The Witcher 3 | Review Thread
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hermeslyre
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So you want to be able to kill an enemy in the same time on hard, that an easy player will, or die with the same number of hits? I don't understand. How do they increase difficulty then?
Giving the player character less ATK and DEF is not much different then giving the enemies more HP and stronger attack damage. It accomplishes the same thing.
Steve Youngblood
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I'm lucky to find an hour or two of free time to do anything these days. Honestly, are there people out there where this is actually feasible? I know you're joking, but I'm jealous of the old days where I could knock out a 50+ hour RPG in a week or two. Assuming I actually finish Witcher 3 (many games I like get put on the backburner indefinitely), it'll probably take me at least a month.
Admiral Woofington
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the two short stories collections can easily be read through in a weekend. It introduces and gives you insight on all of the major characters, and also gives you the early days of Ciri.
I'm pretty sure the opening cinematic of Witcher 1 was
the mission he did to get Ciri
Well I have friends, but I'm single. All my friends are RPG nuts though. Next weekend we're all man caving in our respective homes to play this game lol.
Yeah I'll never have to work in my life again, I literally just spend all my time reading books, playing games, posting on GAF and hanging out with people I like/loved ones. I do get horribly bored sometimes though.
hermeslyre
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Kids or (some) students. The Unemployed. People with no children. A mix of some or all.
In other words fantasy land. But considering I'm waiting with so much anticipation for Monday so I can jump into fantasy land, I'll give them a break.
Admiral Woofington
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First weekend of the game I'll reserve exclusively to the game outside of maybe one day.
Also on weekdays I get back from work and outside of maybe 1 hour or so of taking care of puppy needs I can play until I head to bed.
Exentryk
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You can change the difficulty in the game at anytime. The max stats that Geralt can get is X. And that X can only be achieved in easy settings. After you've completed the main storyline, you have some tough monsters for end game.
Now, a person that played in easy and has a maxed stats Geralt, can change to difficulty to DM and take on the strongest monster. But a player that played in DM difficulty throughout will have to take on that strongest monster with gimped stats. So you see, in the end, the player on easy has the better stats, and since I like to max out my RPG character stats, playing in DM is just inferior.
Thankfully though, I'll be playing on PC. So I reckon I'll just play in DM, and then mod for max (easy) stats by end game. Win win.
Now, a person that played in easy and has a maxed stats Geralt, can change to difficulty to DM and take on the strongest monster. But a player that played in DM difficulty throughout will have to take on that strongest monster with gimped stats. So you see, in the end, the player on easy has the better stats, and since I like to max out my RPG character stats, playing in DM is just inferior.
Thankfully though, I'll be playing on PC. So I reckon I'll just play in DM, and then mod for max (easy) stats by end game. Win win.
king grimlock
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I wish it was time constraints that kept me from finishing games. I lost my drive to finish them over the past few months and I'm not talking about just starting a game and then dropping it, I was at the epilogue of DA:I which I'm guessing was a 10 minute ordeal and I switched it off for the night and never touched it again for no reason and I was really enjoying that game. Now I just feel like I'm wasting money and yet I keep buying.
LurkerPrime
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That's... undermining the whole point of a higher difficulty, you know. Play with skill to offset challenges imposed by more difficult gameplay.
I'm pretty sure that Geralt actually
got Ciri in Cintra, when he claimed the Queen's daughter's future child. Not fighting the Striga for Foltest, which is what that cinematic is.
AFAIK the opening cinematic for W1 is when Geralt is commissioned to cure King Foltests Daughter of a curse whereby she becomes a Striga during a full moon. Ciri, as I recall, is never mentioned in W1. It's been a while tho, I may have forgotten.
Also why are we spoiler tagging this, its an opening cinematic.
Actually
Geralt doesn't get Ciri in Cintra. Calanthe denies him and he walks away empty handed. However later after the sack of Cintra Ciri winds up being at the house of a merchant that Geralt saves from a monster. The Merchant promises what which lies at home he did not expect or something) and Ciri turns out to be that thing. She's twice a "child of fate".
