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The X-Files S10 |OT| The Truth Is Still Out There - Mondays 8/7c

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If this episode was supposed to be episode two originally the switch must have happened at an early enough stage to shoot a few new scenes.
 
what scenes do you think were new?
Scully specifically references her mother's death.

So how to fix the mess of an opening and that horrendously written nurse?

Show that community of Muslims in the beginning being all neighborly to the guy who ends up in hospital , rather than a bunch of texans seemingly correctly profiling. Then show how horrified they are about the bombing.

So what do we thinkle overall about Einstein and Miller?
 
what scenes do you think were new?

Anything to do with Scully's mom dying would have had to been added. That's surprising since it's used as her motivation for helping Miller. I wonder what the initial catalyst for that would have been.


Last week's was supposed to be episode 2. This one would have been 4 instead of 5.

Really. I swear I read it was 5. I could be wrong though.

Edit:
http://www.cinemablend.com/m/television/Why-X-Files-Episodes-Airing-Out-Their-Original-Order-114357.html



Edit2: never mind. Read the rest.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Frohike enjoying that honky-tonk bedonk-a-donk.

So was I, going from Billy Ray to Trace Adkins. So smoooth how it went from old 90's Country into like "Club Country"/00's.

Edit: So many people hating on this episode on reddit and I'm fucking dying because it explored Nu-Mulder/Scully dynamics and had a fucking hilarious 10 minutes drug trip.

It's bizarre that they're doing the same thing two eps in a row.

Last Weeks felt unneeded and could've been better done if they skipped the monster of the week to lead into this one's theme of life and death and peoples beliefs (like Scully's as stated by Mulder and "the book") with Scully's mom dying in the previous episode and 45 mins of soul searching there. The trashman story bit was absolutely unneeded and felt half-assed. Compared to this one where they explore Nu-Mulder/Scully's dynamics and their same dynamics mimicking Mulder/Scully in a way during Season 1 and Nu-Mulder really believing the same things Mulder does (and Nu-Scully starting to get why Scully sticks with Mulder besides their sexual chemistry)
 
I liked it. It felt a little long-winded, but the whole episode was based off of the dialogue from Mulder about the weight and power of thought.

The placebo effect, radicalization through religion (the cell), how anger and hate have a sort of mutual feedback growth from one side to another (that nurse and the DHS guys). . .
 
And do people really like Triangle? I always thought it was over written dog shit.

My biggest disappointment with it is I was expecting the actual return of the Gunmen. Instead it's just a trip.

I'd be pretty mad if their deaths were undone. I'm already kind of mad about CSM.
 
I read the production codes before I replied. It goes 1,5,3,2,4,6

So her mom would have died in episode 2. Plus I remember people flipping their shit at the Home Again title during early production.
Also... the pencils thrown by Mulder in episode 3 were in the poster in this episode.
 
Eh, Mulder on shrooms pretty much made up for the rest.
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I like McHale but I'm not looking forward to more Taddy Mason next week.
 

TheSeks

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Worried they are going to try a stupid reboot with those 2 actors.

I don't think that's gonna be the case. Gillian Anderson and David Duchovny both said they're willing to do another season if this one remains popular and they can do these short seasons (6 episodes or so. Probably a max of 12) to keep with their other jobs/series/stage plays. I think this was just Chris Carter showing a younger generation dynamics that mimic Mulder and Scully's in a way.
 
Episode had some really cool ideas in it, but the extremely unsubtle way they handled the terrorist plot + the wack way everything came together at end bogged it down big time.

I liked the doppelgängers though, Agent Einstein looks like Jessica Chastain's little sister or something. I also enjoyed the back and forth between all the agents. Really, the agent interaction and Mulder's trip are the only things that saved this episode.

Not really excited for next week's episode, though I'm happy that the ratings are good and they billed it as the season finale. I'd be happy with another 6 episode series again, anything more would probably be pushing it with Carter at the helm.
 
Yes and yes. But I still don't think it was as good as 2, 3 and 4. Not far behind 4 though. 3 is on another planet however.

Yeah, Carter went waaaayyyyyyy overboard with the heavy handed exposition on terrorism. I mean he's not exactly wrong but when it got to the scene with the nurse in the hospital I was thinking (holy shit can you tone this down a bit Carter).
 
Einstein felt fairly distinct from young Scully to me. Miller was very close to a young Mulder. I still wish they paired Mulder and Miller and Scully and Einstein though.

Einstein seems way more closed minded than Scully ever was.

Where Scully is at least intrigued by the unknown and trying to use science to figure things out. Einstein is more "f that shit".
 
In spite of all the tonal inconsistencies, I liked the episode until the final segment. Scully referencing Mulder's first words to her from the Pilot was cute, and Mulder's mushroom trip sequence was legendary. I was rolling!

But seriously, the last 10 minutes or so was complete dog shit. Carter's "final word" illustrated through the last two conversations was so heavy-handed, and unearned based on the preceding 30 minutes (which were largely comedic)

This is the fourth episode now that has been notably hampered by the six-episode format. The last movie tried to tell too many different stories and explore too many themes, to the point where nothing was allowed room to develop naturally, and instead everything felt forced and half-baked.

Same thing has happened here. The premiere tried to cram in so much in 42 minutes that it was a complete train wreck. "Home Again" tried to tell two stories in one (with the MOTW aspect being relegated to the background), and the "treating people like trash" thread connecting the two felt tenuous at-best. And then this week, again, it felt like Carter had at least two ideas but only one episode to work with. So instead of executing on one of those ideas well, he stuffed them both into the same episode, and it just never came close to working.

Only Darin Morgan's episode was a true standalone, and it's no coincidence that it's far-and-away the strongest of the five. I applaud him for just trying to write a good X-Files episode, and for not trying to shoehorn every idea in his head into one jumbled mess of an episode.
 

Pagusas

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So without spoiling me, has this been a worthy revival (so far) and a good reason to watch all 9 seasons of the xfiles or is this likely going to be a failed attempt at reviving the franchise and not truly finish the story?
 
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