I suspect that may be the entire point; expose his true nature as a ghoul to the CCG, and watch all hell break loose. It'd fit in with the clowns' M.O.
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I suspect that may be the entire point; expose his true nature as a ghoul to the CCG, and watch all hell break loose. It'd fit in with the clowns' M.O.
Wouldn't that put suspicion on Furuta as well, seeing as he's a Washuu too? I doubt he'd do that, unless it's happening without his knowledge.
Doesn't really need furuta to be the one that ordered it or even know about it until it's too late. Like I said, chaos is the clowns' M.O. and if someone decided to pour more fuel on the fire on their own, this is the perfect way to do that. But we'll only know for certain when the next entry rolls up at the weekend.
WhiskerFrisker
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Oh god, I was dying at the last panel. So random.
Matsuri getting offed off-screen was an anti-climax, but I suspect having the full fight drawn and written out would've taken a hell of a long time, so that got cut out. As for Amon and Kaneki finally meeting up, it's been a long time coming. Oh, and Uta? Very clever bro. He knows exactly what he's doing.
Fulminator
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I have no idea what's going on with uta
Didn't mutsuki just wreck him? How did he get away?
Also, dae need to read a summary of the chapters afterwards to completely understand what's going on lol
Didn't mutsuki just wreck him? How did he get away?
Also, dae need to read a summary of the chapters afterwards to completely understand what's going on lol
WhiskerFrisker
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Mutsuri getting off-screened still doesn't bother me as much as what happened to Eto. She deserved better T-T
So Uta wasn't actually fighting Mutsuki then? He seems completely unphased from a supposed battle.
So Uta wasn't actually fighting Mutsuki then? He seems completely unphased from a supposed battle.
It's like what Donato's power has. His finger gives him which I guess what you would call a clone. And for Uta it would be an earring.
In one of the pages this chapter Uta mentions that he needs to get another earring, and says to Donato that he needs another finger.
Angelus Errare
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Damn, to get killed off screen lmao.
Awful arc. Ishida's penchant for offscreening things makes it straight incomprehensible at times. If it's another kagune bunshin then show it to me, don't just skip vital events from where you left things. It seems like even his grasp on basic story progression is lacking cause I have no clue, why he made a cliffhanger out of V coming to lab and then never did anything with that.
I'm not sure what was the point of Matsuri at this point. I don't really trust Ishida to not pull another silly revival but with how over the top he made the character and how pointless his character turned out, I wish he'd stay 6 feet under. And what was up with CCG guys underwhelmed reaction ? Oh ok, Washuu was a ghoul and got killed by our allies, okay.
Structurally, the existence of multiple organisations, Goat/CCG/V/Q's/Clowns and the war thing seem to be forcing the story into dozens of pointless and poorly laid out fights, at the price of character interactions and story stuff. Just 4/5 chapters after the end of Rue, Ishida throws yet another 12 chapters of fighting. Kaneki barely even got to interact with his old friends. You'd think that after 80 chapters they'd have something to talk about but nooo let's just skip that entirely. (On top of their reunion after ch 86 too)
The logical side of fights still suffers too. Saiko can suddenly do stuff with her kagune that she's never shown before and Urie got a kakuja from who the fuck knows where. This is not even mentioning Roma's kagune worms, Donato's bunshin bullshit, where I can't really call asspull cause they didn't shown their stuff before but it's just taking the kagune in the direction I'm not liking
I've defended the art before but now, I've to jump on the "it got much worse" wagon. Some of the panels are pretty bad.
All this saddens me cause TG has been my favourite running manga for a while and this is the second arc in a row that's plain bad and I'm starting to doubt it can recover.
I'm not sure what was the point of Matsuri at this point. I don't really trust Ishida to not pull another silly revival but with how over the top he made the character and how pointless his character turned out, I wish he'd stay 6 feet under. And what was up with CCG guys underwhelmed reaction ? Oh ok, Washuu was a ghoul and got killed by our allies, okay.