Krappadizzle
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Yeah, it's just....odd.
What I'm saying is that they are using console cheats to give themselves 100 points at level 15. So that is not at all representative of how many points you'll have when you play.
Krappadizzle
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Quit your job
Abandon your family
Forget about sleep and food
Experience Witcher
How you call yourself min-max player if you aim to blatantly cheat the system and not min-max within restrictions of system?
Besides I think game automatically scales Geralt's stats like HP amount up and down as you swap difficulty settings. System like that shouldn't be very hard to do when you know how each difficulty setting scales e.g. HP. Playing through on Easy and swapping then to DM doesn't mean you suddenly have more HP in DM, than you would have if you had played through on DM from the start.
Why to even bother with DM if you want experience and stats of easiest difficulty setting?
hermeslyre
Neo Member
I've lost some level of interest in most of my hobbies over the years. But I've gained new ones. Guns. Hiking. Cooking. Tons of smaller ones. Still doesn't feel like I have half the passion I did as a kid.
Every once in awhile something pops up that hooks me like the old days, for days if not weeks. Witcher 3 feels like it might do the trick.
LurkerPrime
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Princess Adda, King Foltest's daughter, is cursed as a striga, yes. She's the one shown in Witcher 1's intro cinematic. The whole ordeal is detailed in one of the short stories in the Witcher series' first book, The Last Wish.
I understand. However at level 15 with ~100 points Geralt was still playing about what you would expect from that level. He runs from level 30 encounters, and faces level 15/20 encounters without about the power level one would expect from his level. In the IGN demo he's not outrageously strong.
Exentryk
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I don't have a problem with difficulty. My OCD just has a hard time accepting I have an inferior RPG character than what is possible in the game. I don't know. Why can't the stats just be same in all difficulties? Just make monsters dodge more, smarter AI, hit you harder, higher defense etc in higher difficulties.
Is this the sort of thing in all WRPGs? Maybe I just need to get used to it.
How you call yourself min-max player if you aim to blatantly cheat the system and not min-max within restrictions of system?
Besides I think game automatically scales Geralt's stats like HP amount up and down as you swap difficulty settings. System like that shouldn't be very hard to do when you know how each difficulty setting scales e.g. HP. Playing through on Easy and swapping then to DM doesn't mean you suddenly have more HP in DM, than you would have if you had played through on DM from the start.
Why to even bother with DM if you want experience and stats of easiest difficulty setting?
I want to play in the highest difficulty, and I want the max stats possible in the game regardless of difficulty (as you can change that at anytime). I don't know if I am using the min-max term incorrectly, but I want my RPG character to have the max stats possible.
If you couldn't change the difficulty at any time, I wouldn't mind just sticking with the DM stats.
Ah interesting. I just started Blood of Elves so I was just going off The Last Wish.
Sanctuary
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How you call yourself min-max player if you aim to blatantly cheat the system and not min-max within restrictions of system?
Besides I think game automatically scales Geralt's stats like HP amount up and down as you swap difficulty settings. System like that shouldn't be very hard to do when you know how each difficulty setting scales e.g. HP. Playing through on Easy and swapping then to DM doesn't mean you suddenly have more HP in DM, than you would have if you had played through on DM from the start.
Why to even bother with DM if you want experience and stats of easiest difficulty setting?
Gaming hasn't reached the point yet where everyone feels entitled to have a trophy showing that they finished the game on its highest difficulty without actually having to deal with any extra difficulty has it? I mean, I could totally see that within the next ten years, but now?
HEEHEE a ninja edit
Apologies for spoiling it then.
Admiral Woofington
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flaxknuckles
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I just want to have higher difficulty while still being able to eventually use high-level spells and abilities. How is that weird?
