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Thoughts on The Warriors... NOT a review.

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
As folks around here know I am one of the biggest fans of the movie The Warriors in this forum, it is definitely one of my favorite movies of all time, and with that in mind I was asked to comment on the game as it relates to the movie.

The short answer on this is:

If you're a fan of the movie? without a doubt.... you should play this game. If you know nothing about the movie? less so, but still interesting.

First off, The Warriors is not GTA... it's not open-ended and though it attempts to look at that way at certain points it's mission are definitely straight forward objectives... with bonus objectives that usually relate somehow.

Each mission is played in it's own distinct area which varies in size. While the core of the game is a beat em up there are a shitload of mini games within... pretty much everything is a mini game... picking locks, stealing radios out of cars, freeing handcuff'd gang members, tagging(painting gangs logo), it's all accomplished by various mini games, and it definitely helps to breakup things.

As I first mentioned at the core of the game it's a beat em up and you'll spend time beating up folks on the street, cops, other gangs, etc... the battle engine works well and allows you to deal with multiple attackers... the biggest problem I have with it though is that the running attack... it's not done very well and has this weird lag.. i.e. when you're running it's hard to time your attacks to hit folks. There's a rage mode that you can build up too that gives you the increased ability to bring the pain.

Mission variety is decent... sure most will have you end up fighting but you get a decent variety in the situations that end up having you fight that work well...

As a Warriors fan I'm really digging the fact that the game starts 3 months before the movie... so you're getting alot of storyline that leads UP to what goes on at the meeting and afterwards... in addition you can unlock and do bonus missions that are flashbacks to how the Warriors first started, how original members joined, etc... and other optional missions that take place just outside the hangout... (I cannot do that damn get $100 optional mission... I need to get away from the cops and mug a few folks I think...

Many of the original voice actors who are still alived returned to do their voices.. the BIGGEST omission in my opnion is a huge one... from what I briefly heard it doesn't seem like David Patrick Kelly who plays Luther.. the Rogue who causes all the problems for the Warriors is doing his characters voice... that's crazy... and whomever they got to do his voice for the character? Not even close. As most fans of the movie probably know the Radio DJ played by Lynne Thigpen passed away in 2003. Her voice alike however does a good job though. BTW the person doing Cyrus? Hmmmm ok, but could be better.. wonder why Roger Hill didn't return....

In between missions when you return to the Warriors hangout there's a radio that's playing various songs(and actually has multiple stations you can change), in addition Lynne Thigpen voice'alike will come on and give you various updates on gang activities... nice touch... often a piece of the update will relate to a mission you just completed or are about to go in to.

All the various gangs that you saw in the movie get representation... Riffs, Baseball Furies, oh yeah can't forget about the Orphans and Deborah Van Valkenburgh as Mercy... omg others...

My biggest beef right now is the fact that sometimes the camera is too close to the characters... those of us who suffer from virtual sickness know that a camera really close can cause problems... and last night... man it was kickin my ass.. but for some reason today I'm doing better... I think turning up the brightness within the game helped....

Oh yeah this is a M rated game... blood, lots of swearing, etc....

The gang orders piece works well.. depending on what you're doing you'll want your gang to follow you, scatter, wait... mayhem(tear up everything), etc.... at first I thought it was going to be gimmicky... but it works well.

Music is as to be expected very fitting for the game, much of it pulled from the movie and/or at the very least seemingly scored to sound like the movie.

This is not an attempt to be a review, I don't do those anymore... and I'm sure I've missed something but really fans of the movie have GOT to check this game out...

I'll edit this if I remember something I wanted to point out but forgot.... maybe...
 
Nice review...I think...then again...I'm not sure what you meant...when you said...it's not a review...I must be short of breath...I seem...to be...taking....pauses...at...odd...moments....huff...puff
 
demi said:
Nice review...I think...then again...I'm not sure what you meant...when you said...it's not a review...I must be short of breath...I seem...to be...taking....pauses...at...odd...moments....huff...puff

As I age... I have to take... breaks... instead of typing... full... sentences....
 
You can move the camera out a little bit. It helps slightly.

I love the prequel nature of some of the game. Nice idea. I'm still a little awed by the fact this game is here given what a nerdy, no name cult flick this was back in the day.
 
