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oreomunsta
Banned
This is one of the game's harder puzzles, as has been said before, but it is manageable if you break the whole thing down into little rules that your solution must follow.
For example, how many different orientations can the
3-long tetrimino line piece
would have black dots on all sides of the shape, requiring a complete loop-around?
how you need to capture all blue squares and the other tetrimino within one curve?
the black pearl
Member
That green panel is driving me nuts. lol
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
Just "finished" the game.
Question for continuing:
Question for continuing:
Should I continue with a new game as prompted or go to a save before I got in the glass elevator?
The only thing that changes by starting a new game is your perspective on the beginning after learning all the rules and mechanics of the game, so it can be interesting to see stuff in a new light. That said, everything can be done in one save and there are no real points of no return.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
I feel no real desire to go back over puzzles I've already solved, so I'll just go back to another save. Thanks!
I know there's still plenty to do, but even if what I'd seen already was all there was to it, it would still be one of the best games I've ever played. What a truly incredible achievement.
You don't need to go back to any saves. It saves when you're in the elevator.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
I already hit "Start new game" so I'll have to load.
bananafactory
Banned
Man I can't figure out this damn tutorial panel in the quarry
I got 5 of the 6 but I feel like it was just luck because my strategy isn't working on the 6th
I got 5 of the 6 but I feel like it was just luck because my strategy isn't working on the 6th
Man I can't figure out this damn tutorial panel in the quarry
I got 5 of the 6 but I feel like it was just luck because my strategy isn't working on the 6th
Looks like you need to re-solve the previous tutorial puzzles and experiment with different ways of solving to test your theories about how the mechanic works.
bananafactory
Banned
Thanks I got the first set panels
Edit: Now stuck on the next set which add some colours -_- but progress is progress. I'll come back to this later
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
Holy fucking god damn shit I just discovered you can interact with "mazes" formed by the environment. This is nuts. The obsession with this game has no end in site.
finalflame
Banned
Can someone please explain to me why this is not a solution?
Potential tetris puzzle spoiler below, but not really.
<snipped images to remove potential spoilers now that someone helped me out>
Potential tetris puzzle spoiler below, but not really.
<snipped images to remove potential spoilers now that someone helped me out>
finalflame
Banned
Gotcha. Guess it was just hard to tell.
InaudibleWhispa
Member
Edit: nevermind, someone already answered.
Ah man now I really wish I didn't
look up the hidden ending on youtube. After inputting the secret code you find in the caves, I'm guessing I would've found the reason why you'd want to turn the gate on again, since I already found 20 or so +'s. Ah well.
I also found some +'s and I found circles at the bottom of the treehouse area, at the shipwreck site... I'm dropping it at 20 or so because tracking them all down would take me forever.
Also finally solved the desert bunker puzzle, that felt great. I'm only missing the 5th vid now, but as it stands I'm taking a break from the game, it's been an unforgettable ride.
I also found some +'s and I found circles at the bottom of the treehouse area, at the shipwreck site... I'm dropping it at 20 or so because tracking them all down would take me forever.
Also finally solved the desert bunker puzzle, that felt great. I'm only missing the 5th vid now, but as it stands I'm taking a break from the game, it's been an unforgettable ride.
Screw this. I'm at about
solved and some 30 in addition.
I'm stuck at the village puzzles which require environmental clues (as they don't have the shape ruling system), also
which I have no clue what to do. Really bummed after managing all that.
Also, I have enough
activated to turn on the puzzle
I guess that triggers the
or something, but I haven't found an earthly way to solve that.
I'm not yet asking for help, I'll do so next week. But I have 0 faith in myself left.
three fiddy
I'm stuck at the village puzzles which require environmental clues (as they don't have the shape ruling system), also
the one at the ship with different colored dots.
Also, I have enough
lasers
beneath the two guys feet at the top of the hill,
challenge
I'm not yet asking for help, I'll do so next week. But I have 0 faith in myself left.
In the village, there's a basement with
a sound-proof room, a broken speaker, and two puzzles like from the bamboo forest. What's this all about? I can't make anything of it. Obviously I'm supposed to input the code that the speaker would be playing... but how do I know what the code is if the speaker's broken?
I hope that's one of the harder ones, given that I just spent half of my morning recreating that puzzle in a drawing app on my tablet so I could test potential solutions at my leisure.
