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Tony Blair: Cheney wanted to invade Iran, Syria, Iraq, etc.
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speculawyer said:
The economy is strangly an aspect that was completely overlooked by the PNAC, in typical neocon fashion, and ended up being the most important one. It was probably overlooked because it was beyond their grasp and common lexicon. So in the end they were all a bunch of circle-jerkers. They never made the economy a priority, because they never understood it, so they didn't want to talk about it.
Jay Shadow
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It's quite easy.Mama Robotnik said:
1. Get less votes than the other guys
2. Check the election rule book
3. Check again to make sure they just read that right
4. ???
5. Profit!!!
Jexhius said:
Depends on what 'remake the power structure of several countries' means.
If it means carpet-bombing the hell out of their capitals and justifying that defense budget in the process, then yeah.
The man is clearly unbalanced though and should not have been anywhere close to a position of power.
OuterWorldVoice said:
Hmm, he was only a failure as a VP because of he actually did stuff.
Otherwise, he was quite successful at getting a lot of the things he wanted to do done.
Aquavelvaman
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Those videos are sad. Now excuse me while I go have a panic attack.FunkyMunkey said:
iamaustrian
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crusade huh?
way to go
way to go
Equus Bellator Apex
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I'm sitting in your driveway right now.speculawyer said:
Lagspike_exe
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Americans are risking loosing their empire because of many individual interests, like the one reflected through this son of a bitch. He didn't want to invade those countries to change them, he wanted to do it to get a % from the weapon sales to the US army.
Trurl said:
If the US had decided to wage Total War and not care about casualities at all- it would have been easier.
It's hard to accomplish military objectives while not killing people.
That said, I'm unsure this would have benefitted many in the US outside of defense contractors.
SmokyDave said:
Hahaha, man, we will NEVER be done with the Middle East.
That is, until fusion or some other non-oil based energy source is popularized and the fuel corporations find it profitable to switch over.
Also, Cheney wanting to invade everyone Iran and everyone else is NOT news. Condeleeza Rice talked about going to war with Iran almost 5 years ago. Do people really have that short a memory?
fortified_concept
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If this shithole of a world was the least bit fair that disgusting little weasel and Cheney would be on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity. The fact that the weasel says anything doesn't mean shit to me. He could be lying again to promote his own interests as he always did.
Cosmic Schwung
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I get the feeling that if Cheney had been born in a country much further east, then there would currently be some very large statues of him there, probably gold, and that the man himself would now be standing in the international court of justice saying "no, I didn't".
Combichristoffersen
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If this is true, then Cheney's even worse than I thought him to be. The man's either delusional or just insane. Or both. It's becoming more and more clear Dubya wasn't really the bad guy, he was just a dumbass Cheney, Rove and the other crooks could conveniently use to push their own agenda. Still, he'll probably go down in history as one of the worst US presidents ever.
Cerebral Assassin
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fortified_concept said:
How was supporting the US in a legally dubious war promoting Blair's own interests?
fortified_concept
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Cerebral Assassin said:
Because he was a puppet to corporate interests and puppets always get rewarded. See the new investment bank for the rich the little weasel started for an example.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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In the UK it may have been legally dubious, but not in the US. That's just the "illegal war" nonsense people made up.Cerebral Assassin said:
What crimes, nothing illegal was done?
fortified_concept
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Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
I won't do this with you again. You're a nationalist blind to your country's crimes and no matter what I tell you you'll always have a pathetic excuse that you think is sufficient.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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fortified_concept said:
You're just mad RiskyChris got banned, but I'm happy to see you admit you have no proof for your point.
fortified_concept
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Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
...and there's the pathetic excuse...
edit: fyi he stealth edited
I can assure you that IF this would have happened, I would not be standing here as I am now. I would surely try to fight back with the terrorists. (bombing and stuff)
IDK how it is with you guys but we muslims kinda feel like one and if the Pentagon would have been so stupid to go on war with those countries...freaking hell would brake loose.
Not to scare you all :lol
This is just a example of reformed democracy failing, do it like the ancient Greeks did:
Smart people get to vote, dumb/misinformed people STFU.
IDK how it is with you guys but we muslims kinda feel like one and if the Pentagon would have been so stupid to go on war with those countries...freaking hell would brake loose.
Not to scare you all :lol
This is just a example of reformed democracy failing, do it like the ancient Greeks did:
Smart people get to vote, dumb/misinformed people STFU.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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fortified_concept said:
And here is the fortifed_concept (TM) "I'm not going to actually support my ramblings with facts".
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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fortified_concept said:
OH NOEZ HE FOUND MY STEALH EDITZ!!!!!
And we're not.
fortified_concept
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grow up
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Facts, try and use them. :lolfortified_concept said:
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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From the guy who posts thisWazzim said:
Son, you'd be dead. :lol
fortified_concept
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Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
We've already discussed this and everyone was laughing at you in the end. If you murder someone you can't say "I don't recognize the authority of this court" to get away with a conviction because you live in a society and you're forced to live by certain rules. If USA wants to be part of the international community and enjoy the advantages that entails they have to abide by some basic rules otherwise they have to become completely isolated and live by their own.
I know you're trying your best to take the crown of the village idiot from Fio in this forum but when we've discussed a matter and everyone was laughing at you in the end you can't repeat the same broken logic again and again until people are sick of replying to you. This is not how people win arguments.
Ollie Pooch
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:lol I thought the exact same thing.frey said:
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jorma said:
Either way, torture is a crime under US law.
Manos, didn't you just take the bar? I know international law isn't on it but the US is bound by many international treaties, the UN charter, etc.
LOL No I wouldn't be that stupid to run and explode like any other idiot.Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
I would become supreme leader myself, make a deal with the American gov. and resign from my post with some nice pile of public money.
Well duh but hey, a man can dream of some epic apocaliptic war.SmokyDave said:Interesting. Lots of muslims claim the absolute opposite. You might find yourself a lonely bomber
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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fortified_concept said:
What benefits?:lol
The sovereign nation is the supreme body in international politics. The domination of other nations are what controls not international law.
We are beholden to ourselves and so are our elected officials.
Wazzim said:
Now that is thinking smart! I like that logic!
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