I may be going against the norm here but I am not really loving the game. Infact it does not play AT ALL like I thought it would I was really expecting something completely different. I got the game Friday and played for about 3 hours at which time I got bored. I now have my hands full with PES5 but I will go back to the game soon, maybe even tomorrow once a mate comes around to play the co-op stuff (which was the reason I got the game in the first place). I am liking the game but not really loving it like I though I would...
 
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Keyser Soze said:
I may be going against the norm here but I am not really loving the game. Infact it does not play AT ALL like I thought it would I was really expecting something completely different. I got the game Friday and played for about 3 hours at which time I got bored. I am liking the game but not really loving it like I though I would...

I feel the same way. I think that it's a pretty well put together game and I can understand why others might enjoy it, but it's just not grabbing me.
 
I've played just the first few missions but it seems to have alot of potential. I'm already impressed. The intro was awesome, and the character interactions are really great. I like how everyone you pass is always murmuring something. It is very GTA in style. By that I mean just the way everything is presented, not that it's open ended or that you can steal cars or anything.

The only thing I have an issue with so far is the controls. The acceleration seems a bit too much, and it seems like your character runs around too fast, which makes it easy to overshoot things. Also you tend to get "locked onto" people for too long. Sometimes you want to move away and fight someone else, and you're still looking at some dead dude on the ground.
 
Musashi Wins! said:
You can move the camera out a little bit. It helps slightly.

Really I'll have to see if I can figure out how to do that.

Zaxxon said:
The only thing I have an issue with so far is the controls. The acceleration seems a bit too much, and it seems like your character runs around too fast, which makes it easy to overshoot things. Also you tend to get "locked onto" people for too long. Sometimes you want to move away and fight someone else, and you're still looking at some dead dude on the ground.

Yup that running issue is my beef too.
 
Poison says, "FUCK YOU FINAL FIGHTCLUB!"

God damn The Warriors rocks. I'm astounded Japanese development houses formerly known for quality urban setting beat'em ups were incapable of delivering a game of this quality in the third dimension. Fairly large areas to roam around, multiple enemies, and lots of stuff to do.

I've got to buy this game! :(

Rockstar can sit at the right hand of Omega Force. Much respect! *thumps chest*
 
If that isn't a recommendation....

You know, it does kick the absolute crap out of Namco and Capcom and Sega's recent beu's though. I have the receipts to prove it.
 
Just started playing it via co-op and I'm liking it so far, but God damn is the screen merging/splitting annoying. It sounded like a cool feature before I got the game but the execution is pretty bad.

It'll split or merge without any reason whatsoever. Merging sometimes just because you turned the camera towards your friend and he was apparently close enough even if you didn't approah him at all. Splitting is really abrupt and you lose track of your character for a second, which is extremely bad in the middle of a rumble. I'd also prefer if it split horizontally instead but nooo...
 
Man lots of different things going on between the fights... chase sequences, cinematic chases, outrunning stuff, and people... trashing cars..... and the flashback missions... crazy... I'm diggin the hell outta this game... too bad running attacks are still weird to time... and yeah pulling the camera back has put an end to my virtual sickness concerns...

This is a g-g-g-g-g-g-ood, f-f-f-f--fun... game f-f--f-f-f*ckers! Hi Hats!!! k-k-k--kk-illl them! ;)
 
I was impressed that in the intro they follow the movie and have one of the characters call the other a faggot. It takes alot of guts for a developer to do something like that. The inclusion of it really adds to the atmosphere. These are not nice guys. They're rough around the edges. Maybe I'm wrong, I haven't played GTA that much, but I don't think even GTA has language that abrasive.
 
Considering the movie is probably in my top five of all time, I couldn't be happier with how the game has turned out. I'm having a blast with it so far. That said, I can see this game causing a lot of controversy because of how over the top a lot of the content is. Hilary Clinton is gonna shit a brick.

Also, a quick question. Is there anyway to get your optional mission objectives to show up on the radar? I'm trying to get all the tags, but it's kind of hard when I have absolutely no idea where they are.
 
This game is fantastic! R* is gods gift to gameing, always pumping out great games. So much fun and it really draws me in. I first rented it for my xbox which died today(fuck you MS!) Then I went back to get it for my PS2, the game is better on the PS2 because it is easier to give commans with the PS2. Plus I hate the xbox controler, my hands hurt after an hour.