Structurally, the existence of multiple organisations, Goat/CCG/V/Q's/Clowns and the war thing seem to be forcing the story into dozens of pointless and poorly laid out fights, at the price of character interactions and story stuff. Just 4/5 chapters after the end of Rue, Ishida throws yet another 12 chapters of fighting. Kaneki barely even got to interact with his old friends. You'd think that after 80 chapters they'd have something to talk about but nooo let's just skip that entirely. (On top of their reunion after ch 86 too)
The logical side of fights still suffers too. Saiko can suddenly do stuff with her kagune that she's never shown before and Urie got a kakuja from who the fuck knows where. This is not even mentioning Roma's kagune worms, Donato's bunshin bullshit, where I can't really call asspull cause they didn't shown their stuff before but it's just taking the kagune in the direction I'm not liking
I've defended the art before but now, I've to jump on the "it got much worse" wagon. Some of the panels are pretty bad.
All this saddens me cause TG has been my favourite running manga for a while and this is the second arc in a row that's plain bad and I'm starting to doubt it can recover.
TheSpoiler
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So they ended up calming Amon down l? Okay offscreening things is so dumb because it feels so fucking random.
Offscreen thing was just for comedy relief, for whatever reason Matsuri became a joke after the Rue Island arc
I feel like Ishida basically got burned out and is just trying to finish the series, I think he's going to just drop all the answers with Hide and such in the upcoming arc, and the execution is probably going to feel rushed.
Rue Island actually isn't so bad if you read the volumes, but you can still tell he's rushing it, he didn't bother fixing the sketchy panels with Amon vs the Qs either.
The quality went down so much after the Rose investigation arc, it's either he's burned out or he's forced/rushing to finish the series, he peaked at the moment when Kaneki awakened lol
Edit: You could also tell the dude wants to try new shit with all these new clown powers and Saiko's crazy as shit kagune that are being introduced
I feel like Ishida basically got burned out and is just trying to finish the series, I think he's going to just drop all the answers with Hide and such in the upcoming arc, and the execution is probably going to feel rushed.
Rue Island actually isn't so bad if you read the volumes, but you can still tell he's rushing it, he didn't bother fixing the sketchy panels with Amon vs the Qs either.
The quality went down so much after the Rose investigation arc, it's either he's burned out or he's forced/rushing to finish the series, he peaked at the moment when Kaneki awakened lol
Edit: You could also tell the dude wants to try new shit with all these new clown powers and Saiko's crazy as shit kagune that are being introduced
To be honest, I have to agree with this, now that I think back more on the previous arcs and what others are saying. The anticlimax of matsuri's death could have been just to save time, but a lot of sub plots got wrapped up in the space of 18 pages, which is highly unusual, and if ishida is suffering from burnout, he needs to stop to take a break from the series. Otherwise it could cause the series to end in a rush, which won't do anyone any favours. I've enjoyed what I've read, to the point that I've gone a little overboard on enthusiasm for it, but the last thing anyone wants to see is the quality suffering as a result.
This has been the direction of kagune ever since Eto. Kage Bunshin is hardly impressive; she had a Kagune-person deceiving us for nearly half the series. Powerful ghouls can do whatever the fuck they want with them.
They used RC suppressant in the last chapter.
A fair point sure but Noro was not quite so out of there for me, as it was less kagune acting on its own and more, it propping up a dead body, with some semblance of old Noro still there judging by his last words.
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lol at Kaneki/Amon convo.
But it's nice that we finally got some Akira/Hinami or even Amon/Rabbit stuff , I totally forgot about the latter.
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So is Ishida taking shots at the U.S political situation now?
I wonder what's Furuta's end game at of this. It seems that he's going to the route of psychological warfare.
I love it
I wonder what's Furuta's end game at of this. It seems that he's going to the route of psychological warfare.
Fake news!
That last page is great, if Ishida is slowing down I wouldn't mind more interactions between characters and more character development.
