Oh man... makes me think of Capcom's ultimate troll to Nintendo fans...
Giving them a proper port of the original Dead Rising as a launch title.
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Oh man... makes me think of Capcom's ultimate troll to Nintendo fans...
Giving them a proper port of the original Dead Rising as a launch title.
GameplayWhore
Member
Which social features they have and how easy it is to use and (to an extent) how tightly integrated it is with gaming is a likely differentiator.
phosphor112
Banned
I honestly don't see it selling much. It'll sell to the Nintendo fans (like always) but I have to agree with Pachter for once. All the "casuals" I know don't want next gen consoles. A friend of the family just got their kid Skylanders, a lot of people have iPads or Kindle Fires... I just dont see that "blue ocean" market grabbing a Wii U... Core markets? The online isn't established like XBL and PSN. People don't have their XLBA or PSN games, and a lot of people are comfortable playing their COD games on a "normal" controller.
I just see this as an uphill battle for Nintendo.
That makes sense, I'm guessing that this generation (PS360) is just going to look like a stepping stone to the next one, besides the Wii due to the success had with it's different control style. That's not to say this generation didn't have amazing games or whatever, but rather that the feature side wasn't fully fleshed out and the systems weren't implemented yet to make it a all in one media box or whatever, as it will be in the next generation.
Hmm, never knew 3rd parties actually use it as an engine, I just assumed it was there effectively as sample code (ie "here's how to implement X, Y or Z"). Interesting.
MisterHero
Super Member
Frank West is the best so that's not a bad thing.
However, not making SD text modes for any of their games would suck
Oh wait, we have the tablet zapper right? I almost wanted to post about the tablets inability to support railshooters, but then I thought of the Wii U zapper shown last year. So yeah... if the Wii U receives an "exclusive" RE game it will be a railshooter of some sort.
Or in my twisted dreamworld, Resident Evil 2 REborn would be made.
Or in my twisted dreamworld, Resident Evil 2 REborn would be made.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Just like an RE exclusive Wii game (that wasn't a rail-shooter) was guaranteed after RE4: Wii Edition sold well over a million copies.
Even if it does get RE6 along with an exclusive RE, will that really put it into a better third-party position then, say...... the GCN?
Forsaken82
Member
$500 - $600 just like the PS3 this gen. Only expect Microsoft's Subsidizing concept to continue into the next gen. likely $199 + 2 year contract(possible $20 a month) to make it seem more attractive.
A man can dream.
What do you mean? They couldn't bring it over to the Wii for numerous reasons, and there's no reason to bring it over to the Wii U.
Yeah, I know the SDK isn't an engine, but I didnt know what Nintendo had for an engine for developers. But now I know. So what team is behind NintendoWare?
If it means anything, RE5 just isn't worth playing. RE6 seems to be heading in the same direction except for Leon's part unfortunately.
MisterHero
Super Member
Maybe the real reason that 6 isn't coming is because Nintendo slapped the crap out of Capcom over DLC abuse
I wish
Unfortunately, Nintendo hasn't even bothered to put it on the virtual console. That's how dead the franchise is. Earthbound, may you rest in peace.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Resident Evil 6 looks great. I say the only reason that hasn't been announced for Wii U is because Japanese developers are better at keeping their fucking mouths shut when Nintendo tells them to.
We'll see.
We'll see.
I can agree with this. RE 5 wasn't worth playing at all. It was just too action-y for it's own good. I know pas RE games have had action, but this was boring, unexciting action, that dissolved any tension that the older games had. I think RE 4 still had some of this tension left, but RE 5 just didn't.
Honestly, for you Wii only people out there that are curious, you didn't miss shit.
It's at 1.9 million copies sold actually.
Eh, as a Resident Evil fan myself I can say that Wii (U) missing out on RE 5 isn't that big of a deal. It's not a bad game, but the only thing which sucks is that it's the only mainline RE missing on a Nintendo console.
Honestly, if you have a 3DS Revelations is the superior game.
That's due to licensing issues though. A song in the game sounds like some licensed song I guess.