Admiral Woofington
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nobody said you can't you just have to choose your skill trees carefully. If you want to have higher difficulty and have all/most of the skill trees that's another story.
Sanctuary
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It's not, and there's no reason to believe that you won't be able to use high level abilities. Abilities (from distributed skill points) and stats aren't the same thing. There's also this whole "RPG" convention regarding skill points and trees. The entire reason to have them is because you're supposed to tailor your character with skills that seem appealing to you, i.e. "build". It's supposed to represent choice. Otherwise, they should just scrap the system entirely and just have 01_Geralt_the_default.
I never could get into the first Witcher and so haven't finished it, I also won't be able to buy the Witcher 3 for a couple weeks, should I play the second game in the mean time? My main frustration with the first game was the horrible camera and combat.
Also I am guessing I won't be managing Ultra on my 7970 Ghz Ed and i5-3570K?
Also I am guessing I won't be managing Ultra on my 7970 Ghz Ed and i5-3570K?
OmegaDL50
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ATTENTION TO ANYONE WHO PLANS TO BUY THE WITCHER 3 ON PC AND DON'T OWN THE FIRST OR SECOND GAME!!!!
Buy Witcher 1 and 2 for $1.49 + 2.99 for a grand total of $4.48
http://www.gog.com/game/the_witcher
http://www.gog.com/game/the_witcher_2
As opposed to getting buying the pre-order price at $53.99 (10% off)
By owning both the first and second games you get it for $47.99 (20%)
It may not seem like a discount but buying all three games you pay $52.47.
So basically buy Witcher 3 on it's on for $54 or Buy Witcher 3 for $52.50 and get Witcher 1 and 2 for free, and thus owning the entire Geralt trilogy for the same price for slightly less.
It's something to consider.
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/34761-amd-hd-7950-vs-hd-7970-clocks/
Buy Witcher 1 and 2 for $1.49 + 2.99 for a grand total of $4.48
http://www.gog.com/game/the_witcher
http://www.gog.com/game/the_witcher_2
As opposed to getting buying the pre-order price at $53.99 (10% off)
By owning both the first and second games you get it for $47.99 (20%)
It may not seem like a discount but buying all three games you pay $52.47.
So basically buy Witcher 3 on it's on for $54 or Buy Witcher 3 for $52.50 and get Witcher 1 and 2 for free, and thus owning the entire Geralt trilogy for the same price for slightly less.
It's something to consider.
No, I own a an i5 3570k and an 7950 and I know I won't run on Ultra, and 7950 gets almost identical performance as a 7970 at the same clocks.
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/34761-amd-hd-7950-vs-hd-7970-clocks/
Reading at least the very first book seems a great an short introduction to the world of the Witcher.
LurkerPrime
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It's about choosing what tier of character you want based on the difficulties presented. All hard-tiered characters will have the same capabilities; all easy-tiered characters will have the same capabilities, etc. There's absolutely no reason to cross-compare through the tiers, as they're not compatible to begin with.
Honestly, unless you're one of those weird achievement people, just adjust the difficulty to whatever is most fun for you - that's why they're there. (Edit: lol I guess my own advice contradicts my post above, too. Oh well! I stand by this one.)
I can confirm this. Reading the Last Wish, you'll see a clear inspiration for the unique ideas and mechanics present in the Witcher games.
Knowing them both makes the games even more impressive.
flaxknuckles
Member
You guys don't understand, I want all the abilities. I want to have hard difficulty playing through the main game but eventually become a god after I beat it. Fable is the only RPG I remember letting me do this so I'll probably just have to wait for a mod.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Witcher 2 didn't allow you to.
flaxknuckles
Member
It was a linear game that ended after you beat the story so I didn't care then
Sanctuary
Member
I don't understand this. Did you just want to run around using all of the abilities just for testing purposes? Otherwise, what's the point after you've already beaten the game on a higher difficulty? Did you just not feel like playing it more than once and just want to try eveything out?
He never said that it did.
