Savantcore
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So how do I keep track of how many puzzles I've done? I've heard people talking about a cool pause screen but whenever I press Options on PS4 I just get a couple settings and that's it.
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toythatkills
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"Load game"
So I've got
activated. The only areas I can think of that I've largely left unsolved are
Mountain:
10 out of 11 lasers
the town and the shipwreck. I'll be getting those soon enough; this game has taught me that a good night's rest is important above all else. That being said, I'd like to ask a mountaintop/endgame related question.
Mountain:
So I know the puzzle or box at the mountaintop can activate without having all of the lasers, as I visited the place already with only 5 or 6 lasers active (I only had to do a couple more lasers as it appeared to me back then). But does the game progression after that mountaintop puzzle differ depending on whether you've got all the lasers or less than 11?
Ideally I'd only want to go to the mountain when I have my last laser active as well, but if this means missing out on some "oh you nearly got there, but go back and finish up that laser first" moment, or some kind of non-true endgame or something, then I'd rather explore such an experience first before getting my last laser.
Ideally I'd only want to go to the mountain when I have my last laser active as well, but if this means missing out on some "oh you nearly got there, but go back and finish up that laser first" moment, or some kind of non-true endgame or something, then I'd rather explore such an experience first before getting my last laser.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Thanks. Got it now.
I had realized that the panel would be unsolvable unless there were only two colours. I didn't feel confident that all of the left and bottom lines were one colour each, and didn't want to spend hours working from an incorrect assumption. I didn't think that was very easy to see actually. The hint about diagonal lines wad very useful. I thought the previous ones were much easier though. When they were flashing different colours I found it easy to see which squares blinked in unison.
Yeah I know. The hard part for is finding a path that satisfies all the requirements. My problem is the
line in the middle with fields with one triangle. Satisfying the requirements for that one takes up a lot of space, which gives me too little space to satisfy the two-triangle fields at the bottom.
Edit: I'm so stupid. Seeing it today the second one was piss easy. That's how much difference fresh eyes can do. Just got it immediately after realizing that one of the assumptions I had made about how to do it was totally unnecessary and stupid. For some reason I had assumed that the only way to satisfy
the line in the middle with fields with one triangle was to go up between two, go two steps to the side tben go down between two others, then two more to the side and then up again. This way was impossible. But of course you don't have to do it that way.
So, what do i have to do after i'm through the first time?
After that Island Fly By i'm back at the beginnig. Should i go from there and do everything again? Should i load an old save? What am i looking for? Got all 11 Lasers, but not many of the +xx Puzzles.. Do i need to find and solve these for the "real" ending? Am i looking for something completely different? Please give me a hint GAF.
toythatkills
Member
I don't think so. Finishing up dinner, then i'll have a look. Thanks.
Katzenjammer
Member
Question about a late game puzzle:
I'm at the end of the mountain area where you exit out by the water. On the right set of columns, the second to last one, is it really possible to draw a single line that goes through every dot? Why are there three circles to start from? I feel like I'm missing a clue..
There's no hidden trick there, it's possible.
Katzenjammer
Member
I see, thanks.
of corse its possible, and the reason there are three is that only one is possible and a lot of the puzzle is working out which one (but thats been true many times before)
The Omega Man
Member
Halp guys, I've been stuck here for 2 hours, any hints?
http://abload.de/img/witness174rib.jpg
Thanks!
http://abload.de/img/witness174rib.jpg
Thanks!
Katzenjammer
Member
I just managed to solve it actually and the center one is trivially possible to start from with the same solution. I think it's there as a red herring because it got me thinking about whether it was a mirror puzzle.
This puzzle is easier than you might be thinking.
Remember that the blue squares can't be rotated, so some of them can only fit in only one of the yellow blocks.
toythatkills
Member
Quite a simple one, really. Or at least you'll think it was once you've done it!
You've got the same amount of blue blocks as yellow ones.
So you just need to work out how to make the correct shapes to "cancel out" each of the yellow shapes.
