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[MarkMe2525]

The majority of people on this forum are posting that no matter what Microsoft are going to say, that they are lying and every game will come to playstation one day.

So, tell me what Microsoft could have done to appease your sev1. Big Phil comes out first thing Monday and says, we've seen the comments, we think you guys are fucking nuts. Yes we are porting hi fi rush and sea of thieves, well talk about it more next week.

Then everyone runs with it saying we don't believe you lies of p, more rumours start swirling that everything is going third party.

Basically, that's a lot of words to say there is nothing that MS can do to do the right thing.

What would you have done if you were MS to save the day and deflect thes lunatics spreading bullshit. I don't think they could have stopped those consoles being traded in by loonies.

Don't you know Mibu no ookami is a risk assessment exerciser? How dare you frame his hyperbole as hyperbole. He exercised the risk assessment already.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Phil Spencer has done more damage to the Xbox brand in the course of a week than Don did in years...

Hahaha, you're off your tits

And GHG has liked your post so you know how batshit it is

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Is that what you do? Does gaf now have its very own risk assessment exerciser?

Yes, I do risk assessments as part of what I do for a living.

Are you familiar with a risk matrix?

Phil was better off not responding at all to these rumors than to tweet that they have an event next week.

There are just several mistakes here.

• Not addressing the issues head on to stem the bleeding
• To push off the timeline for addressing the issues
• To not give a specific date for addressing the issues

That's not how you respond to a SEV1. You have lifelong Xbox fans who are selling their consoles, who are essentially your brand ambassadors and I'm not talking about online influencers. I'm talking about people who tell their grandmas what to get their grandkids for their birthdays and for christmas. You're impacting what people are told at retail... "Don't buy an Xbox, they could pull the rug out from you any day now."

Reputational damage is so dangerous because you can't understand the cost, it can be exponential.

Imagine the risk of not updating a contract in time and service is discontinued. Let's say it's for internet access. You have to send everyone home, but maybe you have disaster recovery plans in place to allow for remote work, you largely know what you've lost, the time to send people home during the workday, that some people won't have good quality internet at home, that additional remote work will slow down projects, and you probably know how long it will take to get internet restored to an office.

Nobody knows the extent of the damage this week will cause Microsoft... nobody...

 

[DJ12]

Hahaha, you're off your tits

And GHG has liked your post so you know how batshit it is

Please don't request a ban next week.

 

[DeVeAn]

Only porting that game would be a complete waste of times and resources. The ROI isnt worth the trouble

Maybe, but would they make deals with square and sega just to go third party? Seems like last minute decision otherwise.

Unless Microsoft just doesn’t care about Xbox brand anymore. I recently saw that gaming was one of their biggest earnings.

 

[Wulfer]

So the only truth is that PlayStation fanboys are the worst?

No PlayStation fanboys don't get off that easy, its crystal clear the videogame media had a hand in this too fueling they're fire! Both were actively trying to push Xbox to its death. MS should come out with HiFi Rush and Sea of Thieves at the regular starting price of $70. This would cool their jets!

 

[FunkMiller]

Whatever they announce next week, discussions have definitely been had about a lot of games going third party. Otherwise they would have closed the rumours down by now. You can’t say ‘this isn’t happening’ if there is a chance it could happen, because of the backlash that would cause.

They obviously feel the current speculation is better than denying or confirming anything, which isn’t a good sign if you’re anti them porting their games to PlayStation.

 

[MarkMe2525]

Yes, I do risk assessments as part of what I do for a living.

Are you familiar with a risk matrix?


Nobody knows the extent of the damage this week will cause Microsoft... nobody...

If nobody can know, can you claim to know? I wouldnt dare disagree with a well exercised risk assessor who exercises their risk assessment skills with risk assessment exercises. That's why I trust you to know, what you claim no one can know, even if you're not sure you know what you do know or do not know.

Btw... I have seen the Matrix many many times.

 

[GHG]

Hahaha, you're off your tits

And GHG has liked your post so you know how batshit it is

No it means it's correct.

You've been here in full suffering mode for the last couple of weeks due to your insistence on living in cloud cuckoo land for the last god knows how many years when it comes to all things Xbox.

It's harder to convince someone they are being lied to than it is to make someone believe a lie. That's Phil Spencer and Xbox in a nutshell and that's how they've managed to manipulate so many of you.

Good luck.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Yes, I do risk assessments as part of what I do for a living.

