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The X-Files S10 |OT| The Truth Is Still Out There - Mondays 8/7c

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Siegcram

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I'm still in for the Morgan episode, but man was this Carter at his worst.

And as was to be expected, Duchovny brought his season-7-of-Californication acting which is to say none at all. Only to be outdone by whatever the fuck McHale was doing on screen.

This had all of what people hate about the mythology episodes and then some.
 
Mulder's rant about the H bombs was seriously funny. That dialogue plus Duchovny's delivery... OOF (And Joel McHale just made it even better). I still can't wait for the MOTW eps though, especially Darren Morgan's ep.
 

TTG

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So, SSOOOOO good! Having mostly only seen the first season the
Scully and Mulder had a child
thing was news to me. Anyway, I thought they struck just the right tone. Had me laughing at the conspiracy spiel/montage(they want you fat, America) and still very much into the final scenes. That must be incredibly hard to get away with, full on ridiculous without the audience losing credulity in the show.

My only concern going forward is Duchovny was not convincing, especially relative to Gillian. He really bungled the scene on Mulder's(or Sveta's?) porch when he's holding her by the shoulders before the big meeting.
 
Holy Christ, this insane rant by Jeff Wheeler.

This is a conspiracy theorist's messy orgasm.
It really was complete lunacy, wasn't it? I hope the show is gonna pull the rug from underneath us and twist back on itself, but it's gonna be hard to come back from that. Mulder should have stood up have said "Wait, what the FUCK are you going on about?!" when McHale mentioned the FEMA prison camps, lol.
 
Considering they already did the "it was human governments all along, not aliens - the aliens were a front!" thing before, I'd imagine this is actually setting up a further plot twist where it actually is aliens.

Kind of a silly rehash.

Then you weren't watching, because they explain that
they now think the aliens were peaceful all along, the humans just made up the colonization plot. Which makes no fucking sense because Mulder has seen colonization firsthand.

Really? Can you link me?

Carter on Movie 3.


As for the multiple season quote, Duhovny said it somewhere, and given the season ends on a cliffhanger, I believe it.
 

Siegcram

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Holy Christ, this insane rant by Jeff Wheeler.

This is a conspiracy theorist's messy orgasm.
That felt word for word like the Leviathan plot of season 7 Supernatural. Same imagery and all. Only without any of the self-awareness. Carter probably saw it in 2011, forgot about it and then remembered it as a stroke of his own genius.

Also I like how they forgot how they casted Hiro Kanagawa like 2 times already and he just continues to appears as different characters and dies in the same episode.
 

anaron

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Also it's not a fucking reboot.

An actual journalism major called it a reboot.

what the fuck guys.
I fucking hate that shit! these idiots are using "reboot" to describe everything these days, My favourite is still calling the Netflix Gilmore Girls season 8ish movies one. like, the fuck?
 

obin_gam

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It's about teenagers getting abducted but it's like a meta story because every person they interview gives them a different version of the same facts (which are dramatized) and also a guy is writing a book about the abductions (Jose Chung)

It's the one with Jesse Ventura and Alex Trebek as Men in Black

Ah yes, I remember now. Though I have never liked that one. A bit too meta for my taste.
 

MrBS

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I didn't think episode one was very good. I also loved it lol

For better or worse this was like traveling back in time thirteen years to when X Files was still a show. I'm glad I'm not as invested this time and I'm having fun with it.
 

Sölf

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I am so in. The episode was okay, but as others said, the mythological episodes are mostly worse than the monster of the week episodes. But dayum, Cancer Man is back. Still one of the best antagonists ever. Now bring back Lone Gunman. <3
 
The aliens are actually peaceful and it is the government that has stolen their technology to... destroy us all, or is it control us all, or... is it both?

The whole thing runs counter to everything we've seen before, but okay!
 

strafer

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Wow, at first at thought that Sveta girl was Alona Tal.
Alona-Tal-alona-tal-1579472-1333-2000.jpg
 
It felt like The X-files, a Chris Carter episode to be specific, for better and worse. I was very happy to see Mulder and Scully. They felt right. The conspiracy is as silly and convoluted as it's been since season 5 or so. So it fits right in. I knew what to expect going in, so this episode met my expectations. It also helps that I've been rewatching the original run so I know what kind of lows this show has.
 
The aliens were peaceful?

Then what about that black oli shit?

The conspiracy was real we saw the syndicate dealing with them

I doubt that all the aliens that were encountered were entirely benevolent. I am sure some of them did, in fact, work with the syndicate. At least, I hope that is revealed in time.

The key falsehood "My Struggle" proposes seems to be that the syndicate orchestrated the invasion, allowed Mulder to think it was happening ("The Truth"), in order to subdue his quest for the truth. That truth being that the syndicate, or whomever was in charge after the original group was killed, had designs on using alien technology to institute their own nefarious take over of the world.

This solves two problems. First it dances around the issue of the December 21st, 2012 invasion date that was previously set in stone. It's now more of a soft launch for whatever the shadow government is planning. Second, it allows Chris Carter to adapt the show to the current post-September 11th sociopolitical environment that is fearful of government spying, corruption and war-mongering in a way it never was before.

Carter was a bit clumsy in the execution, and he needed a two hour premiere, but I think the episode does solve the above problems. The show is now designed to play on current fears but without dismissing its supernatural roots. It's a very well thought out design.
 

strafer

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Okay, done.

While it was not the greatest X-files episode ever it was miles better than that crappy movie we got in 2008.

Can't wait to see the next episode.

And to be real Mulder he needs to get into his suit.

and that intro man, how I missed it.

And the cancer man...woah...smoking through his neck...that is,
 
Okay, done.

