Could be anyone. Medical staff, someone close to her etc
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TMZ: Carrie Fisher suffers cardiac arrest on plane (Up: in ICU, condition unknown)
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Could be anyone. Medical staff, someone close to her etc
blastprocessor
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Man i'm so sorry to hear about this as a member of my family also suffered a heart attack and passed away.
15 minutes is a long time so it's going to be in god hands if her brain isn't damaged and she lives through this.
Only 60 years old as well
15 minutes is a long time so it's going to be in god hands if her brain isn't damaged and she lives through this.
Only 60 years old as well
You're absolutely right. TMZ's sources or their sources may indeed be violating HIPAA. TMZ though? They're not practitioners.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Plenty of people willing to talk to TMZ.
StopMakingSense
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As I said, if the source was medical staff, that person would be in violation. Also could be law enforcement office involved in situation who became aware of the info, TMZ gets a lot of their news like this from LEOs.
Surely this could mean she was deprived of oxygen to the brain for half an hour instead of 15 minutes if it was the paramedic who got the pulse
Appears that way. Not a good situation, but it's good that someone was on the flight attempting to administer CPR.
Yes, someone on the medical staff at the hospital could potentially be violating HIPAA. TMZ are journalists. They are not bound by HIPAA.
v important.
muamba has been interviewed many times on tv since his recovery and hasn't shown any noticeable signs of brain damage btw
Bobby Roberts
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Surely this could mean she was deprived of oxygen to the brain for half an hour instead of 15 minutes if it was the paramedic who got the pulse
Possibly. The CPR was started before the plane landed. She might have already had the pulse before they put her on the ambulance.
Already Torn
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Yeah. But that's why people aren't getting mad at TMZ.
CPR can help provide oxygen to the brain. An emt being aboard is a big deal. Fingers crossed.
Lights and Waves
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Thank God she made it to the hospital. I'm praying she pulls through...she's been such an inspiration to me ever since I was a kid. I was fortunate enough to see her live and tweet with her a few times.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Fuck...
I hope she pulls through.
I hope she pulls through.
That sounds incredibly unethical either way.
foxuzamaki
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Jesus this is terrifying
Bobby Roberts
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Also, re: TMZ's reporting - for as low as their reputation tends to be in almost all other aspects, the one thing they seem to have their shit almost 100% together on is celebrity deaths. Ghoulish as that is, they tend to be very accurate, and usually first, as well.
StopMakingSense
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Depends if the '15 minutes' includes the time on the plane. A little unclear from the post.
Reagan's BR
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Very sad. Hope she pulls through.
As others have explained her brain wasn't necessarily without oxygen.
GeordieMark
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Shit news to hear this close to Xmas, or anytime really. Hope she pulls through ok. May the force be with her!
Already Torn
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TMZ isn't a bastion of ethical integrity, no. But it's not illegal, and they have good sources.
This. The TMZ news is bad.
CassidyIzABeast
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You can get something as vague as it 15 minutes for them to get a pulse from Anna Akana. Doesn't have to be medical staff.
Nothing new for TMZ really, they've been taking leaks from hospitals for a long time now.
Best not to get too wrapped up in the minutiae I guess.
Already Torn
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No, it's as good as it could possibly be. There were EMTs doing CPR basically immediately after the heart attack (possible oxygenation) and we actually have a pulse, which a lot of people (myself included) doubted would be the case.
Bobby Roberts
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Yeah, their update isn't particularly clear. It could be read as "paramedics worked on her for 15 minutes once the plane landed" or "we found once the plane landed that paramedics had worked on her for 15 minutes"
Yeah. Bottom line is she's in critical, on a respirator, at UCLA medical right now.
JonnyDBrit
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Potentially. It's known that being sat for too long can mess with people's circulation, and transatlantic flights sit somewhat on the border in that regard.
bangbang i'm a timpani
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my dad had a heart attack at 62, was out for 12 minutes, and they got his heart going again. he was in a coma for a month then passed away :\.
yea for them not TMZ. They are just providing information. I mean yea I think it's too much at times, but they are just doing a job.
That's hardly exclusive to TMZ. Almost all major media organizations do it to get a scoop.
JetBlackPanda
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She came to Salt Lake Comic con and was absolutely amazing to fans. She sat at her booth for hours and made sure every little girl met Princess Leia.
Man this is rough.
Man this is rough.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Hope she pulls through.
Patrick Bateman
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8 of 10 people who receive CPR die.
Of those 2 who survive probably 1.8 suffer massive damage to the brain, lung and other organs. 0.2 recover properly..
I'm not Fisher's doctor or whatever, but the chance that it looks bad for her is high.
I wish to be surprised in a positive way, though.
I remember meeting her in Dallas. She was right next to the Green Power Ranger's booth. Some little girl was running around backstage as security tried to chase the child and Carrie was just all giggles about the ordeal.
She comes off as insanely sincere in her interviews with Craig Ferguson as well. I respect the hell out of that woman. I wish her the best.
Bobby Roberts
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LA Times update to say there were nurses on the plane tending to her in flight, contains audio of air traffic control arranging for medical to meet her upon landing
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-carrie-fisher-cardiac-20161223-story.html
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-carrie-fisher-cardiac-20161223-story.html
Vault Dweller 111
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In a lot of cases, TMZ is paying people for these scoops. So it's not like they're uninvolved.
Also "just doing a job" isn't a thing.
WeAreStarStuff
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This exact thing happened to my dad, except he was 60 and it was 15 minutes. They got his pulse back. Was unresponsive and on life support. Died a month later.
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