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[deeptech]

Wait...

"Declining Single Player Game Sales..."

Errr...
........

Haha, these corporately minded fellows see a decline whenever this year is statistically worse than last one, even if it's 0000.1%, and doesn't matter if last year was best ever.
But perhaps they just want to push some surveillance crap into games and whatnot, they're a business men and politicians after all, not artists or visionaries.

 

[mopspear]

SHUT UP

 

[seething left]

He is a fucking idiot. how far have the mighty fallen.
This is the solution to more single player games. it always was
you know what it is? QUALITY

Why did you had to kick me in the feels like that?

 

[RCX]

My steam library alone is enough to last me until I die.

I'd replay every single player game I have before I would even dream of using his fucking "metaverse".

 

[\m/etalStorm]

I asked AI to tell me the truth about the so-called "Fortnite Ecosystem". Apparently the future of gaming.

Fortnite's "creator economy" is a grotesque parody of meritocracy—a Skinner box for the terminally online, where Epic dangles the illusion of wealth while systematically exploiting the desperate, the naive, and the talentless.

1. The Streamer Grift – The biggest "creators" aren't designers; they're algorithm-hacking narcissists who stumbled into viral fame by screaming into a mic while playing the same recycled Box Fight #69420 map. Epic props them up as "success stories" to keep the dream alive, but the reality is that 99% of creators make pennies while the top 1% (who were already famous) vacuum up the real money.
2. The Engagement Farm – Epic doesn't want good maps; they want addicting ones. The more mindless, dopamine-drip garbage (reskinned zombie survival, low-effort prop hunt clones, etc.), the better. Why? Because engagement metrics don't care about quality—they care about retention. The worse the content, the more kids mindlessly queue into the next match, and the more ad revenue & V-Buck purchases Epic extracts.
3. The False Promise of "Passive Income" – Epic lures in starry-eyed kids with the lie that "anyone can get rich making maps!" while quietly ensuring that only established influencers and UEFN-savvy sweats can actually compete. The Discover tab is a rigged casino—most maps die in obscurity while Epic's chosen few get algorithmically shoved into millions of faces.
4. The Exploitation of Free Labor – Why pay professional developers when you can outsource content creation to your own player base?
5. The Death of Real Creativity – Originality is punished. The system rewards low-effort, trend-chasing slop because that's what the ADHD-riddled Fortnite audience clicks on. Why build something unique when you can just reskin the same tired Red vs. Blue map for the thousandth time and watch the cash roll in?

Conclusion: Fortnite's creator ecosystem is a dystopian content mill disguised as empowerment. It's not about fostering talent—it's about keeping the engagement machine fed with cheap, disposable slop while Epic pockets the real money.
Tim Sweeney's "metaverse" is just a digital sweatshop with a brighter color palette.

 

[rkofan87]

Please kill me. This is dystopian as hell and will make me quit gaming

Epic's Tim Sweeney: "We can build an economy that's bigger and better than the one in Roblox"

Epic Games boss on Roblox, monetization for Fortnite creators, training AI without permission and taking on Steam

www.thegamebusiness.com

wrong make better sp games.

 

[Fafalada]

Well obviously he is offering that but even then I think the success in Fortnite been very mixed. Does anyone give a shit about that Minecraft, or racing, or music game they built into it? It seems like it has found its success as a shitty RPO virtual world.

Yea without a doubt, the cross branding does a lot more for Fortnite success than it does for any of the brands participating.
But I guess hope springs eternal.

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

I always wonder how much money it exactly takes for humans to ascend to pure Corporate Bot where even their language becomes perverted.

 

[Generic]

He's right. The market for singleplayer games is oversaturated.

 

[MikeM]

Next he is going to say the Epic games store is #1. I swear these CEOs are just their own brand's fart smellers without any ability to see past the wet shit.

Its like somehow if they message something enough that they firmly believe that everyone will believe it at some point (ignoring politics).

Also- Fromsoft laughs at his comment. Put out good single player games, get money.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

This guy should focus on fixing the stutters with UE5, instead of spilling so much nonsense about some metaverse crap.

Thread over.

Unreal Engine is the biggest scam in gaming.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

He's right. The market for singleplayer games is oversaturated.

It's oversaturated with shitty single player games.

 

[yogaflame]

I hate Tim Sweeney so much

He is out of touch with gamers. By the way, I only love Sydney Sweeney.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Yet every good single player game kills it

 

[j0hnnix]

 

[Danny22]

Isn't Roblox already sort of doing this?

I say all the best to the metaverse plans, clearly the younger generation likes it.

 

[Loxus]

I dont even know what those words mean individually, and you join them together, i get more lost.

I think games should go back to costing $49. The prices now are just too much for impulse buys

I decided to ask Chatgpt what an interoperable metaverse ecosystem means and this is what it said.

I dont even get all the hate he's getting, cause he's got a valid point.

