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The Witcher TV Show Writers 'Actively Disliked the Books and Games' - aka why the fuck do these Writers get these kinda jobs?

SCB3

Member


Seriously the amount of great IP that are ruined cause the Writers couldn't be assed or didn't want to keep somewhat to the source material, Halo and Netflix's Resident Evil being the worst ones I've seen (Even the RE Films are somewhat entertaining imo)
 

YCoCg

Member
Is this the same article that shows how awesome Henry Cavil is because he often had to stop certain or scenes to tell them how it would be in the actual games or how the characters would react more in line with the source? AKA, Henry Cavil is holding down this show on his own because he's a fan.
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
Do you still watch that s…t ?
It's actually really good, second season is more coherent and way better.

Getting back to the OP - this is probably due to executives wanting a 'fresh take' and more inclusive audience. By getting a hardcore fan you are guaranteed he will first and foremost appeal to existing fans, whereas a different writer might use the general idea of the IP and expand it = more money.

So to sum up:
1. Hardcore fan as a writer = same existing audience
2. Regular writer = same existing audience (the fans will watch just to complain, see Amazon's RoP) + new audience
 

AV

We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
I don't really understand why fans of the games/books need some bang average Netflix show in their life.

You've got like six novels and three games, let the casuals have the diluted experience with the series.
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
Also, I am not surprised that the Witcher source material might not be appealing to 25-year-olds growing up in the West. The series is based heavily in Polish humour with Slavic mythology and folklore, it's also a product of its time (Sapkowski started writing in in 1980s). There are a lot of swearing in the Polish edition, and the first book starts with Geralt having sex (this is literally in the first paragraph).
 

Silver Wattle

Gold Member
Also, I am not surprised that the Witcher source material might not be appealing to 25-year-olds growing up in the West. The series is based heavily in Polish humour with Slavic mythology and folklore, it's also a product of its time (Sapkowski started writing in in 1980s). There are a lot of swearing in the Polish edition, and the first book starts with Geralt having sex (this is literally in the first paragraph).
Sign me up.
 

Denton

Member
It's actually really good, second season is more coherent and way better.
how the f..

what the f...

the show is trash, season 2 even more than the first

I don't really understand why fans of the games/books need some bang average Netflix show in their life.

I don't need "bang average netflix show", but I was looking for a proper book adaptation for about 20 years and this was the best possible chance yet - if non-shitty writers and directors got to make it.
 
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Drizzlehell

Banned
Witcher writers hate the source material, Rings of Power writers don't know dick about LoTR and think they can make something better, Star Trek writers... well, they're just shit.

And people wonder why I don't even bother watching modern TV shows when they ask me about them...
 
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Seriously the amount of great IP that are ruined cause the Writers couldn't be assed or didn't want to keep somewhat to the source material, Halo and Netflix's Resident Evil being the worst ones I've seen (Even the RE Films are somewhat entertaining imo)
Their only concern is pushing The Message. This is all they think and worry about. Nothing else.
 
it's just ego. People just want to add their own spin on things so they end up disrespecting or outright ignoring the source material. Plus sometimes people get handed a show because they are in the right circles and not because of merit.

And when you combine ego with incompetence you end up with trash like halo and lord of the rings.
 

mxbison

Member
Is it only Netflix or do we have to hate everything on streaming services?

Don't have any VHS rental nearby so I'm kinda out of options.
 

Ogbert

Member
It’s not necessarily a bad thing. As long as you hold no animus to the source material, you can still adapt it for screen and develop something excellent.

The problem with the likes of Netflix is when mean spirited gimps try and actively undermine the original material in a bid to make political hay.

In short, you don’t have to like it, but you mustn’t hate it.
 

The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
I enjoy witcher for what it is, but it's clearly what they didn't like about the books.

The lack of diversity. Netflix forces it everywhere they can and its sickening.

Every time I see the show i say to my gf "look what they did to my fucking girl Triss" but she's like idgaf I don't know the lore lol.

But I just can't help it.

Everything Netflix touches they fuck up.
 

kyussman

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The Witcher is a series of books,they also got some pretty good games out of it......to suggest the IP is ruined because some idiots made a shitty TV show with it's name on is a bit of a stretch.
 
Witcher writers hate the source material, Rings of Power writers don't know dick about LoTR and think they can make something better, Star Trek writers... well, they're just shit.

And people wonder why I don't even bother watching modern TV shows when they ask me about them...
Please don’t mention new Star Trek, gaf is a safe space.

