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[Kindekuma]

Having a pulse right now is one thing. Going 15 minutes without one is another thing.

Hoping for the best but preparing for the worse.

 

[Lifejumper]

Man I hope she doesn't have brain damage if she survives.

She was such an sharp woman..

 

[MrS]

TMZ update

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/812429547211587584

A New Hope

 

[Yoshichan]

Hope

 

[VaultBoy101]

This makes me want to cry. I don't even have the emotional fortitude to be cautiously optimistic at this point.

 

[the_id]

She's going to make it guys. I have hope.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

A New Hope

Bruh

 

[Maxim726X]

15 minutes without a pulse?

;_;

Yeah, I don't want to be a buzzkill here... But I think people should temper expectations here.

I hope she pulls through and completely recovers, but that's not likely.

 

[WeAreStarStuff]

Reddit post from a doctor:



and the recent TMZ update confirms that's her status atm.

Same exact sequence happened with my father. Her brain has been too deprived of oxygen.

 

[Valhelm]

A pulse is not cause to celebrate just yet. Still unknown how long her brain went without oxygen while she stopped breathing.

Would 15 minutes without a heartbeat cause brain death?

 

[Shahadan]

Yeah her brain is going to be damaged after that long.

 

[Patrick S.]

Come on you stupid midi-chlorians, don't let her die yet

Please live, Carrie, it's not your time yet

 

[StopMakingSense]

I don't understand why people aren't lashing out at TMZ for posting updates? Isn't that a violation of HIPAA too?

The medical staff are the ones who would be in violation, if TMZ's source, not TMZ.

 

[KRod-57]

TMZ update

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/812429547211587584

That doesn't sound good.. that sounds like the kind of thing that means permanent damage.. but what do I know

 

[tiredheadcrab]

I really hope she pulls through. This looks grim.

 

[Wagram]

15 minutes without a pulse is very, very bad to say the least, even if she pulls through.

 

[Coldsun]

I don't understand why people aren't lashing out at TMZ for posting updates? Isn't that a violation of HIPAA too?

TMZ is under no obligation to conform to HIPAA standards.

 

[Bear Force One]

Newsflash: No one fucking cares what memes you don't like. This thread is about Carrie.

 

[iammeiam]

Wow. My father passed of a heart attack a few years ago. They couldn't really do anything, though you can't help but live your life wondering what if.

I'm sorry to hear that; we got really lucky, and have gone over the number of coincidences involved that could have gone the other way if slight factors had changed.

That's really nice to hear, best wishes to your dad.

Damn. Sorry you had to experience that, glad for your family and your dad though

Thanks; it's an awkward thing to bring up I guess I'm just firmly on team "not leaping to medical conclusions no matter how bad it looks" at the moment and was trying to contextualize. Until a medical professional makes a statement one way or the other, I've given up searching for good or bad signs or trying to read into every little bit of information.

Were there any complications it is he more or less back to normal now?

He got to fly home a couple weeks ago, and is cleared to work half-days now. He still has a lot of PT, has to use a special pillow under his seatbelt to prevent injury, has slightly slurred speech and his vision is a lot worse than it was but all things considered he's in pretty good shape. He's still himself, which was the big worry at the beginning.

 

[Dominator]

If you're not breathing for 15 minutes... That update brings me no hope and makes me feel worse. She's not going to recover with all of her faculties.

 

[mercenar1e]

Would 15 minutes without a heartbeat cause brain death?

without sufficient oxygen and a pulse? yes.

 

[Dahellisdat]

Would 15 minutes without a heart-beat cause brain death?

Depends on how adequate the CPR was and if it was administered at the right time for long enough.

 

[RecRoulette]

15 minutes? Yikes.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Newsflash: No one fucking cares what memes you don't like. This thread is about Carrie.

Keep calm and Carrie on.

 

[Tace]

God knows I want her to be alright, but 15 minutes without oxygen is going to impact her extremely negatively even if she survives. She won't be the same anymore. I really hope the CPR done on the plane was done by professionals and the damage will be minimal

 

[Already Torn]

Depends on how adequate the CPR was and if it was administered at the right time for long enough.

Yeah. If there were several medical staff on board there's still a chance she wasn't just sitting there for 15 min.

 

[purseowner]

Keep calm and Carrie on.

I'm amazed people have the capacity for puns right now.

 

[riotous]

15 minutes without a pulse is very, very bad to say the least, even if she pulls through.

And if the tweet is correct; it took 15 minutes from the time the plane landed to get a pulse. So 15+ whatever time she spent in the air.

