Titanfall has maximum player count of 12 (alongside AI) [Respawn comments post #558]
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Dreams-Visions
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I mean it could all be a vast Doritos conspiracy. Perhaps Ballmer is sitting somewhere in Microsoft HQ like Emperor Palpatine waiting for their insidious plan to sell Titanfall to reach fruition. I just haven't heard from anyone who got to play the game suggesting that the game is anything less than excellent.
Now who's speculating?
You can't call me out for my "facts" and then post your "facts". That's not how this works.
So show me proof, like I did.
staticneuron
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It is amazing how negative people on GAF can be at times. I mean, I understand how people love large scale battle but it only works when everything is designed around that concept. If they have a specific size in mind, obviously they are going to design the stages around that size and play test it alot.
This is one of those things where it is just silly to complain about a studio filled with established designers making a choice that they feel will work.
This is one of those things where it is just silly to complain about a studio filled with established designers making a choice that they feel will work.
And that's why so many games struggle, why so many games have trouble with budgets or keeping players entertained, they try a jack of all trades, master of none mentality. People want every kind of shooter experience in this game, rather than a singular tight and focused style of gameplay.
Many of these folks wanting 12v12 or higher, they haven't even really thought about map sizes, map control, team play, player engagement or player spawns.
Dude, I can't tell if you're trolling or being serious at this point.
My bad, I thought it was obvious.
Hint: There is a sliiiight size difference between a soldier and a mech. Or 6 soldiers and a mech even. That's a lot to render when you add up to 12 of them, plus level AI.
xHunter
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OK thanks. So it was actually 4 matches. Well than these is nothing to worry for me when i buy this in PC.
So what is it on 360? 3v3?
GuitarAtomik
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Ok, you're definitely trolling. Well done sir lol.
1v1 duels.
Turned Based as well.
fuzzyreactor
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i don't really understand what is going on in this topic. I'm not even looking forward to TF much and 6 vs 6 isn't a big deal. If anything, it's more likely to be more balanced and have better map design
Joust remake.
Caayn
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Console wars
Actually, you have to download their Shootatar.
People have different preferences. Some people like a really hectic, cramped game. You don't have to design the entire game for these people, but how would having 12v12 as a server option be a really bad thing?
GillianSeed79
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I get what you are saying, but I think part of the misunderstanding here is people are approaching what they've seen of the game through the lens of past experiences or traditional competitive MP that we've seen before.
To me it sounds like they are trying to craft of kind of traditional single player FPS setpieces into a purely mp game. Whether or not they succeed with that depends on how the game ends up being.
I'm envisioning something like Killzone's warzone game type but instead of a generic mix and match of various mp modes that rotate during a round, Titanfall will frame it within something that you might expect to see in say in a SP campaign level.
I'm probably completely wrong, but I'm imagining something like a short cutscene playing out while a match is waiting to load explaining your objectives framed around actual story elements followed by the match itself. Maybe it's something like you have to rescue a VIP or something, but in order to do that you have approach an enemy's base or compound, weaken its defenses and capture it before trying to rescue the VIP and getting to an extraction point.
Right there you have traditional TDM, king of the hill and capture the flag-style objectives
All the while it sounds like you are going to have this AI on the battlefield that feeds into the gameplay loop. I'm probably blowing smoke out my ass and the game may actually turn out to be completely different or suck, but I think a lot of us are just approaching this with preconceived notions of what a 6 vs. 6/12 vs.12 mp experience is or is supposed to be.
He makes really good points, but it is really funny in the very opening clip playing behind him it looks like there are a lot of individual players (because of the name markers* over their heads). At least going forward I and others will know this.
*yes I know that some of the names are MILITIA aka AI bots.
Caayn
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Spot on as expected from Matt.
I do think that Banjo Tooie is better than Banjo Kazooie.
digoutyoursoul
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ITT; A bunch of people who have not played any FPS games in their lives and if they have then they are more likely than not completely awful at them because things like map design, weapon balance, movement speed are all as difficult of concepts for them to grasp as the concept of player size being different for different games.
We should all just have free reign to go into any thread and start bitching about player counts just for the hell of it. This games only single player? Fuck are we still on the Ps1 with these limits? I should be able to play with 50 other people in this game, this is bullshit.
We should all just have free reign to go into any thread and start bitching about player counts just for the hell of it. This games only single player? Fuck are we still on the Ps1 with these limits? I should be able to play with 50 other people in this game, this is bullshit.
