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thoughts on Predator

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DrJohnGalt

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I'll just leave this here.
Edit: Also, check out the other Rage-aholic Cinema reviews for your 80s muscle-cheese fix.


 
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Bryank75

Banned
Excellent film and the sequel is massively underrated. They put most modern action films to shame. There is a great breakdown of the cinematography in Predator on youtube and how genius it is, using angles and everything to signal things to the viewer.
 

PanzerAzel

Member
For me it's second tier Arnold movie.

It feels like he wasn't in it/didn't do enough in it, and kinda just beat the Predator by fluke.

Always undermined my enjoyment of it.

T1, Commando, and Total Recall are better IMO.

Predator is still solid, but it's a better movie than it is an Arnold movie if that makes sense.

In fact as a kid I preferred Predator 2 and felt Danny Glover did a better job fighting the Predator than Arnold did. Again, I feel Arnold's win was a bit of a fluke. Danny Glover had the thing on the RUN.
“Want some candy?”

Arnold’s win was kind of the point. The Predator was, face to face, undefeatable. Dutch was only able to win by wit, exploitation of the Predator’s tech by turning its strength into a weakness, doing proper preparation before the fight, and a little bit of luck during it.

Even then he still barely managed to eek out a win which was far more satisfying because the odds were so against Dutch’s favor.
 

notseqi

Member
heh, 'CHWARZENEGGE'

Predator was and is great, Commando didn't age well due to the villains portrayal - will have made sense then but looking back he feels out of place for the time
 

Stuart360

Member
One of the best sci-fi action films of all time, and up there with T1, T2, and Total Recall as Arnies best film imo.
Its also a film that probably wouldnt be made today, with the overly masculine macho tough guys.

Also as Bryank said, shout out to Predator 2 that is vastly underrated, and people never gave a chance to at the time due to the lack of Arnie.
 

carlosrox

Banned
Does the movie really even have that much action in it? Feels kinda like a slow burn to me.

It's kinda like when people say Aliens is "an action movie". It has action IN it, not sure if I'd call it an actual action movie though.

Maybe I'm being crazy.
 

Guileless

Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
It's on the shortlist for the best action films of all time. I got to watch it when I was 10 or 11 at a pool party where all the moms got busy drinking wine and playing bridge and didn't pay attention to us watching an R rated movie.
 

MadAnon

Member
There are people that understand why Commando is the greatest Arnie movie.

and then there's Bender.
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Commando has aged terribly. Between Arnies acting and cheezy action - stormtrooper level enemies. Predator has aged 100x better.

I mean that whole begining of the movie where he plays a loving dad is cringe inducing amature hour.
 

nush

Gold Member
:pie_roffles:

Commando has aged terribly. Between Arnies acting and cheezy action - stormtrooper level enemies. Predator has aged 100x better.

I mean that whole begining of the movie where he plays a loving dad is cringe inducing amature hour.

And that's why it's so great.

Predator is the superior movie

Commando is the superior Arnie movie. The cheese IS the charm.
 

UncleMeat

Member
"Jeez, you got a big pussy....Jeez, you got a big pussy" :messenger_grinning_smiling:

Perfect action movie.

Also if anyone has the dvd I recommend the making of documentary. Hilarious Cocky Arnold story about a bicep measuring contest between him and The Body.
 

isual

Member
am i the only who was surprised with the alien the first time they watched this? i was probably 7 or 8 in the 90s
 

T8SC

Gold Member
Here we are again, guys... Just you's and me. Same kind of forum, same kind of topic. Real number 10, remember? Whole members, 32,000 men meme'd into meat... We walk out, just you's and me, nobody else. Right on top, huh? Not a meme... Not a fuckin' meme. You know, who ever got you, they'll come back again. And when he does, I'm gonna post your name all over him... I'm gonna post your name onto him!
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
Anyone who doesn't like this movie probably subsist on a steady diet of soy based products. This movie is a fucking masculine masterpiece that'll give you body hair just by quoting lines from it.
 

xrnzaaas

Member
It's one of my all-time favorites. Perfect cast, incredible soundtrack and slowly revealing the predator is super cool for first time watchers. This doesn't mean the movie isn't great for a rewatch. I must've seen it 10+ times. :)

It's a shame that unlike Terminator and Alien it didn't get a great sequel. Tbh the only other watchable flick from the series is Predators.
 