LurkerPrime
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Witcher 2... linear game... what.... who...
viveks86
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Haha! Nice. Didn't realize this
Krappadizzle
Member
Absolutely. I've only just started on the second book myself but having read the first book before playing The Witcher 1 made it much more enjoyable. I didn't really play the series until I saw Witcher 2 release on my birthday and picked it up. I loved it and played it a ton. Tried to play Witcher 1 and just couldn't get into it. A year or so later I read The Last Wish and it made me want to give W1 another shot. And I'm glad I did. I found once I got used to the big differences from Witcher 2 I found myself enthralled with W1. I now think it's the best game between the two. It's setting/world is just done so well, especially with the music .
Sanctuary
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It's pretty linear. Having one choice that splits it into two different linear branches for one chapter doesn't change that. In fact, it's easily the most linear of the three games.
Me I think of it more along the lines of If you played Doom on ultra hard they took out the rocket launcher. Don't limit choices that the game has been designed around. Instead make the enemies smarter and more numerous + dmg increases.
Also personally i'm not asking for all the skills. Just that at the level cap my character isn't simply gimped compared to a level 50 char from normal. The curve of allotted points can be different sure.
Admittedly it's an odd instinct to desire this, as no two Geralts will ever meet. However the knowledge that a noob on easy could defeat my Geralt or his challenges easier annoys me.
It's hard to say since W2 is such looker and the combat is a little better maybe, but W1 is sort of the better game imo. Felt so epic and was sort of more complex story wise.
Admiral Woofington
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it wasn't a linear game entirely. You could roam around towns and do whatever you wanted. It just wasn't an open game.
Regardless your complaint is very specific. You want a challenge but then be able to be a god post-game? Why not do the bare minimum in missions to beat hard mode, then switch to easy post game and get more experience per mission?
A 'noob' (jesus people still say this? lol) wouldn't have the practice in battles as somebody on hard would have. The strategy would probably rely on mashing buttons because you've been playing easy mode, instead of using everything at your disposal.
Exentryk
Member
This. By end game, I want to have access to all skills, and max stats. But I still want to play the game in the hardest difficulty.
The problem here is this game is not designed for that. Maybe since I've grown up on JRPGs where there usually is a stat cap which you can achieve by end game. These games also let you get all the skills by end game.
Anyway, I'll just have to compromise with this game, or use mods to achieve what I want.
Krappadizzle
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I'd wager sooner than later they'll have the mods that let you alter your stats. Or you could just always use a trainer and find the values yourself. Either way, you'll be able to:
W2 is an incredible looking game. It had fantastic art direction and sound design was reeeaaallll good too. But as good as it's world looked, I hated a lot of the 3rd chapter. It drags. A lot. I didn't like the layouts of either choice and just wanted to get past that chapter and to the end.
It took me a few tries to get into the Witcher 1 especially since I played it after Witcher 2, I hated the combat. It's so different than W2's. But after I got used to it, I loved how fun it was to switch stances depending on your enemies and the world itself from the swamps to the rich part of the city, felt very real. Witcher 2 has a lot going for it and it's improvements to combat were great(ya'll can suck a dwarf cock if you hated the combat of Witcher 2
), but it's focus on waayy better graphics/sound had the scale brought down from Witcher 1. Or at least that is how it felt. I did like the story, and loved how political it gets. Everyone is scraping and clawing for an advantage or some semblance of power and it was a lot of fun to discover. Both are great games, I just think Witcher 1 is the better game.LurkerPrime
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Linear is not the term you're looking for; it's branching, if anything. We're splitting hairs, but linear really isn't a term that should be abused in this manner. After all, in the world of story-based gaming, Witcher titles are among the least linear out there.
flaxknuckles
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It's an open-world game that will still be populated with plenty of enemies to kill and side-quests to do once main story is over. Once I'm done with the main game I want to piledrive everyone and rule Novigrad and make all the guards my bitches
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