment.
 
BY2K said:
How weird is it that nobody had really anything bad to say about the Wii U (probably because they know as much as we do, that is absolutely nothing.)
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They do seem to know a decent amount about upcoming games. And it actually sounds positive.
 
schuelma said:
Very arrogant segment there by the Pach man. Essentially said "those numbers do not count because there is literally no way they can continue"
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I agree he was a little on the arrogant side, but then again, it is GTTV -- arrogant statements always come out of these shows.

But that doesn't mean there wasn't some truth to his words - the casual audience that bought the DS in droves around the time the lite came out, has seemed to move on to the smart phone/pad market. So Nintendo may be winning ground with the core gamers, those who frequent sites like NeoGaf or IGN and love the news they see on the 3DS on a regular basis...but in the larger scheme of things (that is to say, in the real world) the 3DS is not selling to the larger numbers (causal audience) who would pick up the platform.

I personally hope the 3DS does well because I would love for a true "PS2-SNES" like software environment from a handheld, which 3DS seems to be the most poised to do given it also has Nintendo first party support, and is the first Nintendo handheld to deliver modern era console quality game experiences.

That said, I do not doubt it will do well, but it likely won't do as well as the original DS did simply because that casual market has moved to other devices.

To me, this is why Oni-Training is going to be a huge demonstrator in how well the 3DS's expanded sales future is. No casual gamer, or rather very very few, would purchase a $170 system plus $20-40 Brain Training 3, when they have their old DS lying around plus Brain Training 2 or can get new software experiences/similar software experience that are just as legitimately targeted towards a casual audience on the Android or Apple App stores.

If Oni-Training can prove to be the type of game that can bring that crowd in, then that is exceptional news for Nintendo.

But if it can't, then the 3DS may likely be confined to a core-only space.

That would be great news for GAF, and hardcore gamers alike sure.


But for Nintendo that would be tough news indeed. It means less $$$ for them, and at the end of the day they are a business that needs to make money.
 
BY2K said:
How weird is it that nobody had really anything bad to say about the Wii U (probably because they know as much as we do, that is absolutely nothing.)

Really the only negative thing to come out of it was Pachter's 3DS comment.
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Very surprised. I figured their would be a lot of negatives, at least until Nintendo showed some first-party software at E3.
 
These guys mentioned first party launch games or that they, along with third party, are good.

Realistically, how many games first party that will be at the show do they know about???
 
BY2K said:
How weird is it that nobody had really anything bad to say about the Wii U (probably because they know as much as we do, that is absolutely nothing.)

Really the only negative thing to come out of it was Pachter's 3DS comment.
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I think I know why, there is a collective threat looming over console gaming (phone/tablet/social)as a whole. It brings console gamers together.
 
wsippel said:
It's more modern than your beautiful PC, even if it's less powerful. The word "dated" makes no sense.
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Maybe, but without knowing the intricacies of the guts, I won't believe this, and am sure my GTX 570 will outclass in performance and feature-sets anything the Wii U ever does.
 
BY2K said:
How weird is it that nobody had really anything bad to say about the Wii U (probably because they know as much as we do, that is absolutely nothing.)

Really the only negative thing to come out of it was Pachter's 3DS comment.
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I'd say we know more than the entire panel besides Satterfield. And even there we probably know more hardware details.
 
HylianTom said:
Yep!

*hug my PC*
*blow kiss at my Wii*
"You guys are the best of both worlds!"

I consider the {Nintendo console + PC} formula to be the oldest and most reliable "core" gamer's combo. The best of console gaming + the best of moddable upper-end gaming. :)
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I agree about this. Nintendo + PC FTW at the beginning of the generation.

I could get another console when the line-up for the downloadable games will be mature.
 
TheGreatMightyPoo said:
These guys mentioned first party launch games or that they, along with third party, are good.

Realistically, how many games first party that will be at the show do they know about???
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Well... maybe two? I suppose a guy like Satterfield could have received some info from devs who saw Nintendo software during events like GDC '12.
 
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