QuicheFontaine
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Very well explained by Matt. Particularly the bit about bots being effectively players that neither need nor want to call down Titans (allowing all the ACTUAL players to do so whenever they like!), which I hadn't really given any thought to. Surely we can wrap the thread up at this point?
It only took 40+ pages, but it seems like everyone is lightening up.
Pfft. You need to upgrade to Next-Gen 100v100 pages.
This is only the beginning, man. We still have two months of marketing and a review thread to get to.
GuitarAtomik
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The review thread is going to be fucking bonkers. Like Skrillex bass drop played through a subwoofer the size of a SETI satellite dish directly in to an echo chamber bonkers.
Again, BF last i checked had Choppers and Tanks in gameplay with 64 players and i don't know if you notice but there is a sliiiiiiight size difference between a soldier and a fucking Tank. Mechs are vehicles at the end of the day and nothing more.
Bravo!
Honestly though to the people that love high player counts, just stick to BF and Planetside. "Problem" solved.
I bet you and your peers in the industry read threads like this and either facepalm or break out laughing right?
rudieboy77
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Damn I made a post like on page 4 last night, this train just kept rolling. You know whats fun? 64 players on a CoD 4 map.... Especially that one on the ship, talk about a ship storm.
What really annoys me about Titanfall is that we're only two months from release, and the developers are just being so damn secretive. Hell, we don't know how the game plays at all other than a few pre-scripted gameplays and some trailer footage featuring the new Titans. We have no idea how the "AI" is supposed to work. I assume they're just supposed to run out and take objectives and die to human players (like in MOBAs), or I could be wrong. Maybe they're suppose to actually kill people. Hell if I know. We don't know any of the story at all, not even how it's supposed to play into the multiplayer aspect of the game.
Christ, we don't even know who's making the 360 version! We haven't even seen what it looks like on the Xbox One, let alone the 360! What if the current gen version ends up being poor in quality? No one knows the capabilities of these devs, or the extent of the quality control Respawn's doing.
We're getting all these promises of "Oh, we're going to re-define the FPS genre," and "We know what's best for our vision, just trust us." I'm not trying to rag on the game or anything, I want this game to succeed. We all want this game to succeed. I'm just getting very wary about all of the promises that Respawn is making. I don't want another Aliens: Colonial Marines on my hands. This game has been under tight wraps for so long, I'm starting to get sick of it, really.
Christ, we don't even know who's making the 360 version! We haven't even seen what it looks like on the Xbox One, let alone the 360! What if the current gen version ends up being poor in quality? No one knows the capabilities of these devs, or the extent of the quality control Respawn's doing.
We're getting all these promises of "Oh, we're going to re-define the FPS genre," and "We know what's best for our vision, just trust us." I'm not trying to rag on the game or anything, I want this game to succeed. We all want this game to succeed. I'm just getting very wary about all of the promises that Respawn is making. I don't want another Aliens: Colonial Marines on my hands. This game has been under tight wraps for so long, I'm starting to get sick of it, really.
Deus Ex Machina
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Make it 12 vs 12.. and take the bots out.
While I am fine with the other stuff. The lack of info about the 360 version is bothering me at this point. I highly prefer playing with a controller.
Not sure why you care about the story in a MP shooter, you should assume there's nothing significant there story wise imo.
I do absolutely understand this sentiment, Titanfall is a game that we need to know more about as soon as human possibly. I'm assuming they're going to start the marketing blitz any week now.
I'm sure EA would like to do everything possible to take the heat off of Battlefield 4 still being in Beta 2 months after launch.
Sword Of Doom
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I mean it shouldn't even have to be explained. It's 6 v 6 and that's it. These guys clearly know how to make a fun multiplayer game. They've done it before and it seems like they're going to deliver again. Just cause BF4 is fun with 64 players it doesn't mean every other game needs to have a high player count.
The one part that is a question for me are the bots. I personally don't want to play against bots in a MP game. How they're incorporated Into the game I don't know so I'm not gonna say it's gonna suck just cause there's bots. I have heard from people who aren't really good at MP shooters who say that they felt empowered playing Titan Fall because they weren't constantly dying. So if the bots serve the purpose of making the game more accessible, then I think Respawn might end up alienating the hard core shooter crowd.
NullPointer
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Spinning Plates
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Feel a bit let down with 6 v 6 basically because of the Titan dynamic. If one team has 2 Titan's in play then that leaves only 4 player controlled humans to seek out.