Once you know which pieces go together, you only need to split the grid in two.
I dont see anything.
Right before the door tonthe room. With the pillars is a statue with a panel, but its black. Do you mean that?
toythatkills
Member
Yep!
There's a way to activate it.
Back at the top of the mountain.
EXPLICIT:
Underneath the box on the top of the mountain...
Katzenjammer
Member
Ending spoiler:
On the PC, is the game supposed to quit me back to the desktop after the flyby at the end? I just finished it for the first time.
The Omega Man
Member
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I have a question about endings.
I just turned on my 7th laser so I can now go into the
. Should I go straight in and beat the game to see what the game has for me now, or should I just turn on every laser first and go from there?
I just turned on my 7th laser so I can now go into the
mountain
You can go ahead and beat the game. When you do, there will be a save game you can reload that is right before the ending and you can backtrack out and carry on playing.
After beating the game, you'll be encouraged to do something. It might seem pointless, but is worth doing if just for a little while.
igordennis
Member
So uhhh why did people repeteadly tell me
and now i have finished the game and
those random triangle puzzles on the floor were a tutorial of sorts for the endgame
have never seen any actual puzzles with those triangles? Is it something on the challenge?
RageWaffles
Member
Made a crazy amount of progress today. Solved about 100 more puzzles (not even counting the + ones) and turned on 7 more lasers (thereby finishing those up, as far as I can tell).
But I'm wondering if I screwed myself by solving a puzzle maybe before the game thought I could...
Inside the
,
I'm just worried because my previous save file is from 86 puzzles ago. (And the save file before that one is 1 puzzle earlier. wth, game?) My worrying about this is taking all the fun out of the
puzzles. Kappa
But I'm wondering if I screwed myself by solving a puzzle maybe before the game thought I could...
Inside the
mountain
after getting past the first big room, you head down what kinda looks like a mine shaft. There's an elevator there, but you can't get to it until after passing the next big, white room. But if you try just the right spot, you can activate and solve the puzzle, sending the elevator down. Unlike in the greenhouse/bunker, the elevator doesn't seem to come back if you're going to be stranded. I'm wondering if there is a way to call the elevator back up while on the top platform, or will it just come fetch me when I get to the platform?
I'm just worried because my previous save file is from 86 puzzles ago. (And the save file before that one is 1 puzzle earlier. wth, game?) My worrying about this is taking all the fun out of the
seizure
MegaSackman
Member
affleck1981
Member
Oh my god. Just beat
Felt as good as beating Martyr Logarius - actually, I think there are a lot of similarities in the design philosophies between this and the Souls series, like how you're not told anything and expected to work out the rules as you go. Great game!
the challenge room. Stood up and shouted out yes as I lucked out on the final pillar - it had one white square at the bottom, with a few other black squares.
Felt as good as beating Martyr Logarius - actually, I think there are a lot of similarities in the design philosophies between this and the Souls series, like how you're not told anything and expected to work out the rules as you go. Great game!
I took a break from The Witness to play Unravel but i restarted today and reached the end. I'm at 406 + 35 and still have a few lasers to go. In total, i cheated on one puzzle (which turned out to be really easy but i wasn't seeing it) and got a tip on another one.
Has there been any discussion about the ending? I didn't understand any of it and it didn't seem to add anything to the game? I have the feeling i'm missing something. Why was i there? Maybe solving the remaining puzzles will make it clearer? I reloaded my savegame and i look forward to continue playing and hopefully solve more of the remaining puzzles.
All in all, it's been a long time since i have been so addicted to a game as i was with The Witness. I never felt bored and i rarely felt frustrated while playing and whenever i stopped playing, i couldn't wait to get back to the game. As such, i consider it amongst my alltime favourite games and a classic amongst puzzle games, a GOTY contender and a confirmation that Blow is amongst the best game developers out there. Braid was fantastic and this was, dare i say, even better and well worth the long wait.
