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Toonami |Jun14| Lu Lu Lala Lu

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Ugh, was too tired last night to watch anything. Will catch up this week.
Nice sketch dump SAB.
One of your best yet. Amazing stuff. Loving all of the colors.
Nice Splatoon crossover. Just noticed that. So excited for that game, heh.
 
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Later.
Great stuff
Splatoon x Toonami!
Can we expect some smash bros coming up? XD
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
Gooooood morning everyone. Feel so relaxed right now.

Attack on Titan
Surprise! Eren became a Titan! Don't worry, this gets explained and it's not the silver lining that you might think it is.

Bleach
Our real introduction to Facebook! ... Man he sucks. Though not as much (manga spoilerz)
the imagination Quincy Zaraki fights, now he's lame as fuck.

Shippuden
I still question how the Disney XD viewers got through this every week. They're an even younger audience, they would get bored easier.

One Piece
Believe or not, Wanze is not a Devil Fruit user. There are plenty of bizarre people that don't have them.

Blue Exorcist
I know people are tired of me complaining this is filler, so I'm not going to say anything.
Except for the one part where words could have solved the problem... .you know the one.

Black Lagoon
Well... that got really dark.

Beware the Batman
Everyone is still stupid. At least Katana finally knowing the truth means this show will finally go somewhere.
 

Zonic

Gives all the fucks
If I have the time/people want to, I'll go back & grab all the reactions from Black Lagoon's reveal about the twins.
 
Didn't think it was particularly specific, but alright. Was sort of joking, that's not ACTUALLY what happens, nor am I saying it's good or bad, but you should probably remove the unspoilered quote. I get that you wouldn't want to know if the next episodes are "boring" or not though.
 

LOLDSFAN

Member
Next episode opens with the most animu scene yet. It also has Eren almost questioning himself before ALL TITANS MUST DIE. After those scenes, the next 3 episodes are pretty much a series of dramatic speeches.

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Seriously though guys. Please stop telling us what the next AoT episodes will be like. I don't want to know if they're good or bad I just want to watch them ok thank you.
 
When I get out of work and after the us/portugal game I'll dive into all the shows I missed. Sadly I may miss the next two weeks being in Alaska on vacation with the family
 

Amikami

Banned
Kakashi gif used kinda appropriately? Kinda. I'm sure those aren't huge spoilers but I don't necessarily want the next 4 episodes outlined for me.

Sad because I enjoy spending time with you guys and girls, I'm not sad at all about the trip :p

Aww. We gunna miss you too bass. Let's throw a Bass party in celebration of his depar-I mean return.
 

Zonic

Gives all the fucks
When I get out of work and after the us/portugal game I'll dive into all the shows I missed. Sadly I may miss the next two weeks being in Alaska on vacation with the family
Let us know when you watch Black Lagoon. I don't wanna post all the reactions yet if you haven't seen it.
 
Can you also tell us what happens in the other shows next week? It's not like we're going to watch it or anything.
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Naruto has "ninjas" "fighting" for the next 3 episodes. There may also be flashbacks.
Bleach has exposition.
Space Dandy has Dandy in space.

No need to be condescending. I could have just FORGOTTEN the spoiler text too. That emote is really bugging the hell out of me.
 

Seda

Member
Some very quick thoughts:

One Piece - This might sound odd, but I've become 'looser' with how I handle wackiness. One Piece is just that kind of show you have to go with the flow, allow yourself to accept that things are just going to be weird/bonkers at times.

EDIT: As for the Wanze stuff. It's clear he's supposed to be annoying as heck, and weird as heck. It's clear that his odd behavior is frustrating as heck. Sometimes I think when a show is deliberately trying to do something like that, it has mixed results in how effective it is and if people take to it. Perhaps sometimes it's so effective that people dislike watching this part because of it. So is that truly a successful then or no? It's working for me I think though, in a positive way.

Blue Exorcist - It's frustrating when problems arise because characters don't try to explain themselves for some reason. Definitely not a problem limited to this show.

EDIT: To extrapolate on the previous two thoughts, when a show/story is intentionally trying to paint a character in a certain way, it's a tricky thing to do. Sometimes a character may show a moment of weakness, a moment of doubt, a moment of stupidity, or make a bad decision. I think people are naturally drawn to characters that are competent and cool, and rarely have these issues. But character development often starts with a character /not/ behaving in the ideal way, so that they can grow from there. But it's up to the media to make it believable. Like with Konekomaru having his 'shadow' moment. Perhaps he might be a better character now that this episode has passed? I don't have much faith in the show to do anything more with him though.