I was honestly excited about RE 5 when it was announced. However, I was secretly happy that most people considered it a disappointment.
I actually did not know that. Still, Nintendo could have found a way around it. I mean, Capcom jumped through hoops to localize Tatsunoko vs. Capcom and I'm sure other developers have managed to find a solution to deal with othere licensing issues for other games as well. Of course, it doesn't always work out like how the original GoldenEye 007 couldn't come to XBLA and the Virtual Console.
Hot Coldman
Banned
They straight up stole bars from "Won't Get Fooled Again". Fucking dumbasses.
sup
Amazing.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
At this point in time it's an uphill battle for all three of them. Gaming can be done on everything short of a toaster. This diminishes the necessity of consoles. I don't see XBL or PSN being big enough pulls for this to change. As I said earlier I expect significant market contraction next-gen.
I'll be shocked if any of the three get over the 40 million unit threshold in America. Japan is likely to look worse than it did this gen.
Yeah, and is Mother 1 on the Japanese VC? I doubt Nintendo would ever bring it over here since it was never an official release.
GameplayWhore
Member
This is in part why they are allegedly introducing non-gaming features, like videochat, rumoured PPV VoD, universal remote control, and so on. We still have a very fuzzy picture of what their strategy is.
"Blue ocean" just means "everybody not interested in the current market". Of course they're not interested in getting a Wii U right now -- that's the definition of their group. The whole idea is of introducing (or reintroducing in a novel manner) features which can attract individuals in the group. We won't be able to measure this in any coherent way until we see what the full feature set of the system is (and how marketable and/or easy to use the features are, as both of those aspects are critical).
DaSorcerer7
Member
@MRORANGE...legendary
You forgot Play Coins, too. There were definitely hints of the 3DS having some sort of structure from the ground up (kept hidden) for its game platform outside of the obvious, and with recent firmware updates and news, its slowly materializing into something much different than we initially expect it to be.
I hate this assertion. It makes GAF look like a bunch of Nintendo-hating folks. They have enough pressure from jerks of the cometition. And while I do agree that sometimes they needed a wake-up call from fans, a financial loss and lower-than-expected earnings would be more than enough for them to get off their asses and do something.
MisterHero
Super Member
It was just the beats man. You're allowed to reproduce a certain amount of notes but even the Sky Runner theme uses a bit more than the limit.
EarthBound does indeed reference a whole lot of songs though
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
How do you know the third-party situation is resolved? We basically know nothing about Next-Gen right now. We have no real details about Nintendo's online system, we can only guess how strong the system is, we don't know if it will support UE4, we only know of a handful of games, we really don't know who is on-board and who isn't, we have no idea how strong or even what the 720/Ps4 will be, and we don't even know if the Wii-U supports TWO U-pads.
Hasn't this generation taught us that NO ONE is guaranteed to win the next one?
MS and Sony could sell a console that is 5x more powerful than the current consoles for about $400. That's not impossible.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/xbox-360-pricing-revealed-299-and-399-models-due-at-launch-6131245
Microsoft sold Xbox 360 at $300 and $400 at North American launch in 2005. Was 360 not state of the art when it launched? And it was only $400 because of the harddrive included. Without the harddrive, the tech itself was not that expensive. When it launched, Xbox 360 was considered around 8-10x more powerful than ps2/gamecube/xbox 1.
Playstation 2 sold at $300 at launch and it was state of the art technology.
The only reason PS3 sold at $500-$600 is because of bluray and cell processor costs. Those 2 things fucked up Sony's entire future.
Technology, processors, and ram are going down in price every single year. This idea that MS and Sony can't get amazing tech without releasing a $500-$600 console is not very logical at all.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
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Genius!
So why is everyone saying "the next generation will be a repeat of the last in terms of tactics, only this time it won't work"?
Hot Coldman
Banned
Yeah I know there's a limit with how much you can do but the Sky Runner theme... it's so blatant! I don't mind homages like Mr Batty but there's some indefensible stuff in those games. I love MOTHER3, Earthbound is great too but it does annoy me a fair bit. Especially when the original music in those games is fantastic.