Are you familiar with a risk matrix?

Phil was better off not responding at all to these rumors than to tweet that they have an event next week.

There are just several mistakes here.

• Not addressing the issues head on to stem the bleeding
• To push off the timeline for addressing the issues
• To not give a specific date for addressing the issues

That's not how you respond to a SEV1. You have lifelong Xbox fans who are selling their consoles, who are essentially your brand ambassadors and I'm not talking about online influencers. I'm talking about people who tell their grandmas what to get their grandkids for their birthdays and for christmas. You're impacting what people are told at retail... "Don't buy an Xbox, they could pull the rug out from you any day now."

Reputational damage is so dangerous because you can't understand the cost, it can be exponential.

Imagine the risk of not updating a contract in time and service is discontinued. Let's say it's for internet access. You have to send everyone home, but maybe you have disaster recovery plans in place to allow for remote work, you largely know what you've lost, the time to send people home during the workday, that some people won't have good quality internet at home, that additional remote work will slow down projects, and you probably know how long it will take to get internet restored to an office.

Nobody knows the extent of the damage this week will cause Microsoft... nobody...

There's what, 30 million xboxes out there....why are you worried by a couple of thousand..probably not even that, xboxes being traded in.

You're acting like the xbox has made national news for burning down multiple homes and killing children to the point they neednto be recalled.

Everyday Jeff won't even have a clue what is going on, apart from some guy at work might speak to Jeff and say..."have you heard all the games from xbox are coming on playstation"...and Jeff probably goes..".aren't all the games on everything anyway, I just play fortnite and cod"

If this is a nothing burger, it's no one's fault but the people that spread the lies and those that fell for it or dreamed it was reality. If it is reality, then cool. If it happens in 5 years, cool. Who really cares.

Please don't request a ban next week.

Hahaha, no chance I have helldivers to play with my gaf buds. I don't understand why we aren't all playing it instead of worrying about Phil Spencer and his sev1 business collapse. Xbox is dead according to Mibu no ookami . Phil didn't drop every little thing in his business life to speak to the Sony fans and xbox shills that can't wait one week to decide if they actually want to sell their console.

Next week we will have people saying Phil is to blame for them trading in their xboxes hahaha

 

[Mibu no ookami]

The majority of people on this forum are posting that no matter what Microsoft are going to say, that they are lying and every game will come to playstation one day.

So, tell me what Microsoft could have done to appease your sev1. Big Phil comes out first thing Monday and says, we've seen the comments, we think you guys are fucking nuts. Yes we are porting hi fi rush and sea of thieves, well talk about it more next week.

Then everyone runs with it saying we don't believe you lies of p, more rumours start swirling that everything is going third party.

Basically, that's a lot of words to say there is nothing that MS can do to do the right thing.

What would you have done if you were MS to save the day and deflect thes lunatics spreading bullshit. I don't think they could have stopped those consoles being traded in by loonies.

What people are posting is that no matter what Microsoft says, if they've lost public trust, it won't matter.

Their brand was already not doing well. It's not selling at all in Europe and Asia.

This largely blew up over the weekend. Phil and co should have got on a zoom (or teams lol) call and decided on a plan of action to publicly respond on Monday. Either going as far as to say, "hey we are going third party, we're going to bring select titles to other platforms, or none of it is true."

By waiting a week he has created animosity and toxicity to the brand, even to the point where he risks that people who otherwise wouldn't may sell their products and cancel their services...

Somehow you think that broken trust for a brand isn't a tangible thing. Again, you don't understand reputational risk and don't believe that it is a thing.

Look at Marvel movies. People spent money to go see Antman and Guardians of the Galaxy because they bought into the Marvel universe. Now they're not seeing any Marvel movies because of a handful of bad titles. The reputation is gone. Now they have to prove that a movie is good before someone is going to go see it.

That's why sometimes companies will cancel bad products rather than release them (that and tax write offs) because it is worth taking the L rather than ruining your reputation.

People pretend like Marvel never made a bad movie before. Thor the Dark World was a terrible movie. Iron Man 3 was a bad movie. But release 3-4 of these movies in a row?

 

[Mibu no ookami]

If nobody can know, can you claim to know? I wouldnt dare disagree with a well exercised risk assessor who exercises their risk assessment skills with risk assessment exercises. That's why I trust you to know, what you claim no one can know, even if you're not sure you know what you do know or do not know.