While it was not the greatest X-files episode ever it was miles better than that crappy movie we got in 2008.

Can't wait to see the next episode.

And to be real Mulder he needs to get into his suit.

and that intro man, how I missed it.

And the cancer man...woah...smoking through his neck...that is,

Cancer man had that in the finale before he got his face blown off.
 

Durock

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For those discrediting the "Aliens were peaceful""" stuff... Wasn't there two types of aliens? If I recall correctly, there were two different alien races that were warring against one another throughout the show. Idk. It's kind of frustrating how confusing it all really is....

I can't wait to see they're explanation of how Cigarrette Smoking Man is still alive after we clearly saw him blown up. Or at least that's what they wanted us to believe....
 

VICI0US

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man, it's great to see these guys back together.

the mythology episodes have always been weaker than the MOTW ones in my opinion, and in this episode i feel they were tremendously hampered by their time/episode limitation here.

they had to summarize the plot of 202 episodes and 2 movies for new viewers, touch on what has happened in the decade+ since the series originally concluded, introduce a reason for the now separated mulder/scully to get back together, introduce a brand new overarching conspiracy/plot, and get them back in touch with the FBI and have the x-files reinstated... all in 42 minutes.

Things felt rushed, I feel like this one episodes worth of events would've easily been 3 episodes were they still doing 20+ episode seasons. Being limited to 6, with only 2 of those being mythology, means a lot has to happen and it has to happen quickly.

I'm really looking forward to the more self-contained MOTW format for the next few. I can't believe it's back, so good.
 

teiresias

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It really was complete lunacy, wasn't it? I hope the show is gonna pull the rug from underneath us and twist back on itself, but it's gonna be hard to come back from that. Mulder should have stood up have said "Wait, what the FUCK are you going on about?!" when McHale mentioned the FEMA prison camps, lol.

FEMA has been a boogie man in the show for years, at least as early as the first movie, so that's hardly new territory.
 
For those discrediting the "Aliens were peaceful""" stuff... Wasn't there two types of aliens? If I recall correctly, there were two different alien races that were warring against one another throughout the show. Idk. It's kind of frustrating how confusing it all really is....

I can't wait to see they're explanation of how Cigarrette Smoking Man is still alive after we clearly saw him blown up. Or at least that's what they wanted us to believe....

I think the movie really muddles things a little bit with the black oil acting like something out of Alien/Prometheus.

From what I had originally recalled there was a civil war between a single alien faction. One group that was under the control of the intelligent black oil. They were shape-shifters and later it seemed to be established that their natural form was the grey alien as was revealed in that baseball episode. The other was a faction that had sown their eyes and mouths shut in order to keep themselves from being controlled by the black oil.

The shape shifting alien race itself wasn't necessarily bad from what I could tell, it was the the black oil that was controlling them.

When they introduced the gestation period in Fight the Future things got a little confusing. It was less about control and more about creating a new entity entirely through a gestation process.

Oddly, I think the new narrative of the shadow government using alien tech to further their own agenda better explains the whole super soldier story from the last couple of seasons. It makes more sense that the government would be creating a super army to further their own agenda than aliens who already could simply infect you and use you as their enforcer.

I think the new narrative needs to establish that the black oil was still up to know good but invasion was never its end game.
 

Real Hero

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That was bad, it's the first episode and it feels like it is already going through the motions. It didn't do anything particularly well at all.
 
That was bad, it's the first episode and it feels like it is already going through the motions. It didn't do anything particularly well at all.

It wasn't even that bad of a mythology episode but I do think it was a bad first episode when you're trying to revive a show, especially after a failed movie. It's not going to be that accessible beyond the familiarity of it for a lot of people and I'm not sure how a late start and a football crowd will work in its favour at all.

I can work out scenarios in my head that would have started with a monster of the week episode that would have also brought them back to the X-Files. Or create what looks like a monster of the week story that turns into a mythology episode by surprise.
 

Real Hero

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I can't get over bad it was, I thought it would be really mixed but they brough this show back for that?? It was wasn't just the writing or the chris charter dialogue, the acting was dull and it looked worse than the original show
 
I can't get over how bad that was, I thought it would be really mixed but they brough this show back for that??

It's a Chris Carter mythology episode. All the critics who panned this say it gets better in the next two episodes. Some suggest the third is a classic.
 

VICI0US

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It's a Chris Carter mythology episode. All the critics who panned this say it gets better in the next two episodes. Some suggest the third is a classic.

I was reading the IMDB summary and
it sounds hilarious. a scooby doo spoof. glad we're getting some classic x-files comedy in the revival. plot spoilers/synopsis in next set

"Called to an old mansion where sightings of a creature have been scaring the guests. They meet, a dirt-bag, a metro-sexual, a lesbian, a sexy red-head and a Great Dane. The creature is just old Mr. Peterson wearing a disguise to scare guests. He would've gotten away with it too, were it not for those meddling teenagers...and their dog...and Mulder and Scully."

Didn't some of the X-files people work on Breaking Bad?

yep, vince gilligan wrote several episodes. bad blood, widely regarded as one of the best. and an episode guest starring bryan cranston.

aaron paul also guest starred in one of the later seasons.
 

carlsojo

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For those discrediting the "Aliens were peaceful""" stuff... Wasn't there two types of aliens? If I recall correctly, there were two different alien races that were warring against one another throughout the show. Idk. It's kind of frustrating how confusing it all really is....

I can't wait to see they're explanation of how Cigarrette Smoking Man is still alive after we clearly saw him blown up. Or at least that's what they wanted us to believe....

From what I remember on my rewatch, there were quite a few different alien races.
 
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