Schadenfreude
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And yet they eat stuff like SAO up. smh, japan.
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And yet they eat stuff like SAO up. smh, japan.
Not exactly a fair comparison since Trigun and Sword Art Online hail from two different time periods. Also, I would point out that Sword Art Online is outdrawing Soul Eater and One Piece every now and again.
Schadenfreude
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Okay. And yet they eat stuff like Sexy Commando Gaiden: Sugoi yo!! Masaru-san up. smh, Japan.
This is an internet misconception according to people more in the know (than me) over at animegaf.
It's almost like people from disparate cultures and different continents have different tastes in entertainment media. Who knew? 
To be SLIGHTLY fair, "we" eat up shit like Twilight and stuff like the Cleveland Show runs circles around even the creme de la creme of anime in ratings.
To be SLIGHTLY fair, "we" eat up shit like Twilight and stuff like the Cleveland Show runs circles around even the creme de la creme of anime in ratings.
Not sure what they are saying but Cowboy Bebop had tremendous problems during its first and second runs which did hamper the title. Hmm, more data is needed before a definitive statement can be made.
If you are dissing Jersey Shore, we are going to be fighting. Season 1 is one of the most brilliant seasons of a TV show ever.
Unspeakable Evil
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Cue research montage.
To each their own. I grew out of reality TV-like programs long ago, so shows like that are not something to my interests. & this is coming from someone who watched a lot of seasons of Survivor & Amazing Race as a kid.
Doctor Decimate
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i get the impression the expansion wouldn't have happened without Space Dandy.
foxuzamaki
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We cant smh at japan when we have ALOT of shit on TV in the west
Unspeakable Evil
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That's a Big L right there.
SousedLouse
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Sometimes I twist and turn in bed at night, trying to figure out what kind of genre SAO falls under in-show. Is it a social, action, or sim RPG? Or some bastardization of the three? Is it real-time or turn based? If the devs intended to have marriage and sex involved, did they intend to release spreadsheet programs and peripherals at some point down the line? Is it a motion-sensing game, or are simple mouse clicks or gestures enough? And if it's the latter, then why the heck are the boss battles so elaborate? And why the hell is there so much dummy data left in the game for powerful or alternate skills? I know the author didn't know anything about MMOs when he wrote the novels, but these questions haunt me all the same, and the MST3K mantra cannot provide me with comfort.
Other than all that, I'm inclined to agree with you, although the show's cliffhangers are just awful.
-why are they going to try to get cowboy bebop back, have they not played it enough.
Why doesn't anyone ask for hunter x hunter,hajime no ippo or claymore (surprisingly all three animated by madhouse).
If I had pick one of the four requested shows (Titan,DBZ,fairy tail, toriko) I would chose toriko it's a great action adventure anime and anime/toonami/fans are in some desperate need of some true manly-ness it's gotten to a sad point fans don't even know what manly is any more which often results in emo-ness being mistaken for manly-ness.
We also had a Fred TV show. ... Yeah.
To be fair, I'm sure there's plenty of terrible Japanese TV shows. We don't see them because they stay in Japan.
Casual fans don't know those series. Even though Ippo has been around since 1989.
The problem with Toriko is that the anime is severely toned down compared to the original manga. It looks like a certain company with "4" in the name took their scalpel to it, but no, Toei intended for the series to look that way.
Doctor Decimate
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i think Reindeer Chick is the only episode i'd label as blatantly terrible. the rest is only sorta bad to mediocre. the two before this one came pretty close to terrible, however.
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Doctor Decimate
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I'M CALLING IT AN EXPANSION DAMMIT ;-;
I actually was talking to my brother last week basically saying: "Am I just getting caught-up in the Sword Art Online negativity or do I genuinely think it's terrible on its own?" We discussed the whole existence of Yui, why she exists, what she 'added' to the show, and if she was at all a sympathetic 'character'.
Uh, basically we agreed that the whole thing was really quite stupid and I don't think watching it alone I would feel much differently about it.
Of course I would like the 11:30 slot to be a permanent thing, but even if it's only for Space Dandy I still think it's pretty darn cool.
Unspeakable Evil
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I forget everything about a SAO episode a minute after it finishes.
I'm OK with this.
I'm OK with this.
grandjedi6
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Oh course Miyazaki films aren't a part of the movie nights. Those rights are a mess between Disney and GKIDS. Plus they're probably the most expensive anime movie rights to get.
I would be surprised if the movies weren't all Funimation films.
Also, Kill La Kill is now in the Top 5 most wanted? What did it replace? And why is HunterxHunter still not there :/
I would be surprised if the movies weren't all Funimation films.
Also, Kill La Kill is now in the Top 5 most wanted? What did it replace? And why is HunterxHunter still not there :/
I remember they said SAO was in the top 5 (I think #1 above AoT, amazingly). I'm not sure what exactly 6 through 10 was, so not sure on what exactly Kill la Kill "replaced".
Probably because it isn't even licensed yet and there is no chance for a dub in the near future.