Black Lagoon - Chang's sarcasm ("Thank you, young lady" & "Perfect end to a perfect night") is one of those things that while you probably will be able to infer it from subtitles, it comes much better when you hear the vocal inflections. This in general is one reason I typically prefer dubs - how phrasing and inflection has meaning in addition to words spoken - just a severe example in this case.
 

Seda

Member
We'll use this thread through next weekend. 20000 isn't a hard limit anymore really. The Steam May thread had 22000 posts, for example.
 

Amikami

Banned
Oh good news. It'll be good to be back on track come July. Being off kilter like this has felt...wrong. Not that I'm an organized person or anything.
 

Gorillaz

Member
Overall I missed most stuff. I saw probably the last 5 mins of lagoon, mainly that chang gunfight.I like how everything he says drips sarcasm like seda mentioned, the delivery lines like "thank you, little lady" comes off a little better when you hear it rather then see it like in subs. Maybe it's VA thing

I saw Samurai Jack for 3 mins. Something about a smelly ass dragon. Jack pls.


Overall how was the block?


edit: saw a few drunk post of me...ugggh
 

daveo42

Banned
Hmm....just woke up. At least the sleep was good.

Naruto
Beyond DBZ pacing going on here. I am actually surprised I put up with it when it first aired.

One Piece
This is is just filled with really awesome characters that are at least interesting in one way or another Wanze is just great as a midboss and Sanji pulls out the badass. I love it when he shows off. Still, best character of the arc is Sogeking. Nothing beats Sogeking.

Blue Exorcist
Everyone is dumb. Power of trust saves all or something. I'm curious why they decided to put a one-off episode here when there are only a few episodes left in the season.

Black Lagoon
This show is just too real for most people, especially animu fans used to cute younger sisters and friendship saving the day in the end. Life is dark and brutal and BL never shies away from the gritty details and that's one of the reasons why I like it so much.

Beware the Batman
Don't remember much of this as I took a short trip to Roanapur during this time last night.

Naruto
He's a complete idiot, but at this point his brashness seems to work well for his character.

FMA: B
Lt. Ross coming back was something I should have expected, but didn't and the payoff was great when I first read this series. Had nearly the same impact first watching it. Same goes with the Scar reveal.

Samurai Jack
We got to learn about dragon anatomy and the TARDIS effect.

Clone Wars
Decent lead in with awesome music ends in the 2nd half falling flat. Light speed resolution at the end kind of killed it.

SBT
The episode that helped define this show. Killed before its time.
 

Levyne

Banned
So the last thing I saw on AoT was Eren getting eaten. Hope I didn't miss too much.

Um, Blue Exorcist I think the last episode was at the carnival/fair or whatever.

Black Lagoon was the Roberta fight.

Bleach I actually don't remember much except a like the first episode after filler. One Piece...uh..Sanji on a train. Naruto.....something about ninjas.

Nothing important, I'm good to go for next week.
 

Seda

Member
So, upon learning that the twins were Romanian, why exactly was Balalaika's first instinct to check porn videos?

Best explanation I think is that she must've heard about these characters (perhaps specifically this set of twins or just this practice in general) beforehand, maybe only briefly or in passing, but enough to support a 'hunch' enough to be determined to sit through 'a night and a half' looking for them.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
So, upon learning that the twins were Romanian, why exactly was Balalaika's first instinct to check porn videos?

Best explanation I think is that she must've heard about these characters (perhaps specifically this set of twins or just this practice in general) beforehand, maybe only briefly or in passing, but enough to support a 'hunch' enough to be determined to sit through 'a night and a half' looking for them.

A lot of kids got sold into sex slavery after the fall of the Soviet Union in that part of the world. She knew that since she lived through it. The scariest part of this arc is that what happened to these twins actually happened to real people.
 
So, upon learning that the twins were Romanian, why exactly was Balalaika's first instinct to check porn videos?

Best explanation I think is that she must've heard about these characters (perhaps specifically this set of twins or just this practice in general) beforehand, maybe only briefly or in passing, but enough to support a 'hunch' enough to be determined to sit through 'a night and a half' looking for them.

i think it was because it was pretty much the first thing on the list of possibilities of "what fucked up shit happens to Romanian children to make them this way?"
 

Seda

Member
A lot of kids got sold into sex slavery after the fall of the Soviet Union in that part of the world. She knew that since she lived through it. The scariest part of this arc is that what happened to these twins actually happened to real people.