Scary to say the least; thoughts are with her family.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

As much as it sucks: TMZ is probably going to be first on this. They're first on most celebrity deaths. It's a ghoulish business, but it's what they're best at, I've found.

So far, this seems to be the stuff that most sources seem to agree on:

She went into full cardiac arrest in the air.
It was 15 minutes before landing
She was unresponsive on the plane
After 15 minutes of CPR (first started while in the air) they got a pulse.
She was taken to UCLA Medical and placed in Critical Condition
She's on a ventilator.

 

[Gleethor]

Fuckfuckfuck

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Long flight, likely was a Pulmonary Embolism.

Hope she pulls through.

Seems like a possibility, yeah. She certainly had a dangerous lifestyle for a long time but 60 is still tragically young for a massive heart attack, especially these days. She deserves to be an old sassy octogenarian. Can you even imagine Carrie Fisher at 80 with even less fucks to give.

 

[msdstc]

I can't tell if this is good or not.

At least there's a pulse. Hoping for the best.

A PULSE

YES, THERE IS HOPE

Wow, amazing they got a pulse after that long. Amazing. Hope she pulls through.

I'm sorry guys but this is awful news . She was without pulse for 15 minutes. She likely has extensive brain damage if she even comes back at all .

 

[Kindekuma]

Would 15 minutes without a heart-beat cause brain death?

Proper CPR with rescue breaths could help supply oxygen to the brain but not to the extent of regular breathing. I wouldn't exactly say brain death, but some damage is likely.

 

[StopMakingSense]

He got to fly home a couple weeks ago, and is cleared to work half-days now. He still has a lot of PT, has to use a special pillow under his seatbelt to prevent injury, has slightly slurred speech and his vision is a lot worse than it was but all things considered he's in pretty good shape. He's still himself, which was the big worry at the beginning.

Considering the circumstances, he is extremely luck to be doing that well. Best wishes towards his recovery.

 

[SpaceWolf]

If you're not breathing for 15 minutes... That update brings me no hope and makes me feel worse. She's not going to recover with all of her faculties.

She wasn't dead when they got her off the plane.

That's encouraging enough for me at this point in time.

 

[Hagi]

I'm amazed people have the capacity for puns right now.

Do you not know who you are quoting.

 

[forrest]

Awful news.

Hope she pulls through with no complications.

 

[Sectorseven]

Does "worked on" for 15 minutes = no pulse for 15 minutes? Couldn't that just include the time they were loading her off the plane and onto an ambulance and such?

 

[SchrodingerC]

TMZ update

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/812429547211587584

C'mon Carrie, keep fightin!

 

[Jedi2016]

People need to lighten up on the 15 minutes thing.. she was on CPR throughout that entire time, which, if done properly, will provide adequately oxygenated blood to her brain. Lay off the "extensive brain damage" talk until we actually hear something definitive, yeah?

 

[Jigorath]

Fuck this is horrible.

 

[Tonky]

The medical staff are the ones who would be in violation, if TMZ's source, not TMZ.

TMZ is under no obligation to conform to HIPAA standards.

I don't understand, how are TMZ getting their updates then? Wouldn't TMZ's source have to be one of the medical staff?

 

[Whompa02]

15 minutes till a pulse sounds bad...

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Very frightening experience. Hope she's ok.

 

[Tugatrix]

If you're not breathing for 15 minutes... That update brings me no hope and makes me feel worse. She's not going to recover with all of her faculties.

That's premature, many factors in play here, we better wait before doing that judgment. The last place I worked I saw people recover from severe brain damages, with minor sequels or even no sequels

 

[JetBlackPanda]

Does air travel make heart conditions worse?

I hope the CPR was done properly the entire time. Please be ok Carrie.

 

[Dark Phoenix]

Fuck, please pull through. Hoping for the best.

 

[Anteo]

TMZ update

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/812429547211587584

ugh.. thats 15 mins on air and then 15 with the paramedics until they got a pulse....

 

[VanWinkle]

Oh man. Terrible. Here's at least hoping for the best outcome that can happen, even if it's not great.

 

[Hagi]

As much as it sucks: TMZ is probably going to be first on this. They're first on most celebrity deaths. It's a ghoulish business, but it's what they're best at, I've found.

So far, this seems to be the stuff that most sources seem to agree on:

She went into full cardiac arrest in the air.
It was 15 minutes before landing
She was unresponsive on the plane
After 15 minutes of CPR they got a pulse.
She was taken to UCLA Medical and placed in Critical Condition
She's on a ventilator.

Surely this could mean she was deprived of oxygen to the brain for half an hour instead of 15 minutes if it was the paramedic who got the pulse