I think I've stumbled on a solution that looks correct, but I have to wait until tomorrow afternoon when I can finally turn on my PS4 and learn if all that time was used wisely...
paperspace
Member
Barry Burton
Member
How does anyone know what the code is, if the speaker's broken?
Goldrusher
Member
Solve both panels the same...
I love how these three posts are a ramp up from vague to straight up answer.
I didn't use any
sound hints
the two are dependent on each other.
the one on the right
I made a vague
connection
3 levels
size of dots, the other as the level of line.
going from low to high
inversed the level of lines.
So yeah, that's mostly by chance, so I'm wondering what the true rule is.
Remembrance
Member
What you actually did was
make both panels represent the same sequence of sounds. It doesn't matter what it is as long as it's the same on both.
Thanks, are there any other puzzles which are actually solved
on sound cues
produce any sounds
Remembrance
Member
I see now. That puzzle was not supposed to make sense if you didn't finish the
jungle
You should have learned these
with sound
no sound
There is an entire section of the world dedicated to those kinds of puzzles. Plus there is another more advanced one elsewhere.
You're really bad at using spoiler tags, lol. Just put one at the start and one at the end.
I could've sworn that's what I did. Guess I'll try again.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Just watched (post-game) the
That was really fascinating.
Very interesting stuff.
video unlocked after completing the challenge.
That was really fascinating.
I feel like Blow put this talk in there as a pre-emptive comment on the inevitable Easter egg hunt inevitably undertaken by the fans right now. Though I can't tell if it is telling us that any search for a huge secret is folly and foolishness, or hinting at something yet to be discovered.
Just completed the end game. A few questions:
Great game, but sure I "understand" it, but maybe I'll head to the story discussion thread.
What should I be doing with those panels lying on the ground? I don't understand their rules, but they seem simple enough to guess.
is there a trick to getting the +puzzles on the windmill? It seems they should be simple, but my dot always falls off when trying to go from the second blade to the third.
Besides just trying to find all the environment puzzles, is there anything I should be doing? I completed all lasers.
Great game, but sure I "understand" it, but maybe I'll head to the story discussion thread.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Third question: Yes, there is more you should be doing. Go to
the top of the mountain and look around.
First question:
They serve as a tutorial for a mechanic you will see a lot in the area I alluded to in my answer to your third question. Study them until you figure out their rules.
A hint how to do what I said at the end of the last spoiler. Only click if you want more help about that
did you find a panel with a symbol that consists of two triangles? How do the rules for this one differ from the panels with one-triangle symbols?
Remembrance
Member
Your first question is the answer to your third question.
As for your second question, I'm actually stuck on the same thing!
This game just keeps dragging me back in. I'm just like, "Okay, I'm done with the game, I've completed everything I wanted to do. Finished the main game, did some of the + puzzles... I'm not going to bother doing 100%, I'm satisfied."
But then I'll suddenly think, "...Wait a minute. Could there have been a + puzzle in that one spot?" And I'll turn the game back on, intending to check only that one spot, then wind up spending two hours searching for more + puzzles.
But then I'll suddenly think, "...Wait a minute. Could there have been a + puzzle in that one spot?" And I'll turn the game back on, intending to check only that one spot, then wind up spending two hours searching for more + puzzles.
I think I've got an answer for my own question which may help you too.
your line can't cross itself. You may have to take a non obvious path along the blades to make this happen.
Alec
Member
I think I might be bugged...? I think this puzzle is legit unbeatable.
Post-Game Spoilers.
Link to the video.
Link to the diagram.
Post-Game Spoilers.
Final set of puzzles for the Music Box Challenge. PS4 is currently in Rest Mode. I've solved the pillar on the right. Pillar on the left seems legitimately impossible. I've included both my terrible diagram of the puzzle as well as the video I took in order to create the diagram. I've gone over them hundreds of times, for hours. There is a dot in the DEAD CENTER. How am I supposed to get that in a Symmetry Puzzle?
Link to the video.
Link to the diagram.
So I went in
deaf
blind
Very strange, been through the area but the methodology never occurred to me, somehow. So I left them there, unsolved.
Actually, the village is a culmination of all the rules, so I should have guessed from the very different style that I'm missing an entire set of rule list.
That's how I roll, man.