I figured she might be familiar with Eastern European nations and happenings but I was unaware that child sex slavery was historically significant and prevalent enough to be at near the forefront of the thought process here.

i think it was because it was pretty much the first thing on the list of possibilities of "what fucked up shit happens to Romanian children to make them this way?"

Suppose so. She was must've been really certain she'd find them in there in any case.


Good responses. Thanks.
 

Gorillaz

Member
Yea forgot the show mentioned that but yea there were stories of kids being sold into sex slavery around that time. Others became child soldiers. Generations basically destroyed.


Its crazy being in this show,but that did happen. Really fucked up.
 
i'd have to say i'm not sure how i feel about Black Lagoon incorporating this idea. it's a show that seems generally like it's meant to be fun. it also kinda veers into the ridiculous sometimes, even beyond the general action movie "shooting two guns jumping through the air" stuff; i mean, we're talking about twin incestuous cross-dressing assassin children who wield an axe and a gun that's bigger than they are. the show has shown a more serious side so i think it does manage to squeak by at least, but it's pretty damn close.
 

Seda

Member
i'd have to say i'm not sure how i feel about Black Lagoon incorporating this idea. it's a show that seems generally like it's meant to be fun. it also kinda veers into the ridiculous sometimes, even beyond the general action movie "shooting two guns jumping through the air" stuff; i mean, we're talking about twin incestuous cross-dressing assassin children who wield an axe and a gun that's bigger than they are. the show has shown a more serious side so i think it does manage to squeak by at least, but it's pretty damn close.

It's definitely quite the tonal shift. Doesn't feel like a cheesy action movie anymore and tackling (or at least incorporating) a touchy subject. I think at the moment I'm fine with something different for a small experimental diversion here - but need to see how they wrap this up.
 

Moaradin

Member
It isn't the only time Black Lagoon tackles darker subjects. Don't worry about it though. The show still has lighter arcs here and there.
 

daveo42

Banned
It's definitely quite the tonal shift. Doesn't feel like a cheesy action movie anymore and tackling (or at least incorporating) a touchy subject. I think at the moment I'm fine with something different for a small experimental diversion here - but need to see how they wrap this up.

I think that how it's presented works even if there is some clash between the serious nature of what is being presented and how it's been presented in the story.

The overly stereotypical Nazis and the over the top violence paired with the fact that there are actually people out there who buy into what Hitler was selling and work towards rebuilding the Nazi party. The horrible accents and overtop gun chase paired with the disturbingly apt political points made my Takenaka. The absurdity of children assassins wielding a massive gun and an axe mowing down trained thugs meeting with the facts that kids were actually sold into slavery and became the playthings of depraved, disgusting men.

The juxtaposition helps to soften the blow of what is actually happening without lessening the actual impact it has on the viewer. I think it works.
 
Yeah the show has a very unique way of presenting itself. I remember there was a thread a while back wondering if there was anything else like the show and no could come up with anything else other than what the author had already done. Balancing these incredibly dark moments with comedy and movie esque action is pretty hard so that's not surprising. You'll guys will see when we get to the next arc.

And yeah what happened to the kids was did indeed happen when the USSR fell. There were massive amounts of children sold into state run orphanages by poor rural peasants due to being forbidden any sort of contraceptive or access to abortion by the state and since they were encouraged to have children for benefits well... Even before the government fell these were massively corrupt organizations but when the dictatorship ended and everything fell to chaos... What do you do with unwanted children with no record. Sold as child soldiers or slaves for the most part.
 

Seda

Member
It isn't the only time Black Lagoon tackles darker subjects. Don't worry about it though. The show still has lighter arcs here and there.

Nah, I think I'm fine with it. Not necessarily a bad or good thing in my mind, just different. I am curious how this resolves though.

I think that how it's presented works even if there is some clash between the serious nature of what is being presented and how it's been presented in the story.

The overly stereotypical Nazis and the over the top violence paired with the fact that there are actually people out there who buy into what Hitler was selling and work towards rebuilding the Nazi party. The horrible accents and overtop gun chase paired with the disturbingly apt political points made my Takenaka. The absurdity of children assassins wielding a massive gun and an axe mowing down trained thugs meeting with the facts that kids were actually sold into slavery and became the playthings of depraved, disgusting men.

The juxtaposition helps to soften the blow of what is actually happening without lessening the actual impact it has on the viewer. I think it works.

Generally agreed. It's still over-the-top enough (or your word "absurd") that while the subject matter can be seen as quite serious, it's taking this creepy idea and managing to turn it into a strangely compelling plotline, in a somewhat cheesy way that Black Lagoon has always kinda been. It's supposed to bring a disturbing vibe into the mix and it certainly does so.