Even Patrick Stewert appears to hate it :( there can be no other explanation for the state of Picard.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
Ehh but their main actor loves them and is constantly giving direction based on them. I’m sure that’s ruffling some feathers to the writers and director.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
I enjoyed it....come at me.
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Filben

Member
People are jumpy as always. This is way overblown and barely newsworthy.

We have a co-producer who worked at two episodes and worked with a multitude of changing writing team members.

My guess what really happened: he worked on one or two episodes, got to work with two or three writers that have and had no business beyond one or two episodes who mocked the source material.

We weren't there, it's just one guy said something about another guy. And as always, context is paramount.

Huh huh huh it's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder how I keep from going under huh huh huh
Broken glass... everywhere. People pissing on the stairs and you know they just don't care.

Without context you probably think "what the hell? is he crazy?" What I should have done is to say that I'm quoting from an influential song about the frustrations of living in a ghetto. And now the lines probably make a little bit more sense to you.

They could have been mocking the source material, but to be fair, some of it is mock-worthy. It doesn't mean you dislike it entirely. You know how it often goes when you worked with people, you hear some snippets and decide and interpret by yourself what to make of it and carry it on.
 
RE welcome to raccon City said he is a huge fan of the games and delivered shit.

So it seems that someone who hates the books and games deliveres a better experience.

I am ok with that.
Fun story: a friend and I saw Welcome to Raccoon City in theaters opening weekend. Now, we're not diehards. We're casual RE fans, having played the games and knowing the lore, but don't really care about the series. I honestly don't care about any series. If a game is good, a game is good and I'll play it usually only once or twice. So we went in with low expectations and being hard to offend. But I digress.

We went to the film dead sober, which was probably our first mistake. 10pm, Saturday, opening weekend. 10 people there. We started making fun of how bad it was as it went, but by the half hour mark we were so fucking shocked by how bad it was that all we could mutter was "oh my god" half the time.

When would it end, I thought. Was this my purgatory? Was this what I deserved for my sins in life? But yet we finished the film. Not because we wanted our money's worth. No. But because some evil satanic force kept us from being able to stand. The panic set in.

The film ends. We are hunched over outside, mumbling about the absolute trash we had witnessed while we sucked in the outside air as if we were in a shelter underground for the last decade. As if in a daze, we stumbled across the street and got black out drunk to try and forget. A temporary solution. The hangover was extreme, and the absolute pain and agony washed over us as our brain cells kicked back in the next day.

It was the worst movie either of us have ever seen. It was torture. It was hell. And I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

I do not exaggerate. We're both huge horror movie fans, so we've gone out of our way to watch some real straight to VHS trash before. But never have I seen something so bad.

It took at least a month to recover from that film. A mere mention brought nausea. To this day I feel a discomfort just hearing its name.

Any video game adaptation is better than that movie. Most certainly The Witcher. Granted, I don't know shit about the Witcher, but still. And before any cheeky bastard decides to mention Uwe Boll, I already have a response to that. Yes, his films are bad. But just stupidly bad. Not mind destroyingly offensive bad. I'd rather watch all of his films in a row than watch Racoon City again.

Oh God. I'm having flashbacks. I need a drink.
 

Lasha

Member
I enjoy witcher for what it is, but it's clearly what they didn't like about the books.

The lack of diversity. Netflix forces it everywhere they can and its sickening.

Every time I see the show i say to my gf "look what they did to my fucking girl Triss" but she's like idgaf I don't know the lore lol.

But I just can't help it.

Everything Netflix touches they fuck up.

Whats weird is that Netflix doesn't impose its diversity requirements on non-western shows. I guess Polish culture doesn't count for much.
 

Laptop1991

Member
I could tell when the showrunner and team got the actress who plays Ciri to highlight a poster saying "we're not making the F games" and they didn't!, season 1 was generic and 2 was awful apart from episode 1, i have no interest in watching more of that, even Henry Cavill said it should be more like the book's and games afterwards.
 
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GHound

Member
Netflix and the like ruin just about everything they touch honestly. Unsurprising that one could attribute at least 90% some of it to malicious intent.
 
If it didn't click when you went to a star wars movie and instead of swashbuckling space adventure you a got a purple haired lady giving a feminist lecture, this is a culture being destroyed from the inside. The people controlling things hate the things, and hate the people that like the things, and will use the dumb things as a platform for their wonderful ideas and if that fails they'll burn the things to the ground
 
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