If anyone at Toonami seriously thought it would "save" Toonami, I would imagine it would still be airing at the front of the block.
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Toonami |Jan15| Sold Our Car for Gas Money
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I didn't stay up every night but the nights I did I liked having those shows as background noise or talking about them or related stuff in here. Now that's gone
I kind of want to see somebody confront him about some of the recent mistakes (AoT reruns at front, One Piece recaps, Hellsing snafu, etc.) and how they likely hurt the block but he seems the type of person to EXPLODE in rage in response and it wouldn't be a good or productive look.
To wit:
https://twitter.com/Clarknova1/status/560207315560071168
Oh, shit.
I looked it up and I'm not exactly right. Half of One Piece's dub costs less than the entire run of Gurren Lagann. The entire run of One Piece on DVD costs more, like $50 or so more. Actually just under $50 more.
EDIT: That's the sale price for both, take away the sale and both go up but stay really damn close in price.
My response
I mean I have and always will appreciate the work Demarco and crew do for us but damn does that man have thin skin
That's more 1/4th of the dub as the latest DVD went up to 372, with the next set going up to 384 in April.
No news on Season 7 yet, but
it starts with Duval and the Flying Fish Riders. I may have a searing hatred of the 4Kids dub, but does anyone else want David Moo to play Duval?
Imperial Bishop
Banned
I meant, it was a pipe-dream to think Toonami would last for a long time.
We got to comfortable with reruns and expansions, and now we're back to square one.
It's disheartening, but with cable dying and anime being a niche medium, I can't say it wasn't bound to happen.
I didn't know that I wanted this.
And yet there is ton of Aniplex stuff avalible on Netflix and Hulu in both dubbed and subbed form, while Funimation has been pulling there stuff off of those services in the past few years and not really adding any of it to it's own streaming service.
I'm willing to bet that if Aniplex thought they would make more money selling their stuff cheaper, they would. But instead, they focus on streaming services (that they don't run, so have no overhead), and selling fewer physical goods at an insanely high profit margin probably does make them more money than selling more units at less profit. Just like any good F2P company, they love feasting on their whales
Imperial Bishop
Banned
Well, it's nothing compared to that $500 collector's set Aniplex had a few years ago.
I don't know what I find more depressing: the thought that this was unavoidable and there was nothing Toonami could have really done, or the thought that a recent spate of bad decisions, bad luck, and poor communication may severely injure a Toonami that could have otherwise been just fine.
Doctor Decimate
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I'm not convinced that One Piece is the problem child here because while it didn't compare to everything else, it still did reasonably well. I think it's because the programming philosophy changes when you're running a short block as opposed to a six hour one in order to maximize the ratings; you spread the "big" shows throughout the night, and that might be why One Piece got moved.
Isn't the later obviously better? It means there is hope moving forward as lessons are learned and maybe ratings improve.
Welcome to the wonderful world of AS network assholes shaking things up because panic.
Not necessarily better when Jason "Cool Opinion Anon" DeMarco is in charge of the block.
Imperial Bishop
Banned
I don't work in television or broadcasting, but I think things could have gone better if these precautions were taken:
1. Never air reruns between or in front of premiere shows.
2. Always double-check and triple-check the broadcast rights and contract end-dates for the shows on the block
3. Don't go crazy with the budget.
4. Have the popular shows spread out throughout the night to minimize sudden drop offs.
5. Pair up shows that are very compatible.
1. Never air reruns between or in front of premiere shows.
2. Always double-check and triple-check the broadcast rights and contract end-dates for the shows on the block
3. Don't go crazy with the budget.
4. Have the popular shows spread out throughout the night to minimize sudden drop offs.
5. Pair up shows that are very compatible.
Of course, most likely the current cuts are a combination of both uncontrollable factors that are effecting television as a whole, and recent issues with the programming on Toonami.