Jugendstil said:
Also, a quick question. Is there anyway to get your optional mission objectives to show up on the radar? I'm trying to get all the tags, but it's kind of hard when I have absolutely no idea where they are.


Don't think so, just have to look around. Some are hard to find though.
 
Zaxxon said:
I was impressed that in the intro they follow the movie and have one of the characters call the other a faggot. It takes alot of guts for a developer to do something like that. The inclusion of it really adds to the atmosphere. These are not nice guys. They're rough around the edges. Maybe I'm wrong, I haven't played GTA that much, but I don't think even GTA has language that abrasive.

As long as R* is printing money on a daily basis, then they can get away with anything. (At least until retard lawyers find something tenuous to sink their claws into and retailers attempt to make political statements, anyway)
 
I've got to buy myself a copy of this game.

I'm sure Rockstar will sell a shitload on reputation alone, but this is high quality stuff and any fan of the beat'em up genre should god damned well secure a copy and send a message to developers that this is the sort of content we want.

God damn, I fantasize about a Streets of Fire beat'em up / action game now.

It's out of context, but a Create A Warrior mode would have been funny just to have Sho'Nuff running around beating up Baseball Furies. :P
 
Just saw the movie for the first time last night, and enjoyed it quite a bit. I'll pick the game up when it drops to $20.
 
Was thinking about picking this up, but I've read that the block function is bound to the black button on the XBOX version... Anyone have any problems using it this way?
 
Himuro said:
Thanks Darien. I watched the movie the other day and I wanted to discuss it with you.

Sure you can post a question here or PM me...
 
Musashi Wins! said:
I love the hangout. It's great getting into it with your own gang.

I just discovered you can pick up the radio and carry it around beatbox style. Getting into a brawl with your own gang is hilarious, they beat the crap out of me.

And I just figured out that you can work out on the bottom level of the hideout.
 
Himuro said:
1. Did Cleon die?
2. That Rogue got killed right?
3. Did that guy really see what happened?
4. Who was the guy that got ran over by a train? The guy who saw the rogue kill Cyrus?
5. That fight in the bathroom owned.
6. Don't you agree that Snow is the baddest Warrior next to Swan?

Yes, assumedly
Yes, assumedly
No
Fox, no
Not a question
Ajax, baby, other than his rampant stupidity

Masai's the baddest motherfucker in the entire film, tho.
 
Himuro said:
1. Did Cleon die?
2. That Rogue got killed right?
3. Did that guy really see what happened?
4. Who was the guy that got ran over by a train? The guy who saw the rogue kill Cyrus?
5. That fight in the bathroom owned.
6. Don't you agree that Snow is the baddest Warrior next to Swan?

I have not watched the Director's Cut yet so I have to answer these based on the regularly release...

We can probably assume that #1 and #2 the answers are yes... unfortunately... we're never given a clear indication either way, except that we know Cleon goes down fighting... and Luther does not... hehe Luther.. he's played 2 characters named Luther... here and in 48 Hrs...

I'm not sure what you're asking in #3... Luther is the one that shot Cyrus, even though he thin tries to pin it on the Warriors, but yes from the way the movie is shown it looks like Fox did see that Luther shot Cyrus... unfortunately Fox hits it off with an oncoming subway train later...

5. & 6... Yes... the fight in the bathroom is great and in terms of fighing ability I put Snowball and Cochise behind Swan.

EDIT:

Yes Matlock I'll concede that Ajax kicks ass too.. be he's got a big f'n mouth... that gets him and the gang in situations they don't need to be in... even in the game.
 
I didn't even remember what this movie was until I heard the 'Warriors....come out and playyyyy...' from the commercial. Then I remembered that I kinda dug this movie as a kid. I'll give it a play.
 
Schattenjagger said:
really fun game.. but its more gta than double dragon..

And thank goodness. Brawlers kind of needed to evolve, even ten years ago...moving left to right and whacking on anything that moves might have been good for the arcade, but not for a $50 no frills home version. I'm glad they put story modes and strategy stuff in beat em ups nowadays...gives them replay value
 
My roommate got this game on PS2 and loves it, but I found it to be way too slow, plus I hate the movie so there's no nostalgia value. The depth of the tribute is impressive, though.
 