Btw... I have seen the Matrix many many times.

That we can't know is a reason to be more concerned than not.

If I can tell you how painful something can be you can decide how to bare with it. If you don't know how painful something can be you can't prepare sufficiently at all.

You don't know any of this stuff, because you're probably a burger flipper or an uber driver.

 

[Raonak]

MS PR is an asbsolute dissaster. This is what happens when you regularily use leakers to control information.

They didn't provide a clear and definitive statement, and now this whole thing is a clusterfuck.
Even if the only announce HifiRush and Sea of Thieves, people know eventually there will be more.

 

[Wulfer]

Well, regardless of what you "think", we aren't privy to the discussions between MS Nintendo and Sony, so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with that info. Look, if you bought the unsubstantiated reports hook line and sinker, and made some grand proclamations based on those, I'm sorry. Companies generally don't comment on rumor and speculation, especially when it involves their partners. Phil specifically stated we would have more info next week, obviously that wasn't enough for Gaf. Heck, I wanted to know what the plans were sooner as well, but it didn't play out that way.

Smartest thing said all WEEK!

 

[MarkMe2525]

That we can't know is a reason to be more concerned than not.

If I can tell you how painful something can be you can decide how to bare with it. If you don't know how painful something can be you can't prepare sufficiently at all.

You don't know any of this stuff, because you're probably a burger flipper or an uber driver.

I'm sorry I made you feel silly, that doesn't give you reason to attack other people's livelihoods.

I must say though, I'm surprised as a risk assessor, who exercises their risk assessment skills with risk assessment exercises, that you didn't see it coming. Maybe you aren't as good at risk assessment, as the risk assessment exercises have led you to believe.

Edit: btw Wulfer gave me the "smartest post of the week award". He read your post about the Matrix, and found it lacking.

 

[Topher]

The majority of people on this forum are posting that no matter what Microsoft are going to say, that they are lying and every game will come to playstation one day.

So, tell me what Microsoft could have done to appease your sev1. Big Phil comes out first thing Monday and says, we've seen the comments, we think you guys are fucking nuts. Yes we are porting hi fi rush and sea of thieves, well talk about it more next week.

Then everyone runs with it saying we don't believe you lies of p, more rumours start swirling that everything is going third party.

Basically, that's a lot of words to say there is nothing that MS can do to do the right thing.

What would you have done if you were MS to save the day and deflect thes lunatics spreading bullshit. I don't think they could have stopped those consoles being traded in by loonies.

Just a single tweet.....

"We have no plans for Starfield to launch any other platforms"

....would have kept this from blowing up like it has.

 

[DenchDeckard]

What people are posting is that no matter what Microsoft says, if they've lost public trust, it won't matter.

Their brand was already not doing well. It's not selling at all in Europe and Asia.

This largely blew up over the weekend. Phil and co should have got on a zoom (or teams lol) call and decided on a plan of action to publicly respond on Monday. Either going as far as to say, "hey we are going third party, we're going to bring select titles to other platforms, or none of it is true."

By waiting a week he has created animosity and toxicity to the brand, even to the point where he risks that people who otherwise wouldn't may sell their products and cancel their services...

Somehow you think that broken trust for a brand isn't a tangible thing. Again, you don't understand reputational risk and don't believe that it is a thing.

Look at Marvel movies. People spent money to go see Antman and Guardians of the Galaxy because they bought into the Marvel universe. Now they're not seeing any Marvel movies because of a handful of bad titles. The reputation is gone. Now they have to prove that a movie is good before someone is going to go see it.

That's why sometimes companies will cancel bad products rather than release them (that and tax write offs) because it is worth taking the L rather than ruining your reputation.

People pretend like Marvel never made a bad movie before. Thor the Dark World was a terrible movie. Iron Man 3 was a bad movie. But release 3-4 of these movies in a row?

Maybe, just maybe. We should hold these industry insiders accountable. Maybe Microsoft can sue them, or expose them for damaging the brand by spreading lies...

I love how the fault lies at the feet of Microsoft and not the people who made the lies...what a fucked up scenario.

 

[DavidGzz]

then why have they been so quiet? if nothing beyond that was set in stone they could have denied it or even just put out the classic “we don’t comment on rumors and speculation”

instead they let this go rampant unchecked to the damage of their own brand

Free advertising of their games and Game Pass and in the end, zero damage done. Pretty cool, right?

