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[Man God]

Kudelia is shorter than I thought.

 

[gamerguy2002]

Don't tell me what to do.

Bu-Bu-But think of your poor brain cells!!!!! D:

You could be doing anything else, like vidya!

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

Atra stay winning. Such a cool little girl.

Now I get death flags from her.

 

[Seda]

1. Her whole point the entire series is that she wanted to fight for better conditions for people, right? I think it started off as an innocent desire, but from the birth of the series, people wanted to kill her for it... it's escalating around her.

2. Bad working conditions, being mistreated, not getting paid enough for EA for their voice work, the usual.

3. Didn't we hear early on, after they failed to assassinate Kudelia, that they'd use her in another way? They've been over-inflating her important and clout, using her to ignorantly lead needy people into slaughter. A figurehead that lined their targets up for easy shooting.

The twist for them is that she's not cracking over being in the middle of a murdered rally, she jumps right back and tries to use it to strengthen her resolve.

1-2.) If it's working conditions, the show has done a terrible job showing it. She's said they've been "beaten and oppressed" (I think those are the words she used), but it's not compelling nor will it gain my empathy if they are just words and with nothing behind them to actually get me invested in this "cause" which they've danced around the whole series.

3.) I'm talking about the rebels who are fighting against Gjallerhorn. We know Kudelia is from some upper class family on Mars, but I'm having a hard time believing that alone is enough for people to rally behind her for their cause, whatever it is.

 

[Schadenfreude]

I like how he just calls her "the cook". Wait, TOM just sits on the desert sand sometimes? Cute!

 

[Man God]

Trust the system.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Ace detective Mikazuki Augus on the case. Beating up a little girl. BEST SOLDIERS!

Bu-Bu-But think of your poor brain cells!!!!! D:

You could be doing anything else, like vidya!

I can do both! Currently grinding in Yo-Kai Watch 2!

 

[Schadenfreude]

Shut the fuck up, Fumitan.

 

[SAB CA]

1-2.) If it's working conditions, the show has done a terrible job showing it. She's said they've been "beaten and oppressed" (I think those are the words she used), but it's not compelling nor will it gain my empathy if they are just words and with nothing behind them to actually get me invested in this "cause" which they've danced around the whole series.

3.) I'm talking about the rebels who are fighting against Gjallerhorn. We know Kudelia is from some upper class family on Mars, but I'm having a hard time believing that alone is enough for people to rally behind her for their cause, whatever it is.

Yeah, I think they're trying to weave a "The oppressed VS the oppressors, no matter the issue!" situation, but I don't think WE really have been pushed to feeling like things are all that bad. We get hints (Child soldiers here, lame living conditions and mentions of people escaping the slums there), but we don't really see much actively happening.

I actually wished the "bad guys" we more obviously, organized and evil. The most we see is evil talking behind the scenes, but we could really see things like people being killed off as they try to figure out Tekkaden's weaknesses, or people obviously in dire straits.

As far as Kudy and the rallying behind her, I think it's just the fact that she's a person attached to people in charge, who want to fight (politically?) for them. I feel like the only thing that makes people impressed with her is that she's obviously been the target of assassination over and over.

Overall, the show does feel like it's depending on character designs, fancy words, and the basic framing of a story to carry it. I don't really feel much for Add to dictionary as an entity yet either, and the big bads feel more like big misunderstandings, unless they're comically evil. Gundam does like to have relatable good and evil sides, but I think the evil is a bit too soft from our angle, right now.

 

[Raxus]

At this point the author falls asleep at the keyboard and accidently wrote Fumitan x1000 times under Kudelia's script

 

[Raxus]

Roundabout!

 

[Schadenfreude]

I wish we could have seen Mika's commando adventures saving Atra and Biscuit. Kudelia is really kinda stupid. Time for another episode.

 

[SAB CA]

Why did these guys lead a protest with guns and tanks? Like... really dumb. They'd have been safer protesting with picket signs and megaphones.

 

[Raxus]

This is going as slow as I expected. Damn shame too. I almost did a triple post.

 

[Seda]

Yeah, I think they're trying to weave a "The oppressed VS the oppressors, no matter the issue!" situation, but I don't think WE really have been pushed to feeling like things are all that bad.

Yeah I agree this is probably my hangup. On Mars we saw Atra apparently working in a shop, Biscuit's family works with a farm. On dort people seems have houses, employment, clothes.. so I'm not sure what the "oppression" I'm supposed to be seeing is? We saw some homeless people on Mars in a flashback, but there was no indication that Gjallerhorn has anything to do with that.

The child soldier stuff was so long ago I don't remember how that particular group fit into the picture or aligns with Gjallerhorn. I should probably refresh on that.