Chang puts it: "That's one dark fairytale, but somehow fitting for our world, wouldn't you say?"
 

Zonic

Gives all the fucks
I'm gonna assume Bass is watching/has watched BL at this point (maybe I'll add his once he posts), so guess I'll finally post what happened last time night on One Piece ToonamiGAF:

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wat
Edit: Uuuugh.
Its all morally downhill from here folks!
Kiddie porn and snuff films? Wtf
Damn, that's some dedication.

And pretty fucked up.
Kiddy porn
snuff films........nope
Well then.
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Yep. That happened.
A night and a half looking through child porn videos? Balalaika is dedicated
... The fuck?
Omfg what did she say o_O

They were in porno with each other?
She watched HOW MUCH Child Porn?!?
Um

ok

well

um

welp
Child porn, the fuck?
No wonder they're so f'd up...
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I need an adult. Preferably not one from this show.
That's fucked up shit.
And now you all understand why the creepy vampire twins are so fucked up
There are not enough adults, not in the entire universe.
Well....fuck.
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?
Well this got fucking dark.
.......um
show just got a lot darker
Kids subjected to that kind of shit from the worst kind of people. This show...how it doesn't shy away from reality at all and gives you all of the nitty gritty. Chang gets it too ya know.
Remember that episode of Ghost in the Shell with that one character that skins people alive? Remember how Adult Swim used to put a disclaimer just before that episode? This arc would have totally gotten the same treatment a few years ago.
"incest"

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"snuff porn"

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"involving underaged twins"

WHAT THE ACTUAL DAMN FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU........

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THIS IS WORSE THAN LITTLE DRAGON GIRL AND ASUNA GETTIN' 16.5'D IN SAO COMBINED.
 
Watching black lagoon right now impressions soon

First half: damn that was intense as hell, chang and balalanka (sp?) have great on screen chemistry. Twins continue to be freaky as hell

Part 2: WHELP that innocent orphan got fucked

Oh snap balalika is gonna crush revy and eva for getting in the way

Edit: I guess I was supposed to be shocked by the fact the twins were raped/tortured/snuff filmed, I dunno makes a lot of sense and explains why their view of the world is so messed up. Yeah its really damn dark but it makes sense in the series Black Lagoon is. This is a story about the real black market and child pornagraphy and snuff films is sadly a thing that happens as fucked up as it is :/
 

ckohler

Member
Attack on Titan - Nice to see Armin finally toughen up. Chill out Sasha, you’re too cool to freak out. Suddenly… FALCON PAWNCH! Oh hi Eren. Fun episode but I knew the twist coming in.

Bleach - Tsun-Fullbringer continues to bring the humor and fun. Sneezing on people is gross, though. Please, stop trying to emote Chad. The tough guy named “Moe?!” needs to just go away. Oh hi Aizen-wannabe.

Space Dandy - I forgot what happened. Just kidding. The book alien was cute but overall one of the weaker episodes in the series.

Naruto Shippuden - I HAVE already forgotten what happened in this show but it doesn’t matter because I’m now certain nothing ever does.

One Piece - Wanze is dumb but whatever. Sanji and Franky kick some butt but their opponents don’t seem threatening so there is zero tension. I loved that the Sniper King theme keeps popping up. Not a bad episode.

Blue Exorcist - Typical filler plot device to have the characters not use their words to explain away simple misunderstandings. Also a forgettable episode but at least the show continues to look good animation wise. Too little Kamiki focus, though.

Black Lagoon - By now, I shouldn’t be surprised by how dark this show is willing to go but I never thought it would go “there”. This arc has certainly made me more uncomfortable than I ever thought I could get watching Toonami and yet I can’t deny that it’s quite compelling dramatically.

Beware the Boringman - Now that Katana knows who Bats is maybe something interesting will happen (lol). Don’t worry kids! That lady isn’t dead; she’s just a soulless husk. What’s actually scary is that judging by the consistently empty streets, restaurants, and buildings I now believe this entire show takes place in Bat-Purgatory.

Naruto - The episode that proves that in ninja school, everyone fails upwards. The idea was clever (using a written exam to test information gathering) but Naruto passes only by luck just further proves he’s a terrible protagonist.

Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood - One of the weaker episodes that simply shows what happened to Ross, sets up Scar’s connection to the Rockbells and sets the groundwork for the overall origin story for the series. Still, not bad.
 
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