It's definitely not as annoying as Nintendo just changing the music and bringing them over though. Well, bringing Earthbound over. MOTHER3 ain't happening.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Uh oh..
Epic have revealed some high-res UE4 images.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/348153/unreal-engine-4-hi-res-screens-are-far-more-impressive/
Still a bit Meh if you ask me.
Epic have revealed some high-res UE4 images.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/348153/unreal-engine-4-hi-res-screens-are-far-more-impressive/
Still a bit Meh if you ask me.
Well not that anyone is surprised, but it seemed Acid Ghost was debunked or at least the latest rumors since.. the "concept" art is from a grad student's DA account or something. Can never understand the Swiss!
It's only a sign that developers don't have unlimited resources. Adding another SKU isn't something trivial, which is why most Wii U multiplats are being developed by a different team than the other versions. If Capcom doesn't have the resources to add another SKU, the only thing they can do is either outsource it, or do it later.
reelbigtink
Member
I can't read any comments on IGN anymore because of the insane console warriors. Why they all hate Nintendo and want them to fail so miserably is beyond me. You'll still get your new Battlefield games if Nintendo is around, guys. I promise.
phosphor112
Banned
Agreed. But the lack of "established" services makes me think Nintendo is going to have the biggest hill to climb.
And yeah, console gaming in Japan? Man... tough crowd over there.
Still don't think that's enough man. Video chat? Phones have that feature now. Netflix and all sorts of other streaming and on demand services are already available on the PS3 and 360 (netflix on Wii too... i know a lot of people who use the Wii exclusively for that).
Regarding the "Blue Ocean" market... they still aren't interested in the market, even the Wii which they've already purchased. My friend still plays his, cuz he's a dirty ass that pirates all of his shit. Who else does?... I know a WIDE variety of people... kids of friends... parents... all have a Wii, and what do they use it for? Netflix... either that or nothing at all. I honestly don't think anyone can look at the Wii U, even with new features and say "I will buy that." These are the same people that likely won't buy any other new console as well because they don't need to. Anyway. I'll catch up more on this thread later. All eyes are on Nintendo this year.
Not the generational leap some were expecting. Just looks like a high-end PC game. Also, the textures are pretty bad.
I'm sure this is all due to the art style, though.
TheCongressman1
Member
Looks impressive to me.
Man, people are really expecting quite a bit, it seems...
They're quite pretty, no doubt, but I'm not sure that they're what I'd call "$500-Pretty."
Twenty7KVN
Member
I'm still waiting for a nice hd video to judge.
I wonder what they call if for the WiiU
NintendoWare for the Cafe?
Also, about WiiU possessing special components for lighting. It takes me back to this rumor:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37774590&postcount=7104
It's cause they're "ruining REAL gaming with their waggle bullshit and outdated tech."
At least that's the nonsense I've seen.
MisterHero
Super Member
You think that would annoy you? It annoyed me to no end that they changed Pokey to Porky in Brawl, even if that was his JP name.
Feels not right, man.
I had to wait all day to post this, but here goes.
BurntPork and Anth0ny, SMFH.
Second, after all that hyping Epic did over UE4, I was expecting WAAAAAY better than this. It certainly does not make Samaritan look like crap. At all.
Third, Epic wants to burn this industry ablaze with those demands on hardware. There. Is. NO. Way. You can have Avatar-like graphics in the near future on console. To get that kind of rendering power it took to create Avatar in a console, nobody will buy them because the price will be ludicrous. And I don't think Sony wants to make another 600$ console.
BurntPork and Anth0ny, SMFH.
Second, after all that hyping Epic did over UE4, I was expecting WAAAAAY better than this. It certainly does not make Samaritan look like crap. At all.
Third, Epic wants to burn this industry ablaze with those demands on hardware. There. Is. NO. Way. You can have Avatar-like graphics in the near future on console. To get that kind of rendering power it took to create Avatar in a console, nobody will buy them because the price will be ludicrous. And I don't think Sony wants to make another 600$ console.
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