Dozens of threads on several forums. So much Xbox talk. Seems like MS would be ok with that to me.

 

[Topher]

Maybe, just maybe. We should hold these industry insiders accountable. Maybe Microsoft can sue them, or expose them for damaging the brand by spreading lies...

I love how the fault lies at the feet of Microsoft and not the people who made the lies...what a fucked up scenario.

 

[Three]

Mass hysteria and old gossipy women rumours? Thats NeoGAF for you

Yeah like there wasn't a whole 10k Twitter Spaces, podcasts, articles by almost everyone. Mostly actual xbox people like Jez, Tom, Gaz, Timdog, Parris, defining dukes etc. It was all gossipy Neogaf at it again. Have you no shame?

 

[DenchDeckard]

Just a single tweet.....

"We have no plans for Starfield to launch any other platforms"

....would have kept this from blowing up like it has.

Tweet responses


"Sure"

"We don't believe you"

"Not right now you dont"

Lol how did I know it was your response with the stallonengif without seeing who posted it lol

Why are people even bothered if Microsoft further up damages their brand. They are rich as fuck and no ones friend. Letnthem not respond and tarnish their brand even more.

Forum users like Mibu no ookami will never like or even respect, trust Microsoft no matter what, so why are you dictating what Microsoft should do when there is no way any of it would actually appease you, they couldn't do anything right.

Just stand back and enjoy the show. This last week has been gold.

 

[GHG]

Maybe, just maybe. We should hold these industry insiders accountable. Maybe Microsoft can sue them, or expose them for damaging the brand by spreading lies...

I love how the fault lies at the feet of Microsoft and not the people who made the lies...what a fucked up scenario.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

I'm sorry I made you feel silly, that doesn't give you reason to attack other people's livelihoods.

I must say though, I'm surprised as a risk assessor, who exercises their risk assessment skills with risk assessment exercises, that you didn't see it coming. Maybe you aren't as good at risk assessment, as the risk assessment exercises have led you to believe.

I didn't attack your livelihood, I just called you out as likely being an uber driver.

Most people who work in any corporate environment or really any organized environment have to manage risk. That you don't suggest that you're probably a pretty low line worker or contractor such as an uber driver.

 

[splattered]

No it means it's correct.

You've been here in full suffering mode for the last couple of weeks due to your insistence on living in cloud cuckoo land for the last god knows how many years when it comes to all things Xbox.

It's harder to convince someone they are being lied to than it is to make someone believe a lie. That's Phil Spencer and Xbox in a nutshell and that's how they've managed to manipulate so many of you.

Good luck.

Where is the manipulation? Playstation fans are projecting and Xbox influencers are losing their minds but NOWHERE did Microsoft/Xbox/Phil come out and officially say they were going third party or giving up on hardware. Sure some excecs have hinted their own personal desires or curiosities but that doesn't mean anything is actually happening. This has all been masturbation material by crazy fans still hating on Microsoft for completing the Acti acquisition imo.

Xbox already had a business update in the works detailing what the current plans are, these are regular things at every company. What makes people think this meeting is some sort of knee jerk damage control reaction? Everyone desperate for a gotcha.

Everyone WANTS this shit to happen, but it obviously isn't.

Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves coming to other platforms is a good thing, no need for doom and gloom prophecies.

 

[Topher]

Tweet responses


"Sure"

"We don't believe you"

"Not right now you dont"

Lol how did I know it was your response with the stallonengif without seeing who posted it lol

lol.....what? Xbox fans everywhere are pissed at Phil Spencer and Microsoft for their defeaning silence and flippantly brushing them off until a "business event" next week and you are telling me that a simple flat denial would have made no difference?

Are you kidding?

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Maybe, just maybe. We should hold these industry insiders accountable. Maybe Microsoft can sue them, or expose them for damaging the brand by spreading lies...

I love how the fault lies at the feet of Microsoft and not the people who made the lies...what a fucked up scenario.

So I know you're not a lawyer, but you should have a cursory understanding of libel and defamation.

You'd have to prove that any of these journalists knowingly lied. Given that Microsoft has not refuted these claims and these journalists have protections for privileged information, you would not win any defamation suit against them.

If Microsoft reached out to these journalists and said, this isn't true or put out a statement saying this isn't true and they maintained the storylines, that could potentially be defamation.