Has there been any discussion about the ending? I didn't understand any of it and it didn't seem to add anything to the game? I have the feeling i'm missing something. Why was i there? Maybe solving the remaining puzzles will make it clearer? I reloaded my savegame and i look forward to continue playing and hopefully solve more of the remaining puzzles.
All in all, it's been a long time since i have been so addicted to a game as i was with The Witness. I never felt bored and i rarely felt frustrated while playing and whenever i stopped playing, i couldn't wait to get back to the game. As such, i consider it amongst my alltime favourite games and a classic amongst puzzle games, a GOTY contender and a confirmation that Blow is amongst the best game developers out there. Braid was fantastic and this was, dare i say, even better and well worth the long wait.
Keep looking around. Here are some vague hints:
Hint 1:
to advance, you will need to look at something you've already seen from a new perspective.
is there a cable that isn't lit up somewhere on the island?
try to remember the statues you've see during the game, and what they were holding.
mountain.
top.
I wouldn't say "clearer", but you still have a lot to discover.
Fuck yes! Platinum achieved! Took me a few sessions for the final trophy but I had a few minutes of spare time and got it on my first try.
I got lucky in the maze. The first panel was right at the start and I found the second one right away without memorizing the location. Managed to solve the pillars with half of the second song remaining. Feels great! I also got lucky with the two sets of three puzzles. Got the correct one immediately and they were very obvious.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Postgame: Fuck The
I'm fucked
Challenge. I don't think I can ever make it. I'm really bad at figuring out which of the colour panels is l possible so I always lose a lot of time there. Should probably spend some time thinking about a few symbol combinations that should always be impossible, so I can discard a panel immediately when I see them. I always lose so much time there. On a relatively good run, I'll move on to the maze when the second song starts. And I never get farther than that. On half my attempts I can't even find a panel before time's up. And when I do, I never manage to beat them. I know the rules for the triangle symbols. I just find it difficult to apply them without running out of space. It doesn't fucking help that I Bergakungens Sal really stresses me out.
I really fucking hope there aren't several panels in the maze and that they don't throw in a few impossible ones which you have to ignore like they do for the colour panels just before.
I really fucking hope there aren't several panels in the maze and that they don't throw in a few impossible ones which you have to ignore like they do for the colour panels just before.
I'm fucked
It is the same, or at least alluding to the turntable in the challenge. If you go back there and look upwards you'll see the same hanging lanterns where you were in the credits caves.
Okay, I finished the endgame and saw the
. Now I'm back in my main game, and I've
secret credits area
activated the puzzle on the box the statues are holding at the mountaintop. The puzzle it turns on, which I assume starts the Challenge, has a bunch of triangles. I've found some of those throughout the world, but they've never been explicitly tutorialized. I've tried some of those, and they seem to get solved but I have no idea what the rule is. Do I want to go back and do those first and it will teach me the rule, or is this puzzle in the mountain going to teach me how to solve those?
affleck1981
Member
Go back! You'll need to work out the rule.
Hint -
it's not the symbol, but the number
Remembrance
Member
Finding the panels in the maze is not a matter of luck.
Two patterns that signal impossible color panels: a 2x2 square of 2 alternating colors, and a 2x2 square containing 3 different colors.
The triangle symbols are seriously tough at this point since you're probably still not used to them. Have you found the two triangle panels that open doors leading out of the underground tunnels? Those at least offer some practice.
Two patterns that signal impossible color panels: a 2x2 square of 2 alternating colors, and a 2x2 square containing 3 different colors.
The triangle symbols are seriously tough at this point since you're probably still not used to them. Have you found the two triangle panels that open doors leading out of the underground tunnels? Those at least offer some practice.
I finally reached
523 +88 +0
That much was clear, but if you look out the other side you can see a different one.
Edit about the post above me:
I love the triangle puzzles! They're probably my favorite kind of puzzle in the game.
Nope, I think it's the same one! The path you're following through the credits sequence complety breaks all logic regarding physical space!