In the context of video games, an interoperable metaverse ecosystem refers to a connected digital universe where players, assets, and experiences can seamlessly move between different games, platforms, and virtual worlds developed by different companies. Here's a breakdown of what this means:

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Interoperability
This is the core idea: different systems, games, and platforms can work together. In gaming terms, it means:

Your avatar, inventory, or achievements can travel across games (e.g., using the same character skin in Fortnite, Minecraft, and a racing game).

Digital items are portable, often through blockchain/NFTs or standardized asset formats.

Game engines and backends are compatible, using shared standards or APIs for physics, rendering, identity, etc.

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Metaverse Ecosystem
A metaverse ecosystem is a shared, persistent, immersive virtual environment where players socialize, play, build, and trade. Applied to gaming, this includes:

Social hubs connecting different game worlds (e.g., Roblox, VRChat).

Cross-game economies where currency or items earned in one game can be used in another.

Unified player identity, so your profile, friends, and digital reputation are consistent across worlds.

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Example in Games
Imagine a player buys a rare sword in one MMORPG. In an interoperable metaverse ecosystem, they might:

Use that same sword in another RPG built by a different developer.

Sell or trade it in a shared marketplace (e.g., using blockchain).

Bring their avatar and achievements into new games without creating a new account or losing progress.

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Technologies Enabling This
Open standards (e.g., OpenXR, glTF)

Blockchain/NFTs for asset ownership

Universal identity systems (like decentralized IDs)

Cloud-based platforms (for cross-device and persistent world hosting)

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Why It Matters
Enhances player freedom and creativity

Drives developer collaboration and cross-promotion

Opens new monetization models and digital economies

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In short, an interoperable metaverse ecosystem in video games envisions a future where virtual experiences are connected, not isolated—giving players more agency and continuity across their digital life.

 

[KXVXII9X]

This isn't why I game. I understand that this is more popular with younger generations. That is fine. What isn't fine is saying the solution to single player games is to get it more socially and economically connected. I don't point my nose up in the air at new ideas and give them an honest shot, but I don't want this future. I get making a game is riskier than ever, but I think forcing social gaming into single player experiences will just piss people off. I also say this as someone who is a big believer in Fortnite despite not being into those kinds of games. I can appreciate its strengths. I do think that they are trying to catch lightning in a bottle again and try to pigeonhole every game into that model and I don't think it will be the right solution.

 

[thismeinteil]

 

[Jinxed]

Just release good games

 

[Quasicat]

He's not wrong, but he is ignoring the crucial first step. You need Fortnite. Or GTA Online. Or something like that. Something that is hugely and enormously popular that you can expand on, with the goal of retaining players. You can't just build this from the jump. We've also talked endlessly about how difficult it is to do that.

Like if I was EA I would not make Titanfall 3, I would build a Titanfall 3 game into Apex. But if I don't have Apex, that's not an option.

You've nailed it! Every company has been trying to get the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, but Epic found it with Fortnite. I can see Epic's point of view; it would be really easy to put everything in that basket since it makes so much money and, since it's entirely online, can be completely controlled.

 

[KXVXII9X]

The solution is more games like Elden Ring. Solid mechanics, quality music/setting/atmosphere, top tier boss designs, rewarding exploration,huge build variety etc etc. Quality,innovative,thats whats needed for single player games.

The issue is not everyone agrees on what is quality and innovative. I see some comments saying, make it like Elden Ring, but that isn't my kind of game. What I may prefer as innovative, and quality may bore someone to tears.

Maybe a better way of phrasing it is appealing to niches more and not trying to make a game for everyone. That doesn't mean make every game as inaccessible as possible either or gatekeep. The gaming industry has broadened so much. There are so many types of gamers now. I do think music, atmosphere, boss design, exploration, and build variety are great things to have though. Even some kinds of games I am into looked so derivative from the showcases.

 

[Laptop1991]

So in other words Multiplayer then charge for MTX etc on top, declining SP games are due to constant price rises and the fact they are not worth the said price rises as the games are mid level at best, gamers are not going to buy new expensive games that don't excite them that go on Game pass day 1.

 

[T-0800]

A great single player game sells more now than ever before. I don't get it.

 

[SomeNorseGuy]

Less talking more showing Tim. Develop an insanely deep, dark and mechanical rich crpg in Fortnite with a distinction artstyle and even I will install that cancerous shit.

But no amount of crossovers, concerts or skins will attract me to your shitty platform...and certainly not your offering of basic slop games.

Does the industry at large suffer from some kind of mental barrier that prevents them from being introspective. Because maybe, and I'm going out on a limb here, that's where the problem lies.

 

[Jinxed]

declining singleplayer game sales

???? Didn't we just saw recently how well Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 sold and last time I checked that game was SP game.

Brand new IP, good game, sells. Who would of thought

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Thread over.

Unreal Engine is the biggest scam in gaming.

Unreal Engine is not a scam. We wouldn't have Expedition 33 and many other games without it. I wish other engines would just take Unreal's pricing model and let other studios use their engine.