TheAbsolution
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I think the Internet makes him madder somehow.My response
I mean I have and always will appreciate the work Demarco and crew do for us but damn does that man have thin skin
He seemed much nicer in person but who knows?
He can't punch you in the face in person.
Thank *BLEEP*ing God.
Maybe they are moving One Piece back because Gurren is ending in a month or so and a newer show is planned to replace it.
Also, I was under the impression that One Piece has consistently under performed. I clearly remember us talking about how the art style was possibly turning away viewers.
Also, I was under the impression that One Piece has consistently under performed. I clearly remember us talking about how the art style was possibly turning away viewers.
I STILL don't know how you are caught by surprise by the fact that you only acquired 4/5s of a show. Like how does that even happen? Learning you are losing rights all of a sudden is a bit more understandable but still jarring. The people down at AS need to talk with each other more often.
Did you mean to edit your original post or did you reply to me, forgot you replied to me and the replied to me again?
Did you mean to edit your original post or did you reply to me, forgot you replied to me and the replied to me again?
I decided to reply to the same post but talk about an entirely different subject.Did you mean to edit your original post or did you reply to me, forgot you replied to me and the replied to me again?
UltraGunner
Banned
Shit I just got the news. This does not bode to well for the block if their big premiere everyone's requesting doesn't lead the block.
First, it's important to remember that the people who actively request shows do not make up a majority of the Toonami viewing audience. Kill la Kill was far and away the riskiest show that would have aired at 11:30.
Second, they're basically just playing it super safe with ratings now.
The one bright side to all this is DBZ is proof that it is a strong lead to start off the block. Keep the AoT reruns was a really poor idea especially considering we hit recap hell on several shows at one point. Hopefully DBZ continues to hold strong ratings as the lead especially since we are hitting some good action next week.
Now the question becomes "what the hell does Toonami do when DBZ Kai ends?" I mean, if it lasts that long.
BassForever
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Bleach Final Act
Which would at most be like, 4 cours.
Maybe DBZ Kai ending is the time to put on Fairy Tail.
DBZ Kai is 100 episodes long and that's before we add the Buu arc which should be dubbed by then. We still have 3 years ahead of us in that regard.
I actually feel the same. At least in the "long run" in it's current form of airing on saturdays at midnight. the slimmer cut of the block should help make it look "better" on "paper" tho
Let's make a show about a fly on the wall!
And then have entire episodes almost completely divorced from the premise of the show!
IGPX
For the record, I think we'll keep the monthly thread format. Most activity dropped after premieres anyway, and 3:30-6:00 usually only generated ~300 posts (oh hey, we seem to be a representative sample of the larger population that reflected in the ratings)
Yeah, things have slowed down since Space Dandy and Attack on Titan ended, but even at this pace we'd need a new thread every ~7 weeks regardless, monthly is more regular/organized. Plus Kill La Kill will liven things up.
Yeah, things have slowed down since Space Dandy and Attack on Titan ended, but even at this pace we'd need a new thread every ~7 weeks regardless, monthly is more regular/organized. Plus Kill La Kill will liven things up.
So calm and collected. YOU SHOULD BE PANICKING MORE
Oh, Kill la Kill will bring in the comments.
Oh boy will it bring in the comments...especially when we hit THAT episode.
The thing about Kill la Kill is
I don't know what episode is THAT episode. I have a strong suspicion about one, but it could actually be several.
Imperial Bishop
Banned
If Kill la Kill doesn't save Toonami, nothing will.
Except maybe AOT season 2.
Let's look a little less far into the future.
SAO II, the most necessary of necessary evils.
Imperial Bishop
Banned
SAO didn't really make big waves during its run.
I am surprised how many still want SAO II for name alone when it was just plum awful and not in the good way. If it brings in the ratings I suppose I could grin and bear it.
It also aired at 2 AM
It also aired at 2 AM
KLK has many episodes that are sure to generate REACTIONS. Some of those reactions for some of those episodes won't be good ones though
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