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Does the movie really even have that much action in it? Feels kinda like a slow burn to me.

It's kinda like when people say Aliens is "an action movie". It has action IN it, not sure if I'd call it an actual action movie though.

Maybe I'm being crazy.
Nah you are totally right, I think a lot of movies just have general misperception from people. Like Terminator 1 most people would say is an action movie, but honestly that shits like a horror flick. Its really unsettling to watch because the characters never, ever feel comfortable or safe (other than I guess the fucking scene).
 
Predator is so successful because a pack of alpha males led by the most alpha of them all are reduced to literal nothing one by one as they're stalked by something more alpha than they can possibly imagine. They smartly kept it invisible for most of the film to let your imagination take over, building up its credibility as it cuts its way through the commandos--after all, you wouldn't believe right from the start any old monster could cause Arnold--a monster of a man himself--to piss his pants hiding in the bushes.

By the end, when only Arnold is left, you believe in the mythos of the Predator. The final battle feels like a fight for humanity itself. What's so special about possibly the greatest action film of all time is that it isn't a straight power fantasy, instead a subversion our expectations of action hero tropes.

Nah you are totally right, I think a lot of movies just have general misperception from people. Like Terminator 1 most people would say is an action movie, but honestly that shits like a horror flick. Its really unsettling to watch because the characters never, ever feel comfortable or safe (other than I guess the fucking scene).
Similarly Predator is a slasher movie full of macho men instead of teenagers. But a good question is how much action is required to be an action movie.
 

Bombolone

Gold Member
Flipping through channels a few weeks back, and it was airing.
Watched the whole god damn thing.

Action movies do have this 'not to be taken seriously' baggage amongst cinema, but it is a legit A+ movie imo.

Writing, acting, cinematography, audio, pacing. Everything works together to make such a tense & engaging film.

Always get the chills when the boys light up the jungle seeking retribution for a downed bro.
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No ragrets everytime.
 
I love the whole franchise...

1. Predator - 5/5
2. Predators - 4/5
3. Predator 2 - 3.5/5
4. The Predator - 3.5/5

Also love the AvP movies

1. AVPR - 4/5
2. AVP - 3.5/5
 
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Commando has aged terribly. Between Arnies acting and cheezy action - stormtrooper level enemies. Predator has aged 100x better.

I mean that whole begining of the movie where he plays a loving dad is cringe inducing amature hour.
But it's intentional. Commando is as much a spoof as it is straight action. Not a wisp of seriousness in it runtime. Start of the film is hilarious, like a sitcom but with Arnold. It's 80s charm is unique, and Arnold at peak physique mowing down goons is a pleasure not a demerit.

Predator is timeless though, and the better/smarter film by several orders, I must agree. Don't stop Commando from being a guilty pleasure
 

iconmaster

Banned
If you reacted to the OP with any emote other than “Strength” which is taken from this film, you probably need to go (re)watch the film.

Also, how am I agreeing with a Mister Apoc post?
 

MetalAlien

Banned
I always feel I like Predator 1 more 2, right up until I start watching part 2 and then can't decide. I love them both. I also deeply love Robocop 2.
 

Hinedorf

Banned
Conan the Barbarian, Predator, and Terminator are the apex of Arnold's career and you can pick any 1 of those 3 and legit call it one of the best action movies of all time.
 

dan76

Member
In the 80's it felt like just another good but dumb action movie, now it's a almost a perfect film. It does exactly what it's supposed to do, it knows what it is, doesn't overstay it's welcome, doesn't shoehorn in some message. You learn everything about the characters from their actions and reactions to that situation. I can't really fault it.

Hollywood is incapable of making a film like this now.
 

Pimpbaa

Member
I seen it countless times. I will never get sick of this movie. I think I wore out my vhs copy back in the day.
 

Mattdaddy

Gold Member
It's a goddamn classic!! Predator, Aliens, Terminator, Die Hard, Rambo, Robocop, Conan...

They just don't make em like that anymore. That era of action movies was legendary. I'm a product of the 80's so I might be biased... but Hollywood just can't do it like that anymore for whatever reason.

Oh and an honorable mention to Red Dawn. It doesn't hold up as well as the above and I acknowledge if you go down the good movie checklist its pretty cheesy. But it's got a special place in my heart. WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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