Microsoft's own inaction here is absolutely at question, but you're just a silly fanboy... So I don't expect you to understand simple law either.

Edit: In fact public statements made by Nadella and Stuart confirm these plans in large part.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

I’m baffled too. they are not “going third-party”.

On the other hand, if it was just Hi Fi and Sea going multiplatform, they wouldn’t be holding a Business Meeting with press invited. As far as I can recall they haven’t done that since they announced the Xbox One ten years ago.

 

[splattered]

lol.....what? Xbox fans everywhere are pissed at Phil Spencer and Microsoft for their defeaning silence and flippantly brushing them off until a "business event" next week and you are telling me that a simple flat denial would have made no difference?

Are you kidding?

I think it would have made a difference with the Xbox fans but the Playstation fans and general media wouldn't have corrected course and continued to tail spin right up to the meeting where things will be officially clarified,

 

[RoboFu]

Literally all the more elaborate "news" and rumours came from the usual xbox/Microsoft mouthpieces over the last week.

I wasn't talking who made the rumor but the reactions. I've already explained it .. HIIYAAH!!

 

[GHG]

Where is the manipulation? Playstation fans are projecting and Xbox influencers are losing their minds but NOWHERE did Microsoft/Xbox/Phil come out and officially say they were going third party or giving up on hardware. Sure some excecs have hinted their own personal desires or curiosities but that doesn't mean anything is actually happening. This has all been masturbation material by crazy fans still hating on Microsoft for completing the Acti acquisition imo.

Xbox already had a business update in the works detailing what the current plans are, these are regular things at every company. What makes people think this meeting is some sort of knee jerk damage control reaction? Everyone desperate for a gotcha.

Everyone WANTS this shit to happen, but it obviously isn't.

Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves coming to other platforms is a good thing, no need for doom and gloom prophecies.

Bruh, timdog came out and said he heard Xbox went bankrupt. If you want to point the finger, start there. If you like I can assist you in compiling all of the Xbox doom and gloom articles, videos and podcasts from the past week, you'll very quickly start to see a common theme emerging in terms of whom these things being said/written about originate from.

Nobody is projecting, but everybody is enjoying the show. Please continue.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Doesn't matter if its true or not, no one is going to trust Microsoft anymore. Sure they might say its only Hi-Fi Rush and SoT but then would anyone be surprised if 6 months later its Indiana Jones?

Xbox is just this now.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Tweet responses


"Sure"

"We don't believe you"

"Not right now you dont"

Lol how did I know it was your response with the stallonengif without seeing who posted it lol

Why are people even bothered if Microsoft further up damages their brand. They are rich as fuck and no ones friend. Letnthem not respond and tarnish their brand even more.

Forum users like Mibu no ookami will never like or even respect, trust Microsoft no matter what, so why are you dictating what Microsoft should do when there is no way any of it would actually appease you, they couldn't do anything right.

Just stand back and enjoy the show. This last week has been gold.

This isn't about me respecting Microsoft or trusting Microsoft. I don't own an Xbox.

This is about Microsoft's consumers trusting Microsoft.

This is about said consumers trading in their devices and canceling their GamePass subscriptions.

We know that a Microsoft partner (gamestop) has massively decreased the value of an XSX for trade-in this week. And that there are only two reasons why this would have happened.

A) In preparation for a flood of trade-ins that they've suspected
B) In response to a flood of trade-ins so much that it has reached the corporate level of Gamestop and resulted in a policy change on pricing within a week...


Either way, reputational damage has already happened here either with a retail partner and/or with consumers.

That has nothing to do with me.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

As Tom Warren correctly pointed already: nobody knows anything.

Though I expect that the announcements will be slow and will take some time.

 

[Pipoqueiro]

Wharever. This is like first move for more future games

 

[splattered]

Bruh, timdog came out and said he heard Xbox went bankrupt. If you want to point the finger, start there. If you like I can assist you in compiling all of the Xbox doom and gloom articles, videos and podcasts from the past week, you'll very quickly start to see a common theme emerging in terms of whom these things being said/written about originate from.

Nobody is projecting, but everybody is enjoying the show. Please continue.

I dont listen to anything timdog.

Am i supposed to believe this person has inside info that Xbox has gone bankrupt?

Thinking about it i wonder if he was more trying to poke the tiger to get MS to come out and clear things up quicker.

Everyone has acted like an idiot over this, but i in no way blame Microsoft for the army of adult toddlers that play video games.

