The Wii U Speculation Thread V: The Final Frontier

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Mass Effect Trilogy on Wii U, maybe?
Not that it would mean much either way...

Possibly at least ME2-3. I wonder what EA will have at Nintendo's E3 Conference. They were even talking on the stage last year so they better have something, right? Something exciting or surprising even.
 
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Possibly at least ME2-3. I wonder what EA will have at Nintendo's E3 Conference. They were even talking on the stage last year so they better have something, right? Something exciting or surprising even.

Battlefield: Bad Company 3 debuts at Nintendo's E3.
And is Mass Effect still tied under that exclusivity deal with Microsoft? I'm talking about the original game, of course :)
 
Saying as this is a speculative thread about WiiU lets get some good speculative chatter going, especially as it seems the thread has died when it resorts to speculating about the colour of suits that Reggie and Iwata will wear.

Lets be speculative for a second about the future of WiiU, not after launch but after the launch of the competition. What do you think the WiiU's market standpoint will be? Personally I would believe that it would be a similar tale to 3DS, slow to take off. How would Nintendo compete around launch periods?

Or am I just getting ahead of myself here?
 
Thunder Monkey's avatar always cracks me up.

No, Thunder Monkey, figs in my rectum.

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Anyway, anybody understands why Adam said Nintendo should just skip the 3DS completely and only talk about the Wii U on stage at E3 because otherwise it would be... confusing?
 
This is what i do, watch the whole show before visiting forums.

Good man!

i try to do it on forums for like 15 minutes then the thread starts going too fast and i give up.

Yeah I'm always there for the ramp-up. E3 on GAF for me is basically everything from the moment the first convention centre pictures come in, to the 5 minutes before the MS conf.

and snacks! Don't forget the snacks man! :D

Oh, true, true. I'm thinking popcorn this year.
 
Saying as this is a speculative thread about WiiU lets get some good speculative chatter going, especially as it seems the thread has died when it resorts to speculating about the colour of suits that Reggie and Iwata will wear.

Lets be speculative for a second about the future of WiiU, not after launch but after the launch of the competition. What do you think the WiiU's market standpoint will be? Personally I would believe that it would be a similar tale to 3DS, slow to take off. How would Nintendo compete around launch periods?

Or am I just getting ahead of myself here?

If Nintendo plays all of its cards right, and if the Next Xbox and Playstation systems really are at best just modest bumps over the current HD twins, then the Wii U might be in the same position that the PS2 was in. It would have a year long (presumably) headstart, a bigger install base, it would roughly be in the same ballpark as the other two systems, so it would be able to receive all the third party multiplats, even if they are heavily downgraded ala PS2 and most of its multiplats, and therefore, by virtue of sheer inertia, it might become the dominant console next generation, and the closest thing to PS2 we'll ever get in the console arena again.
 
I would love that, especially if they included all DLC and remastered the first one.

Better yet, a Bioware Classics Collection. KOTOR 1-2, Jade Empire, Mass effect 1-3, aaaaaand yeah not gonna happen.

Bioware didn't make KotOR II and Mass Effect 1 is never appearing on a non Microsoft console.
 
Morning guys! OK, I really HATE to be that guy again, but GPWHore (or anyone), can you please give me a summary of the last 10 (100ppp) pages? I come in this morning to work, decide to do a little catchup and WHAM, the thread has exploded!

I started trying to catch up when the thread was at page 171, now it's 174!


not my fault if i still can't create a thread :/
it's really a nightmare, 1 day before the day lol
Ideaman, I've said before, get someone else to make a thread if you want to get the info out.


EDIT: What happened to BP and Axis?!?!
 
FIFA 2013 will come for Wii U

Honestly I'm expecting this + other multiplatform titles. Maybe have Peter Moore talk about the unique stuff they can do now with the Wii U tablet.

What about the online stuff? What will Nintendo show on that front? There has been some talking that they got it right this time and I'm thinking maybe it's one of the key features they are talking at E3.
 
Anyway, anybody understands why Adam said Nintendo should just skip the 3DS completely and only talk about the Wii U on stage at E3 because otherwise it would be... confusing?
Perhaps "confusing" is a bad word to use, maybe it's that Nintendo has so much to show regarding Wii U that showing something for 3DS would be superfluous. Or maybe Wii U features certain functions that must be described in detail for the audience to understand, and such may cause the audience to set their focus on Wii U entirely; presenting new games or services for 3DS then could be quite disrupting (in a negative way). Who knows, maybe Adam just expressed his interest in a full blown Wii U extravaganza in a special way?
 
Honestly I'm expecting this + other multiplatform titles. Maybe have Peter Moore talk about the unique stuff they can do now with the Wii U tablet.

What about the online stuff? What will Nintendo show on that front? There has been some talking that they got it right this time and I'm thinking maybe it's one of the key features they are talking at E3.

Well since its announcement we haven't heard something from NiN (Nintendo Network). This could be pretty big at E3.

Kingdom Hearts 3 for Wii U. That would be a MEGATON ;D

The 3DS one didn't perform well in Japan. Problem with KH is that Square changed its platforms way too often. I guess that they will wait and see how DQX will do on the new Wii U.
 
The 3DS one didn't perform well in Japan. Problem with KH is that Square changed its platforms way too often. I guess that they will wait and see how DQX will do on the new Wii U.

dragon quest isn't a 'wait and see' franchise. it's a 'well obviously we're pledging a ton of support' franchise.
 
