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Toonami |Aug14| Melodrama Marathon
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UltraGunner
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There really wasn't any suspense for me not getting the job since the employment place is family owned >_>, but a job's a job right?
best episode
Easily. Amazing sequence
*stuffs Levyne into box*
Schadenfreude
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Ha! I made fun of Sam Riegel in a tweet and his mom favorited it.
He tweets this: https://twitter.com/samriegel/status/504454496571777025
I tweeted this: https://twitter.com/francoic/status/504454699278688257
The con retweeted it and then his mom favorited it: https://twitter.com/SacAnime/status/504455013415256064
He tweets this: https://twitter.com/samriegel/status/504454496571777025
I tweeted this: https://twitter.com/francoic/status/504454699278688257
The con retweeted it and then his mom favorited it: https://twitter.com/SacAnime/status/504455013415256064
BassForever
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Honestly it's a classic that should be aired by everyone who enjoyed anime blemishes and all. Also as someone who's suffered from severe anxiety and attempted suicide due to them in the past, I really related to some of the later scenes in the series and think it's a really good glimpse into the mind of someone suffering from anxiety.
Imperial Bishop
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What's going o--
*Eva talk*
*Eva talk*
Imperial Bishop
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Imperial Bishop
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No one can live up to Freiza.
no lies there. Especially imperfect cell, that dude goes from L to L and had to beg to get his powerup. 5 characters (Vegeta, Trunks, Android 16 (via suicide bomb), Goku and Gohan) could have whooped his ass. Tien, who hasn't been shit since Piccolo first showed up, holds his ass down for a long time.
Imperial Bishop
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That never sat well with me when I was a kid. I was like "uhhhh...okay?"
Saiyan Saga Vegeta was a better villain than Cell.
BassForever
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Cell was easily the coolest villain who got instantly lame as hell the moment he powered up and it all went down hill from there.
I do have to admit that having Cell be weaker to begin with than Piccolo and Android 17 but then survive and become stronger than them was neat. Then Imperfect being so outclassed by most of the top stars was a nice change of pace. He even ends the whole thing with one miracle powerup to nearly beat someone who completely outclasses him.
I know this goes against what I just said but hey, I give it points for being different. Goku usually just barely outclasses the villain at the very end or is on par/a bit weaker than them and everyone else isn't even remotely in the picture.
Imperfect Cell though...he might be a bit too weak. Goofy looking too compared to regular old cell who is SCARY AS FUCK. I'm glad I was a teenager when I saw that shit. Dude is creepy!
I know this goes against what I just said but hey, I give it points for being different. Goku usually just barely outclasses the villain at the very end or is on par/a bit weaker than them and everyone else isn't even remotely in the picture.
Imperfect Cell though...he might be a bit too weak. Goofy looking too compared to regular old cell who is SCARY AS FUCK. I'm glad I was a teenager when I saw that shit. Dude is creepy!
Imperial Bishop
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I find it funny how Cell went from looking like a plant bug, to a Mr. Popo bug, to a bishonen bug.
TheAbsolution
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This Twitch downtime is seriously pissing me off. I need to watch my nightly stream before bed. Ugh.
Fuck these "hackers".
Fuck these "hackers".
BassForever
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Being different doesn't automatically make it good
Beware the Batman has taught us this lesson well!
Toriyama never actually wanted Cell to absorb the Androids. The Shonen Jump editors told him that his big bad had to have a transformation, so he absorbed 17, and that 2nd form got such a bad reception that he forced to have Cell absorb 18 too. Guess Toriyama just stopped giving a fuck and made Freeza 2.0. Funny thing is he brought back Second Form Cell to kill Goku as fuck you to the people who hated that form.
Sad because Batman: The Brave and the Bold came before it had a shit ton of unknown villains and was fantastic.
I love the finale had Ambush Bug.
It also made it cool to like Aquaman again for non-comic readers like myself who saw him as useful as a damp towel outside of water.