 

[Topher]

I think it would have made a difference with the Xbox fans but the Playstation fans and general media wouldn't have corrected course and continued to tail spin right up to the meeting where things will be officially clarified,

This latest barrage of rumors started with Starfield and there is no one to blame but Microsoft for not killing that rumor right away if it is bullshit. You are right that it wouldn't make a difference to PlayStation fans, but who cares? Microsoft should be addressing this for Xbox fans. Not PlayStation fans.

 

[MarkMe2525]

I didn't attack your livelihood, I just called you out as likely being an uber driver.

Most people who work in any corporate environment or really any organized environment have to manage risk. That you don't suggest that you're probably a pretty low line worker or contractor such as an uber driver.

Well, you didn't attack my livelihood, as I am not any of the things you have described. Your boy is a 3 time... 3 time... I said 3 time company wide sales person of the year, tutor, and musician. Admittedly, my music kind of sucks.

The point is, people on here (that you interact with regularly) are "burger flippers" and Uber drivers. To act like that is a measure of someone's lack of intelligence is quite frankly, something only an ignoramus would say. Some of the smartest people I know are contractors, Albert Einstein was a lowly clerk. Some of the smartest people on this planet are stuck in "low line work" due to economic pressure, social disorder, or lack of opportunity in their area. I promise you, your job or the fact that you like to talk about The Matrix doesn't make you smarter, or better than anyone.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

Then why the fuck haven't they come out to quell the panic and rumors? What's the point of waiting an entire week to let a whole shitstorm to brew?


This sounds like damage control.

Edit: you also don't need a whole business update event to announce Hifi Rush and Sea of Thieves coming to PS5 and Switch.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Well, you didn't attack my livelihood, as I am not any of the things you have described. Your boy is a 3 time... 3 time... I said 3 time company wide sales person of the year, tutor, and musician. Admittedly, my music kind of sucks.

The point is, people on here (that you interact with regularly) are "burger flippers" and Uber drivers. To act like that is a measure of someone's lack of intelligence is quite frankly, something only an ignoramus would say. Some of the smartest people I know are contractors, Albert Einstein was a lowly clerk. Some of the smartest people on this planet are stuck in "low line work" due to economic pressure, social disorder, or lack of opportunity in their area. I promise you, your job or the fact that you like to talk about The Matrix doesn't make you smarter, or better than anyone.

I didn't say you lacked experience, I said you lacked experience having to manage risk.

You might have been offended that I mentioned a pretty normal term that you aren't familiar with, but most people who have had to manage risk know what a risk matrix is. It's not something fancy or smart... Your own inadequacies are showing here.

 

[DenchDeckard]

No it means it's correct.

You've been here in full suffering mode for the last couple of weeks due to your insistence on living in cloud cuckoo land for the last god knows how many years when it comes to all things Xbox.

It's harder to convince someone they are being lied to than it is to make someone believe a lie. That's Phil Spencer and Xbox in a nutshell and that's how they've managed to manipulate so many of you.

Good luck.

Hahaha, projection.

Have you picked up helldivers 2 yet? It's really good.

 

[GHG]

I dont listen to anything timdog.

Am i supposed to believe this person has inside info that Xbox has gone bankrupt?

Thinking about it i wonder if he was more trying to poke the tiger to get MS to come out and clear things up quicker.

Everyone has acted like an idiot over this, but i in no way blame Microsoft for the army of adult toddlers that play video games.

Sorry but you have all of this backwards.

These people are the way the are because Xbox and the executives there endorse them, encourage them and engage with them.

TimDog literally speaks to Phil Spencer, as do many more of them. The reason so many of them threw their toys out the pram this last week was because uncharacteristically nobody from Xbox was even replying to them for a while when things were going wild.

I don't know why you find it so difficult to hold Xbox accountable in all of this. It's all of their own making, everything down to the 66 year old man-baby internet tantrums.

Hahaha, projection.

Have you picked up helldivers 2 yet? It's really good.

No, not interested, made that clear before already. But if you're enjoying it, it's probably shite.

 

[MarkMe2525]

This latest barrage of rumors started with Starfield and there is no one to blame but Microsoft for not killing that rumor right away if it is bullshit. You are right that it wouldn't make a difference to PlayStation fans, but who cares? Microsoft should be addressing this for Xbox fans. Not PlayStation fans.