I wonder if we'll get some new named characters from the V, since like we're out of competent CCG characters, and I expect the sane ones to be leaving, they're also humans that rely on quinque which is a CCG property so Furuta probably don't give a shit as long as he has an army following him. Ishida didn't even bother naming the Squad 0 characters so I expect all of those new kids to just be more powerful random characters.
I also wonder if they have Rize's kakuhou since we saw those Rize clones in the lab.
That last page is great, if Ishida is slowing down I wouldn't mind more interactions between characters and more character development.
I wonder if we'll get some new named characters from the V, since like we're out of competent CCG characters, and I expect the sane ones to be leaving, they're also humans that rely on quinque which is a CCG property so Furuta probably don't give a shit as long as he has an army following him. Ishida didn't even bother naming the Squad 0 characters so I expect all of those new kids to just be more powerful random characters.
I also wonder if they have Rize's kakuhou since we saw those Rize clones in the lab.
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More names for me to forget. I hope they stay nameless.
I kind of hope not. At this rate I'm starting to lose track of every named character still alive, and I'd rather Ishida focused on the main cast from here on out and tighten up the story more.
So to recap on what just happen;
I'm curious now about how all of this is going to unfold. Ishida has slowed down the pace somewhat for this arc to be more about much needed conversations between the main cast, which is good thing as it allows for some breathing room to see how everyone has been affected in all this, but I get the feeling something big is on the horizon. It's just what and where.
- Amon and Akira finally talk, but the two of them clearly don't know what to say to the other, which is understandable considering how much has changed since they last met;
- Kaneki is gonna have to think up of a new reason for what he's fighting for, as the world is not going to care about the grey aspect of morality, especially with Futura's plan to take every last Ghoul in Tokyo now that he's in charge of CCG;
- Amon's probably going to leave for a while like Takizawa. I can't see him staying around to fight for GOAT, after all the shit he's gone through, hence why Kaneki going to have to think of a new reason to fight so that everyone won't get divided;
- the Oggai might look impressive, but they just killed two ghouls who could hardly defend themselves and they also panicked when one used her Kagune. The fact that they're also nameless suggest to me that they're going to get turned into cannon fodder against an actual opponent and not against easy targets;
- And Touka's gone back to her old haircut. It's ancillary in all this, but she wants to talk to Akira in that last panel. I wonder what's going to happen there, and if Touka going to return to the action now that the stakes have been raised for everyone.
I'm curious now about how all of this is going to unfold. Ishida has slowed down the pace somewhat for this arc to be more about much needed conversations between the main cast, which is good thing as it allows for some breathing room to see how everyone has been affected in all this, but I get the feeling something big is on the horizon. It's just what and where.
She was taken from there by Shachi as seen in his flashback before / during Arima fight. Seemingly caught offpanel judging by this chapter.
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I like this chapter, surprisingly I never actually thought about how similar Akira and Touka's backgrounds were, even when there were a lot of parallels, they're both tutors for Ken, both moms were initially killed by the "king" of the 2 different factions, and both dads went sorta crazy with the killing, but I never really connect the two even it seems super obvious, because Akira was such a different character and presented as some sort of mother figure to Sasaki in :re.
Good to get some insight on Touka. I wonder where Amon will go, especially with Takizawa seemingly wanting to leave, maybe they'll make a small Team? I hope Ishida tie up some loose ends, like scarecrow, whatever happened on that ship with Marude, and so on.
I like this chapter, surprisingly I never actually thought about how similar Akira and Touka's backgrounds were, even when there were a lot of parallels, they're both tutors for Ken, both moms were initially killed by the "king" of the 2 different factions, and both dads went sorta crazy with the killing, but I never really connect the two even it seems super obvious, because Akira was such a different character and presented as some sort of mother figure to Sasaki in :re.
Good to get some insight on Touka. I wonder where Amon will go, especially with Takizawa seemingly wanting to leave, maybe they'll make a small Team? I hope Ishida tie up some loose ends, like scarecrow, whatever happened on that ship with Marude, and so on.
Angelus Errare
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Ha Touka dropped that question so casually lmao.