The idea is to give a better intuition before one clicks on the spoiler tag, by using the surrounding information, as the surrounding words tell clues about how innocent the spoiler is. Environmental clues, sort of! Maybe the execution is bad.
I'm pretty sure I've come across two or three unsolvable puzzles during the challenge, too (not counting the two sets of three panels, although I still think I've ran into sets that had no solvable solutions until I intentionally turned it off again to get a new puzzle).
In the end, beating the challenge felt as satisfying as finally beating that one boss that gave you a hard time in Bloodborne. It was tough and some luck was required but it was still pretty fair. More games need to make the player feel that way.
In the end, beating the challenge felt as satisfying as finally beating that one boss that gave you a hard time in Bloodborne. It was tough and some luck was required but it was still pretty fair. More games need to make the player feel that way.
Remembrance
Member
Don't forget the huge difference between
the left and right pillars
The right pillar is mirrored symmetry. The left pillar is not.
You might forget about that by going into rest mode immediately...
Anything you write off as unsolvable deserves a second opinion, I think. But then,
anything in there you get a brain freeze on might as well be effectively unsolvable...
I agree but I was too lazy to take screenshots. A failed run was a failed run and getting annoyed by something like that would only hurt my following runs.
Whenever I hit a dead end and I realized the run was over I took my time with the potentially unsolvable puzzle to see if I can find an error with my logic that could help me on my next run but there was at least one I was 99% sure of. I think it was one of those where you had to go through the black dots and there was one specific puzzle where the broken lines and the black dots were arranged so that it is impossible to pick up one black dot and not run into a dead end. The only other way to access that black dot would then block off your way out with your own line. If you took the other way around to the black dot another dot would be unreachable. I think I looked at it from every possible angle but I'm not claiming it was definitely unsolvable. I'm just pretty sure about it.
Whenever I hit a dead end and I realized the run was over I took my time with the potentially unsolvable puzzle to see if I can find an error with my logic that could help me on my next run but there was at least one I was 99% sure of. I think it was one of those where you had to go through the black dots and there was one specific puzzle where the broken lines and the black dots were arranged so that it is impossible to pick up one black dot and not run into a dead end. The only other way to access that black dot would then block off your way out with your own line. If you took the other way around to the black dot another dot would be unreachable. I think I looked at it from every possible angle but I'm not claiming it was definitely unsolvable. I'm just pretty sure about it.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Tsk tsk, cheating on
Play it the way it was intended.
the challenge using rest mode.
Haha, I did a terrible description of the puzzle, sorry.
It's the one in this pic:
I don't think it's a puzzle I need any more info to solve. I've activated all the lasers except for the one in this area.
I know the mechanics.
I just think there's something missing in my train of thought.
For the record, I've tried
applying hints from different angles, but I just see the path that can be clearly seen in the picture. The path is not even a proper solution, but I've tried looking at the panel from plenty of angles, and I ONLY see this piece of path.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Haha, I did a terrible description of the puzzle, sorry.
It's the one in this pic:
I don't think it's a puzzle I need any more info to solve. I've activated all the lasers except for the one in this area.
I know the mechanics.
I just think there's something missing in my train of thought.
For the record, I've triedapplying hints from different angles, but I just see the path that can be clearly seen in the picture. The path is not even a proper solution, but I've tried looking at the panel from plenty of angles, and I ONLY see this piece of path.
Like all the other puzzles like this one
you need to look at it from the right angle.
More specifically:
Depending on how far you have gotten in other parts of the Town, my previous advice may still apply.
I think *this* works:
Here
(Ignore the numbers, just grabbed a slitherlink puzzle to use as a workspace. The 6x6 central portion is the puzzle itself, (Endgame spoilers)
I used the border to show wraparound
Haha, I did a terrible description of the puzzle, sorry.
It's the one in this pic:
I don't think it's a puzzle I need any more info to solve. I've activated all the lasers except for the one in this area.
I know the mechanics.
I just think there's something missing in my train of thought.
For the record, I've triedapplying hints from different angles, but I just see the path that can be clearly seen in the picture. The path is not even a proper solution, but I've tried looking at the panel from plenty of angles, and I ONLY see this piece of path.
Bigger hint than the one above:
look at the angle of the panel. You should have learned from the desert where you need to stand to see glare off it. You need to be high off the ground.