You're going to need a more precise description of which puzzle you're on, there. I have half an idea, but don't want to say anything until I'm certain it's the right one.
It's maze nr. 3. Maze 2 was the one with the vegetation on the ground and you had to pick the clean path. Maze 1 was the one with the gates. I think you can't change the order in which you solve the mazes.
Remembrance
Member
I can't remember exactly, but I thought it was the same one from a different angle, (endgame spoilers)
which is impossible but that hotel doesn't make sense physically anyways
Thanks. Solved it immediately with that tip but i wouldn't have thought of it.
hydrophilic attack
Member
I'll check your tip about
what patterns signal an impossible panel if I get desperate. Interesting about the maze. I think I have an idea I'll try it when I get home.
Sorry if I'm behind the times on this, but I've been on blackout until I could get a chance to play.
I finally got started today, solved a couple of puzzles and then
Excited to keep going
I finally got started today, solved a couple of puzzles and then
had to sit through like a 10 minute unskippable first-person FMV of someone stumbling around an office / house? And then the game crashed?
I restarted and I'm back in the first garden, but that's a really weird way to start a game! I guess I wasn't expecting, well, I don't know what I was expecting?
I restarted and I'm back in the first garden, but that's a really weird way to start a game! I guess I wasn't expecting, well, I don't know what I was expecting?
Excited to keep going
Even if that FMV did drag on a little, mysterious though!
Definitely a crash. That video is not for the beginning if the game.Sorry if I'm behind the times on this, but I've been on blackout until I could get a chance to play.
I finally got started today, solved a couple of puzzles and thenhad to sit through like a 10 minute unskippable first-person FMV of someone stumbling around an office / house? And then the game crashed?
I restarted and I'm back in the first garden, but that's a really weird way to start a game! I guess I wasn't expecting, well, I don't know what I was expecting?
Excited to keep goingEven if that FMV did drag on a little, mysterious though!
KharmaPolice
Member
Just finished up the + puzzles. Had quite a bit of trouble finding the last three. Completion wise I'm now sitting at
, so I must have missed a panel somewhere. Can't be bothered to go look for it though.
Quite satisfied that I managed to do it all on my own, but I'm torn on the + puzzles. A lot of them were really cool, especially the ones that me made you reconsider previous solutions. But there was also a lot of tedious searching involved, akin to pixel hunting in old adventure games.
I agree, those were my least favorite puzzles in the game. Quite tedious.
522 + 135 + 6
Quite satisfied that I managed to do it all on my own, but I'm torn on the + puzzles. A lot of them were really cool, especially the ones that me made you reconsider previous solutions. But there was also a lot of tedious searching involved, akin to pixel hunting in old adventure games.
I agree, those were my least favorite puzzles in the game. Quite tedious.
Postgame: Fuck TheChallenge. I don't think I can ever make it. I'm really bad at figuring out which of the colour panels is l possible so I always lose a lot of time there. Should probably spend some time thinking about a few symbol combinations that should always be impossible, so I can discard a panel immediately when I see them. I always lose so much time there. On a relatively good run, I'll move on to the maze when the second song starts. And I never get farther than that. On half my attempts I can't even find a panel before time's up. And when I do, I never manage to beat them. I know the rules for the triangle symbols. I just find it difficult to apply them without running out of space. It doesn't fucking help that I Bergakungens Sal really stresses me out.
I really fucking hope there aren't several panels in the maze and that they don't throw in a few impossible ones which you have to ignore like they do for the colour panels just before.
I'm fucked
One thing that helped me was
muting the ingame music, and putting something on that relaxes you or that you're comfortable with. You don't need the ingame music. When you're on a good run, you'll know.
Ok I don't think I get the rules of tetris.
I've done a big chunk of the Marsh, I'm in one of the basements doing puzzles with the blue outline blocks. Do these have to cancel a yellow block or can you have them on their own? I'm on one puzzle where the grid is 4x4 and I've only two yellow blocks in it and everything is quite spread out, not seeing how I can group things.