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Yay Amon, I take it that Amon/Akira are going to leave the story and appear again at a later time (probably with Takizawa), and man I wish she'd stick around, I really liked Sasaki too so it does feel bad to know Ken's personality "took over".
That question from Touka lol. I have a feeling this won't end well with Mutsuki.. Don't do this Ishida..
Hairu probably gonna get made into Noro, it feels like the CCG is now becoming more powerful than the Goat unless there are more S ghouls from their Cohclea recruits.
Also 120 from the original TG was the chapter Touka and Ken had the "talk", Ishida off by a chapter
Yay Amon, I take it that Amon/Akira are going to leave the story and appear again at a later time (probably with Takizawa), and man I wish she'd stick around, I really liked Sasaki too so it does feel bad to know Ken's personality "took over".
That question from Touka lol. I have a feeling this won't end well with Mutsuki.. Don't do this Ishida..
Hairu probably gonna get made into Noro, it feels like the CCG is now becoming more powerful than the Goat unless there are more S ghouls from their Cohclea recruits.
Also 120 from the original TG was the chapter Touka and Ken had the "talk", Ishida off by a chapter
WhiskerFrisker
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Furuta is still a cunt.
Go get it, Touka.
Go get it, Touka.
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Fucking hell that last page and that fucking smile. Ishida nooooooooooo
I can't believe how different I feel about Mutsuki now than the start of the series, fuck Mutsuki. I wonder how Ken will react now since he doesn't know about the psycho Mutsuki and they had a really good relationship. This won't end well since Ken is likely going to trust her...
The chapter was actually pretty good, probably the best conversation out of the ones we've got in the last few chapters, and lmao at Haise going to the Cafe secretly, I love Haise.
edit: and loooool I just noticed that cup was empty right from the beginning and Ken was pretending to drink it multiple times with a serious face, lmao
Fucking hell that last page and that fucking smile. Ishida nooooooooooo
I can't believe how different I feel about Mutsuki now than the start of the series, fuck Mutsuki. I wonder how Ken will react now since he doesn't know about the psycho Mutsuki and they had a really good relationship. This won't end well since Ken is likely going to trust her...
The chapter was actually pretty good, probably the best conversation out of the ones we've got in the last few chapters, and lmao at Haise going to the Cafe secretly, I love Haise.
edit: and loooool I just noticed that cup was empty right from the beginning and Ken was pretending to drink it multiple times with a serious face, lmao
i think it has to do with the translation, it might've been more subtle judging from ken's reaction but yeah, Touka was sort of teasing Ken but she was also being direct because Ken seems to be going head first against everything just like Touka was doing back in TG, she felt that Ken is planning to leave and die anytime, what she asked was basically to put Ken into the position to be aware that Touka is there for him.
man I love the Sasaki bits though, lol.
I think Mutsuki won't do anything yet, she'll likely lead Touka away from Ken using Yoriko and a raid will happen in a few chapters.
ASilentProtagonist
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That last page thooooo
Man, fuck it all if this is somehow a death flag for Touka. Easy way to make me mad.
This chapter was still good regardless, loved the bit about Sasaki coming to the shop. I hope Mutsuki doesn't go full psycho, and Kaneki isn't an idiot dealing with her.
fuck, I didn't even notice. lmao
This chapter was still good regardless, loved the bit about Sasaki coming to the shop. I hope Mutsuki doesn't go full psycho, and Kaneki isn't an idiot dealing with her.
fuck, I didn't even notice. lmao
Angelus Errare
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RIP to Touka or at the very least she's going to get fucked up something fierce.
The best part of the chapter really.
The best part of the chapter really.
Yeah, I really enjoyed where the conversation went and focused on a number of things beyond the virgin thing, though that was great too. I feel like they sort of play it off, but also make it clear she's completely serious too. That bit about Haise visiting and sort of spying on her while reading like he used to with Rize was pretty sweet. That she recognized it as that was great too.
I do like having these bits of comedy here and there to ease things, though of course it always goes right back to drama and tension.