The issue, as I see it, is it just wasn't one rumor. In a matter of two days, multiple sister rumors started popping up, including but not limited to Starfield coming to PS, all games coming to PS, Xbox is leaving console market, etc. At that point, one rumor cannot be addressed without addressing them all. I find it a reasonable solution for MS to fast track a planned announcement of their future plans, so that they may address everything at once.

 

[DenchDeckard]

lol.....what? Xbox fans everywhere are pissed at Phil Spencer and Microsoft for their defeaning silence and flippantly brushing them off until a "business event" next week and you are telling me that a simple flat denial would have made no difference?

Are you kidding?

Topher, I read the rumours of starfield on tuesday or Wednesday I think? Phil made his tweet Monday night.

And honestly, I don't think it would have done anything to stop this madness.

Do you think a tweet from Phil saying " we have seen the comments, starfield isn't going anywhere where there isn't gamepass" would have stopped the train?

 

[Moriarty1889]

The dead silence by Phil and MS for days other than his sheepish tweet says it all. Phil Spinster is actively spinning a new web of lies to tell everyone next week. They were caught with their pants down like with the Xbox One outrage and now will be backpedaling to some extent. How much remains to be seen until he finally says something. To be silent as they are while everyone is talking and wondering about the sad state of Xbox just shows how full of shit Phil and Co. are. They dont give a damn about the loyalists who supported their brand all these years. They don’t give a rats ass about the people who constantly waited and waited for the WAIT TIL E3 and THE GAMES ARE COMING rubbish they spoke over and over every year. What they have done to the fans of Xbox who stood by their mediocre efforts all these years is embarrassing. Next week will be very interesting indeed to see just how much they either backtrack or admit their shortcomings while eluding to the current and future state of Xbox.

 

[DenchDeckard]

The issue, as I see it, is it just wasn't one rumor. In a matter of two days, multiple sister rumors started popping up, including but not limited to Starfield coming to PS, all games coming to PS, Xbox is leaving console market, etc. At that point, one rumor cannot be addressed without addressing them all. I find it a reasonable solution for MS to fast track a planned announcement of their future plans, so that they may address everything at once.

Exactly, one tweet about starfiled would have spawned websites and comments and fanboy speculation about "they didn't mention hardware, xbox is dead" etc etc...hey can't win, best to cover it all in one update.

 

[Jesb]

Guys this is what they say before it happens. Happens every time.

 

[Topher]

The issue, as I see it, is it just wasn't one rumor. In a matter of two days, multiple sister rumors started popping up, including but not limited to Starfield coming to PS, all games coming to PS, Xbox is leaving console market, etc. At that point, one rumor cannot be addressed without addressing them all. I find it a reasonable solution for MS to fast track a planned announcement of their future plans, so that they may address everything at once.

Snowball effect. It started with Starfield. Aside from "me too" bullshit from some, the rest was a lot of conjecture about Xbox leaving the console business. A simple tweet or statement of fact about Starfield not going to other platforms would have halted this. Microsoft fucked up.

Topher, I read the rumours of starfield on tuesday or Wednesday I think? Phil made his tweet Monday night.

And honestly, I don't think it would have done anything to stop this madness.

Do you think a tweet from Phil saying " we have seen the comments, starfield isn't going anywhere where there isn't gamepass" would have stopped the train?

Of course it would. Dead in its tracks.

 

[Yoboman]

If it was just those two surely Phil would have just confirmed it
Instead of a whole business update for whatever they are doing

If they really are eventually moving the majority of games they should rip the band-aid off quickly instead of drawing out the pain

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

The issue, as I see it, is it just wasn't one rumor. In a matter of two days, multiple sister rumors started popping up, including but not limited to Starfield coming to PS, all games coming to PS, Xbox is leaving console market, etc. At that point, one rumor cannot be addressed without addressing them all. I find it a reasonable solution for MS to fast track a planned announcement of their future plans, so that they may address everything at once.

They're leaving the console market and releasing their next-gen console in 2026 ... keep up!

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

Exactly, one tweet about starfiled would have spawned websites and comments and fanboy speculation about "they didn't mention hardware, xbox is dead" etc etc...hey can't win, best to cover it all in one update.

People are already saying Xbox is dead, they should have addressed this shit ages ago. The dead silence for days is why this thing has built up into a frenzy, and honestly I don't think their business update next week is going to quell the current panic and speculation.