Yeah I think it’s great to see game creators talk about playing and enjoying competitor’s games. In the end they’re just gamers who know how to make their own games. And this was a cool interview for people who has outgrown the wars and just enjoy games and it’s focused on the development side of things too which is interesting. You can really sense the respect these veterans of the industry have for each other.
Kinda feels like the opposite tbh.todd to neogaf..............
"Innovations".
This honestly is the case. This game would feel fresh between 2011-2015.
Fallout 3 was the last good game they made IMHO.What he is saying is people's standards for Action-RPGS have raised. This was impressive in 2008:
The competition is much steeper in 2023. We are in the post Witcher 3 era.
So you know more than the leading expert and one of the biggest minds in gaming?
That "leading expert" is trying very clearly to sell you his new product, he is far from being objective. You can also look at his past comments - he is a businessman, promoting his game. Nothing wrong with that, but keep it in mind. Critical thinking, and all that.
Nobody will be sad to see you go with yours "trying to underline me and the rest of the fans". These are pixels you are talking about, find something more meaningful to be angry about.
Impressive for bethesda standards.What he is saying is people's standards for Action-RPGS have raised. This was impressive in 2008:
The competition is much steeper in 2023. We are in the post Witcher 3 era.
They absolutely brought it on themselves though. The sales pitch was this game was the hottest shit to ever be made and it’s just very mid across the board. After playing several hours I have pretty much zero desire to pick it up again because it’s so boring.
This is what Todd was arguing though - that every game has RPG lite systems like XP these days (most have a mixture of builds too). I think Bethesda's learn-by-doing approach to experience and leveling is great, but as RPG-lite becomes the standard, studios like Bethesda have a responsibility to more clearly define the genre. Larian has shown this can still be done done, by focusing less on numbers, action and grinding and more on adventure, decision-making, and character interaction.
Welcome to the real world if you just realised that marketing for a game is meant to hype you up for it and talk about the things the developers were excited to create. At no point, however, were they being misleading and everything that was presented in pre-release materials is in the game. If you imagined it to be more than what was shown then it's your fault for having unrealistic expectations.
Games have lived up to and even surpassed the hype before. This one absolutely did not, and that’s a damn shame for what’s supposed to be a flagship title. Bethesda needs to ditch their old ass engine. I agree that there’s nothing missing in the game that was in the marketing, except for having much fun
Unfortunately, as it's with most games in general, they won't click with everyone no matter how great the idea sounded on paper. But I don't think that this disappointment is universal. There are just as many if not more folks around who are having a great time with this game. All of my friends on discord, for instance, have had nothing but positive things to say about it and we've been chatting about various details of what we've done and encountered in the game for weeks now.
I agree, the Horizon series has one of the worst implementations of RPG systems for a linear single-player game in recent times. Too many redundant weapon archetypes that all do the same thing and elemental damages with meaningless effects. Skill trees that don't really bring anything new but improve the clunky core gameplay mechanics (melee combat is still ass in the second even after all the upgrades). Meaningless dialogue wheel that amounts to nothing.
You can also do all of these things in No Man's Sky (arguably to an even greater extent) and I don't think anyone considers NMS to be an RPG. While it's true that action games have borrowed from RPGs, Bethesda has done the same, in making their games more and more action-oriented for a mainstream audience. The push towards a homogenized middle ground has come from both directions.
I don't know, I replayed Fallout3 on the steam deck recently. It's still impressive. More impressive than starfield, frankly. Gets you hooked right away and the rpg elements are all there.What he is saying is people's standards for Action-RPGS have raised. This was impressive in 2008:
The competition is much steeper in 2023. We are in the post Witcher 3 era.
Bethesda decided to sit their asses in early-2000s game design and is getting a rude wake-up call. If not for mods Bethesda games' wouldn't survive much longer in the current gaming landscape. I bet not even 20% of Starfield players will be playing vanilla Starfield a year from now. This is the truth about Bethesda games. They lack too many QoL features, and there are things you can't simply change like all the loading screens for every little thing.
Yeah this is the problem and it has happened little by little each game. Oblivion got rid of certain spells and weapon types that were in the past elder scrolls games. It took modders to add those things back in. Having only 4 weapons was just dumb (swords, axes ,daggers and hammers). Skyrim took out choosing a class, took out earning skills by doing them, took out custom spells, some say for the better, but it made it so it felt more generic. And again, they had limited number of weapons and just did effects on each.