 

[Mizerman]

This is going as slow as I expected. Damn shame too. I almost did a triple post.

I wish there was a way to timeskip in real life.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Okay, so maybe I missed it in-between all this Dort and brother nonsense but why did that random dude put in a spy-maid to watch that little girl? She was nothing back then.

 

[Man God]

Ninja maid double agents are always useful.

 

[SAB CA]

Yeah I agree this is probably my hangup. On Mars we saw Atra apparently working in a shop, Biscuit's family works with a farm. On dort people seems have houses, employment, clothes.. so I'm not sure what the "oppression" I'm supposed to be seeing is? We saw some homeless people on Mars in a flashback, but there was no indication that Gjallerhorn has anything to do with that.

The child soldier stuff was so long ago I don't remember how that particular group fit into the picture or aligns with Gjallerhorn. I should probably refresh on that.

I too was totally surprised when Biscuit's family was working on lush, expansive farmland.

I think the first commericials did the show a bit of a disservice, but that's also to say the first episodes did the same. We get the idea we were seeing horribly oppressed kids when were going to burst out of basically slave labor, and take a desperate girl to earth to fight for civil rights...

... and all of that kinda happens, but it's lost a lot of clarity. I don't LIKE shows spoon feeding me things, but I also don't like them to let things flounder about and only depend on hints and suggestions.

Okay, so maybe I missed it in-between all this Dort and brother nonsense but why did that random dude put in a spy-maid to watch that little girl? She was nothing back then.

She was cute, blonde, opinionated, and had A REAL BOOK! All the ingredients of becoming a future Joan d'Arc.

 

[Raxus]

Have we had a named maid that wasn't some assassin/badass yet?

Black Lagoon, HxH.

All crazy maids.

 

[Schadenfreude]

I mean, the way Savarin was going about it was bad but he just wanted the Dort dudes not to die. Good intentions, bad methods.

 

[Man God]

There's no freedom of travel for lower station people for one thing.

 

[Seda]

I don't LIKE shows spoon feeding me things, but I also don't like them to let things flounder about and only depend on hints and suggestions.

Hah, I'm pretty sure I said this exact thing in a podcast wrt this. Here I just feel like I need more reason to understand what the underlying conflict to everything here is.

 

[Raxus]

Ok :-/

 

[Schadenfreude]

This is a weird video.

 

[Dr. Chaotix]

Kind of liked that video actually.

 

[UltraGunner]

The Roger Rabbit reboot took a dark turn

 

[Man God]

Naruto started early this week.

 

[Mizerman]

I...do not know what to say about that music video.

 

[Man God]

Gaby and Ty are having an awesome weekend.

 

[Schadenfreude]

You'd think people in the news would recognize someone like Kudelia.

The Roger Rabbit reboot took a dark turn

What are you talking about, man? Roger Rabbit was already fucking dark.

 

[Man God]

We are the evil New World Order after all...

 

[Raxus]

We are the evil New World Order after all...

Isn't that right commander Steven Austin and Corporal Hogan?

 

[Schadenfreude]

Those were some real long last words.

 

[Man God]

Sabre fucked up as usual.

 

[Raxus]

Like Beetlejuice, if you say Fumitan's name enough she appears whether she wants to or not.

 

[Seda]

when's jojo

 

[Schadenfreude]

You can't make me care about Fumitan.

 

[Man God]

when's jojo

Cancelled for IBO.

 

[Mizerman]

What are you talking about, man? Roger Rabbit was already fucking dark.

Years later and that scene still chills me the hell out.

 

[Raxus]

Cancelled for IBO.

It's for the best. Episode 3 sucks.

 

[Raxus]

"We have to get off Dort as soon as we can"

If only they said this 3 episodes ago.

 

[Man God]

They were right, this first episode of Fate/Zero TOONAMI is showing goes on and on forever.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Man, this marathon is going at a snail's pace. Time for more Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans.

 

[Raxus]

Man, this marathon is going at a snail's pace. Time for more Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans.

Almost.....there.....

Do we get a t-shirt if we lasted all marathon?

 

[Man God]

Damn that Mingo!

 

[Raxus]

I don't remember Costco being this violent last time I went to visit. Must be Black Friday.

 

[Seda]

who will make the first triple post tonight

 

[Schadenfreude]

That was the employee of the month. RIP.

 

[SAB CA]

I think DORT saga could have been better with:

-- Replacing the "Human Debris" arc entirely. Move some of that mecha-battle to the escalation of killing innocents in this protest.

-- Some of the rebels actually noticing they were walking into a death trap. They're all SO STUPID.

These workers really are overly innocent idiots led to easy slaughter. I guess everyone is as innocently ready to jump to *REVOLUTION!* as Kudelia. Fumitan, NO ONE here has had their eyes clouded by reality.