Himuro said:
Oh, there's a directors cut that has info on all of this stuff? Awesome.

I'm not sure how much extra is one the "Ultimate" version.

In the version of the movie I "bought", there was a guy near the end that saw what really happened supposedly.
Oh right, right, forgot about him, the one who told the Riffs what he saw.

Which brings me to my next point. At the end of the movie Swan asks Luther why he killed Cyrus. How the hell did Swan know?

I think that's a plot hole, Swan shouldn't know... I don't think Fox got a chance to tell him before he died.

Who is Masai?

I have no idea who Matlock is referring to.
 
Where the hell is the stupid last Orphans tag? This blows, I don't want to redo this one again. When is gamefaqs gonna have the cheats up, we all know Rockstar loaded this game with secrets. Got it. Love this game. Reliving childhood fantasies brings me back. Most of the graphitti pieces in this game are real, some of the greatest all-city writers that have been dead for a while.
 
Game of the year. I can't believe how much content they packed into this game. If Drinky were around, he would testify that I won't shut up about about the game.

It's violent, vulgar, completely amoral, and there's a shitload of variety to it. I can only hope that the next GTA takes some advice from this game.
 
White Man said:
Game of the year. I can't believe how much content they packed into this game. If Drinky were around, he would testify that I won't shut up about about the game.

It's violent, vulgar, completely amoral, and there's a shitload of variety to it. I can only hope that the next GTA takes some advice from this game.
Indeed, the next GTA could benefit greatly from things like the gang controls, actual co-op(!), breaking into stores/cars, gritty atmosphere and especially the fighting system. God damn does the fighting system rock.

Take advantage of the M rating Rockstar!
 
The more I played this game the more I fuckin loved it... there's just SO much variety in between the fights and in the fights themselves.. it's crazy.. buy this game people, it truly deserves good sales...
 
raYne said:
Indeed, the next GTA could benefit greatly from things like the gang controls, actual co-op(!), breaking into stores/cars, gritty atmosphere and especially the fighting system. God damn does the fighting system rock.

Take advantage of the M rating Rockstar!

There's also a ton of characters on screen at once. And you can hit your own gang members, too. I like doing a running slab into a group of people and seeing bodies fly everywhere.

Mugging people is fun, too.
 
Yeah, I didn't want my post to drag on so I counted the mugging as part of the fighting system. :)

There's nothing like walking up behind someone and beating the shit outa them and mugging them only to get a dollar (wtf!). So you beat 'em up some more and throw them through a store window and proceed to loot the store. :lol

I love little touches like the ability to beat someone up, take his hat and wear it around until you find a nicer hat a mug someone else for it. Or things like how you can break open cash registers or parking meters and take the money out. Plus the supers and power moves? Jesus...

Rockstar would be fools to not take some things from the game and put it in the next GTA like they did when they took some (aiming/stealth kills) from Manhunt and added it to San Andreas.
 
I like how inventive all the minigames are. Usually, I groan when I'm faced with some tired button-timing garbage in other games. With The Warriors, I look forward to them. The spray-painting in particular is awesome.
 
Minotauro said:
I like how inventive all the minigames are. Usually, I groan when I'm faced with some tired button-timing garbage in other games. With The Warriors, I look forward to them. The spray-painting in particular is awesome.

It was incredibly how BADLY I sucked at spray painting... I've gotten much better at it but there is this one particular W design that you come across sometimes where I'll get stuck at the bottom of the second V spot and it just won't come up it keeps getting jammed, I have to cancel out completely and come back in..... the spray paint contest was a cool mission I really liked that one... and what came afterwards... I love the slow motion jumps... they remind me of how the Warriors had to bust out of the Lizzies place in the movie...

Speaking of beating up folks and taking their hat.... the optional mission to beat up the stolen costume guy... haha I love how that head comes flying off with the first few hits.. :lol
 
Holy shit we hated the rooftop escape after the spray paint contest! It took us like 10+ tries because we're playing on co-op which reduces your forward view to almost nill at some points. Also, player 2 would always be left behind right at the beginning because the character stops on the stairs during the cutscene right before it. Meaning the Hi Hats would already be on your ass before the mission even started. :lol

Plus there's no slow motion jumps on co-op. :(
 
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