BassForever
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I know, another classic example of editors messing things up and the author getting a big FU to people who hate something he liked
The reverse has clearly happened with Bleach with Kubo giving a big FU multiple times to fan favorite Toshiro who he clearly doesn't care much about
I heard Kubo recently
killed him off
Bleach Manga spoilers:
The way it has been translated, it seems Kubo gave himself an out to revive him. That being said, fuck that jobber. I hope he dies horribly. I wish more authors had the balls to kill major and minor characters more often. Kubo clearly hated him seeing how much he trolled him throughout the years.
Bleach: The FINAL Bankai spoilers:
If he stays dead then I will give Kubo mad props. You're right, I wish more people had the balls to kill a character and keep them dead.
SigmasonicX
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Concerning Toriyama and how Cell was supposed to be, a couple of things, using this article as the source. First, the impression I get is that his relationship with his editors was far less antagonistic than people like to make it seem. The way the Android and Cell sagas went, the original main villains were Androids 19 and 20, but it was actually one of Toriyama's former editors (as in, someone with no jurisdiction over him) who called him up and said that he was really hyped up about the Androids, but then they turned out to be a boring old man and a fatso. So then Toriyama created 17 and 18, but then the same guy called him up and said that two brats didn't really make for threatening villains. So then he introduced Cell, and Cell's transformations WERE due to his then-current editor, since he thought both imperfect forms looked stupid.
And also, we already know what Dragon Ball turns into when Toriyama has complete control over what happens: the Buu saga. Toriyama freely admits that he barely plans the story out at all and only goes chapter by chapter, which he says in the above link is what led to how convoluted the time travel got in the Cell saga; and would later lead to the incredibly odd pacing and events of the Buu saga. Toriyama is similar to George Lucas in that things can get pretty out of control if he doesn't have anyone to reel him in.
And also, we already know what Dragon Ball turns into when Toriyama has complete control over what happens: the Buu saga. Toriyama freely admits that he barely plans the story out at all and only goes chapter by chapter, which he says in the above link is what led to how convoluted the time travel got in the Cell saga; and would later lead to the incredibly odd pacing and events of the Buu saga. Toriyama is similar to George Lucas in that things can get pretty out of control if he doesn't have anyone to reel him in.
Doctor Decimate
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BassForever
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I agree with him imperfect cell does loon goofy as all hell
Doctor Decimate
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it's not that he doesn't look goofy, it's that there's no way in hell he looks goofier than this:
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No hating on Eva. Hate on Shinji though. He's such a whiny ass.
What the hell is even going on here?
What the hell is even going on here?
BassForever
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it's not that he doesn't look goofy, it's that there's no way in hell he looks goofier than this:
"Imperfect Cell though...he might be a bit too weak. Goofy looking too compared to regular old cell who is SCARY AS FUCK. I'm glad I was a teenager when I saw that shit. Dude is creepy!"
If I'm reading this correctly he's saying
Imperfect Cell aka Cell after absorbing 17 is too weak and goofy looking compared to the original version of Cell aka Cell when he first shows up which is creepy/scary
I think you read his post wrong
Doctor Decimate
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isn't the first form of Cell generally referred to as Imperfect Cell?
BassForever
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Yes, and the second is called semi-perfect, but Man God said in a previous post how cell after absorbing 17 was a massive jobber who lost to everyone including Tien of all people and had to beg for his powerup. The fact that he says "imperfect was too weak/goofy" leads me to think Man-God is calling the second version of Cell Imperfect (which I've done too) and the original version of cell "old". Its the only way his two posts on cell make any sense
"Originally Posted by Man God
no lies there. Especially imperfect cell, that dude goes from L to L and had to beg to get his powerup. 5 characters (Vegeta, Trunks, Android 16 (via suicide bomb), Goku and Gohan) could have whooped his ass. Tien, who hasn't been shit since Piccolo first showed up, holds his ass down for a long time."
Man God is calling Cell's 2nd form imperfect, Cell's 2nd form is the one that gets blasted by Tien
Doctor Decimate
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Man God redeemed
BassForever
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Yep, Cell was by far the best thing to come out of the Android saga... And then he quickly became awful
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