Saying as this is a speculative thread about WiiU lets get some good speculative chatter going, especially as it seems the thread has died when it resorts to speculating about the colour of suits that Reggie and Iwata will wear.

Lets be speculative for a second about the future of WiiU, not after launch but after the launch of the competition. What do you think the WiiU's market standpoint will be? Personally I would believe that it would be a similar tale to 3DS, slow to take off. How would Nintendo compete around launch periods?

Or am I just getting ahead of myself here?
Considering we don't know much about the games the Wii U will get, this is a very difficult thing to speculate about, of course. We hardly know what games it will get this year, let alone next year, nor do we know what Microsoft and Sony are up, and if anyone else, possibly Apple, might get in on the game. Although, I doubt Apple will challenge game consoles directly, they'll keep doing it indirectly. Seems to work pretty well for them like this.

But it will all come down to software, as it always does. Nintendo should use the headstart to get something nice, both for the extended demographic with the Wii Fit/Sports/Music/Play titles, and something for the core fans, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pikmin. But what Nintendo also needs to at least lock it up somewhat is something for the Xbox crowd. GTA, the superior version of a Call of Duty, a Gears of War-ish game. Something "gritty" and preferably third party. Try to sell the idea of the Wii U controller to everyone. And in a pinch, one of these demographics can slide, like with the Wii. The Wii was a success, but with room for improvement. Look at what Microsoft did with their headstart this generation, but keep at it with the titles similar to the Wii evergreens.

But honestly, we don't know much about the Wii U software yet. Nor do we know anything about what Sony and Microsoft are up to. What we DO know about the future of the Wii U is... Smash Bros. It's most likely not a launch title, so as a game to counter a rival console launch, it could be decent. Smash sells decently. Melee and Brawl did, at least. We can probably expect a Mario Kart and a Zelda game at some point, too. But how the Wii U will stack up against the rivals? We kind of need to see what the rivals do first, and if the third parties will begin supporting the Wii U, and actually sell well there.

So, this is basically a long way to say that, yes. This is getting a bit ahead of ourselves. Not that it has stopped anyone in these threads before, of course.
 
The 3DS one didn't perform well in Japan. Problem with KH is that Square changed its platforms way too often. I guess that they will wait and see how DQX will do on the new Wii U.

It didn't? I thought Japan loves the KH series just as much as we do.

As a punishment, the States should get the Final Mixes of 1, 2, BBS, and 3, while Japan loses the Final Mix for KH3 >=)
 
It didn't? I thought Japan loves the KH series just as much as we do.

As a punishment, the States should get the Final Mixes of 1 and 2, and BBS, and 3 while Japan loses the Final Mix for KH3 >=)

KH:DDD suffered from two things.
1. Platform switching way too much.
2. Userbase being soured on the last DS KH games.

It sold very meh, not because of the platform (which has already shown that it can support that type of game from first and third parties) but because of Square's insentience of milking its franchises poorly.
 
I think Microsoft has an exclusivity contract for the original Mass Effect, so it simply can't appear on any other system.

But the big question is what kind of exclusivity contract it is. Surely it won't be life-long because EA wants to benefit from their own games on the future platforms (like Virtual Console or Xbox Originals services do). So if the exclusivity contract was just for the current generation (360, PS3, Wii) then there wouldn't be any problem. The big question is that would EA consider Mass Effect 1 so big game that it would be worth porting after five years for Wii U. And I think considering the possible effort to do so the answer is no.
 
There might be a loophole that states that the exclusivity only applies to that generation of systems.

Don't want to be 'that guy,' but when even forum goers and gaming journalists have troubles deciding just what generation the Wii U falls in- hell, even developers are making statements all over the place- then how could Bioware exploit any such potential loophole to put Mass Effect on Wii U? I think that if such a loophole exists, it will be used to put ME1 on a system that is more clearly defined as 'next gen' (which might even be the Wii U once it becomes clear that the next generation of machines will be largely underpowered).
 
There might be a loophole that states that the exclusivity only applies to that generation of systems.
It's a LOT more than just an exclusivity contract. Microsoft was the publisher of Mass Effect 1. They paid for the game's development, they paid for its marketing, they paid for its distribution. Thus, they have full publishing rights to the game. They even came out and made an official statement that "the original Mass Effect is absolutely an Xbox 360 exclusive, making Xbox 360 the only place to get the full Mass Effect experience". They released it for PC, but don't expect it anywhere else but Microsoft-controlled game systems.

EA did not own Bioware when Mass Effect 1 was created/published.
 
But the big question is what kind of exclusivity contract it is. Surely it won't be life-long because EA wants to benefit from their own games on the future platforms (like Virtual Console or Xbox Originals services do). So if the exclusivity contract was just for the current generation (360, PS3, Wii) then there wouldn't be any problem. The big question is that would EA consider Mass Effect 1 so big game that it would be worth porting after five years for Wii U. And I think considering the possible effort to do so the answer is no.

Mass Effect 1 wasn't a game made under EA, though; Microsoft funded and published the first Mass Effect, which is another reason it was exclusive. EA was responsible for publishing it only on the PC.
I agree that just porting Mass Effect 1 alone wouldn't be worth the effort; a Mass Effect Trilogy on the other hand would be a pretty good addition to the Wii U's library, and a good contribution from EA.

I still think EA's megaton would be a Nintendo E3 debut for Battlefield: Bad Company 3.
 
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