I still can't figure what Furuta's endgame is here, if he even really has one beyond fucking shit up. Seeing this chapter with the brutal displays and the sheer amount of support he has makes me wonder if it's him sort of dragging humans down to the level of ghouls by having them celebrate and get into this intense slaughter.
That end with Mutsuki definitely doesn't bode well. I don't exactly expect a fight next chapter. I wouldn't be surprised if he just pops in, gives Touka the wedding invite, says he won't say anything, and then goes on his merry way. It'd be a trap of course, though even if Kaneki is unaware of how bonkers Mutsuki is, they should expect something is up.
I admit I am not liking Touka's chances right now. That color page of her where there's what seems a bloody stain on her stomach doesn't bode well given that these pieces of art can foreshadow at times. I'd be disappointed though if Ishida actually went and killed her off. Besides the obvious reason that I like the character and would rather not see her meet such an end, it almost feels too obvious along with the feeling that it would just be a means to reinforce the tragedy of Kaneki's life and all that jazz.
Kind of hope we start seeing some of the dangling plot threads spread out get some more focus and info, though without going too fast. I know there was speculation this series might run the same amount of chapters as the first series, though that only leave a little over 20 chapters if that was the goal and that doesn't seem enough unless you rush it. Or there's actually going to be a third series, but I sort of find that unlikely.
Things I'd hope we get some more on soon:
-The fact that Urie is now a full ghoul. I feel like we haven't really dealt with that since it's happened though Urie has appeared since then and largely seemed to be doing alright?
-It seems clear that wedding will get done soon so that could be interesting.
-What to do about Mutsuki. I feel like there needs to be a confrontation at some point with the other Qs about this, mainly how Saiko noticed he smelled like human blood which should be rather alarming.
-This whole resurrection deal Ui got tempted with. It's either going to be that it's all a crock or Kanou can resurrect them but they're not really them and more mindless killing machines or some such. Trying to figure who else they could pull this with aside from Hairu. Shirazu and Arima are the most obvious. Maybe Shinohara, though he's not dead but in a coma. Manager is always possible since I don't think we've really heard anything about him the whole of Re other than him clearly being used to make Owls.
-Who is Scarecrow? I mean, the obvious guess is that he's Hide since there's stuff that could be considered hints.
-Is Kaneki actually going to find some reason to keep going? I thought we'd sort of done this already with that talk with the imaginary Hide where he realized it was just himself wanting to live, but not he's just empty here and just sort of doing what he did before and trying to fulfill Arima's request to him. I guess it makes sense he wouldn't just get over all that stuff eating at him.
-Biggest one is what Kaneki actually plans to do to somehow bridge things. I believe the original plan was to talk, but assuming they even get that, then what? As a whole, Goat hasn't really done anything beyond get some meds for Akira.
This one seems especially tough since, at the end of the day, ghouls are a species that eats humans to survive. Sure, we've seen many ghouls that are pretty good people with several who don't even want to kill people and instead work off of suicides. But they're still super strong beings with various abilities that, if they don't eat, can go nuts and just kill anyone if they get hungry enough.
I think this might be why the whole chapter with Akira hugging it out with Hinami kind of fell flat for me. Bits of the conversations were good and all, but I don't think Akira is necessarily wrong. It's sad all those kids lost their parents, but they still eat people. I suppose maybe part of the point is that she is correct on that.
This'll probably end up something there isn't an easy answer for, which makes sense since it's probably not given the world. It'd also be weird to have some magical discovery that there's a way for Ghouls to get RC cells they need without eating people unless they manage to come up with a good enough excuse like V hiding it.
Well, that went longer than I intended.
While I am happy to have Kaneki back, I do still miss Haise, there was something about him.
And yeah not like I expect things to suddenly get into a fight next chapter (maybe), but just that showing up there, and with what Mutsuki's done? And Touka's whole showing interest in Kaneki? Yeah that's not going to be pretty, and soon.
Huh, interesting. Didn't think about that. Can I ask what some of the hints are? I'm still relatively new to all this (I binged on it and only caught up a month or two back) so some things may've passed over my head in the going.
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