It's been licensed (by funimation most likely) for a good chunk of money apparently. There just hasn't been word on the dub yet.
grandjedi6
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I looked it up. Back in September the top 5 was:
DBZ, Fairy Tail, Attack on Titan, Naruto Shippuden, and Toriko
So Kill la Kill > Shippuden apparently
I didn't say it was going to happen. And those reasons don't stop Kill la Kill from being wanted. Or Shippuden and DBZ which are impossible for different reasons.
Anyway, now that Space Dandy is confirmed, Attack on Titan has to be the most likely new show at some point, right? Basically waiting on Funimation to finalize its release plans.
fairy Tail is going to be our Bleach replacement, isn't it?
I've been trying to watch SAO from a more academic standpoint, basically trying to find what it does well, why it works, why it's written the way it is, that sort of thing (in addition to a normal watch) and I still think it's really bad. I can't think of anything that has been executed properly so far.
This is not a good movie.
Aw man. First IGPX now FLCL (and GitS in a way)? D:
Nooooo stahp!!! Let it die already!!! Seriously spend that time and effort working to get rights for shows that haven't aired on Toonami yet.
Thank goodness. Toonami has been getting a little too re-run happy lately. I guess the first 3 hours will be where the parties at for the foreseeable future.
Woah were did you read this? Let's pray to the base god for blu rays.
Doctor Decimate
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i'm not sure if i believe this anymore. i think if they had it they'd have said something by now.
grandjedi6 said:
i think people maybe gave up on Shippuden at this point.
MetatronM said:
it really isn't. but it might be in their best interest to show it in like.....four years.
Doctor Decimate
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i think it's bad in general. it's just a collection of fights and scenes that now have no weight because they've been removed from context; the Luffy/Vivi confrontation comes like five minutes into the movie. everything just feels so rushed.
grandjedi6
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That's the flaw with every "Episode of ____" movie. The only one to avoid that was Episode of Nami, and that's because the Arlong Park arc is shorter. And even that one had the same speed through beginning (Hi I'm Nami! Oh it's the Buggy fight. Kuro? Hey it's Barati... kthxbye stealin' the ship now).
Thankfully, Toei has made the Episode of movies into tv specials now instead of full featured films.
Nope, it's just bad.
If we're going to have a One Piece movie, Strong World is the best bet. Especially since it's already been dubbed.
Though I would like Funi to go back and dub Movies 4 and 6. Maybe 7 for a joke movie night (take a shot for every instance of "plot").
Though I would like Funi to go back and dub Movies 4 and 6. Maybe 7 for a joke movie night (take a shot for every instance of "plot").
Strong World is second best behind 6 but you'd think they'd want to sell some DVDs by not airing it first. Also it would legit ruin a surprise that's coming in the next 30 episodes of One Piece and one not so surprising thing that happens, well, a long ass time from now.
Movie 8 is good example on why you shouldn't abridge big 20ep+ manga/anime story arcs into a movie, your forced to cut so much from the story to fit it into movie length that it just becomes a collection scenes missing large portions of the story missing.
Movie 2,4,7,9,strong world, episode of nami and film z are good any of these.
Movie 2,4,7,9,strong world, episode of nami and film z are good any of these.
Yeah, I'd love to see Strong World, but it's way too spoilery.
I didn't like the Alabasta movie too much, but I'd be interested in how people who never watched the original episodes would take it. To be honest, it'd be a good way to fill in some of the backstory of OP for the people who started watching with Toonami.
I didn't like the Alabasta movie too much, but I'd be interested in how people who never watched the original episodes would take it. To be honest, it'd be a good way to fill in some of the backstory of OP for the people who started watching with Toonami.
Another thing that I hate about it is that there are lots of people out their who (seemingly) genuinely like the show. And for the life of me, I just can't understand why anyone would like this. Twilight is terrible, but I understand how a bunch of insecure girls would like a love story where women are treated like disposable garbage, and they can overlook the terrible writing. The Walking Dead TV show is hot garbage, but plenty of people just "like seeing Zombies get destroyed" , so it continues to get watched.
What does SAO do that lets people overlook all of its flaws and find enjoyment? Sometimes the action looks cool.... but it's so rare, and there are dozens of other series that do it better. I can't think of anything good this show does.
Cuz waifus
Doctor Decimate
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i kind of agree. i don't really see the appeal of this show either. i mean, i can see somebody not getting as bent out of shape about this stuff as we are, but absolutely LOVING this show? why?
I can go on Sankakucomplex and find at least 10 other anime that aired that season that were far bigger on the Waifu side.
That website sounds scary and I'm staying away from it.
I just don't get why people act like SAO murdered their mother, cryogenically froze their dad, drove their brother insane, indirectly killed their martial arts master and forced you into giant robot gladiatorial combat for the right to rule the universe so they can steal the metal akira monster your dad and brother created.
I think it might be the idea of escapism. They might not be really finding enjoyment with the show, but with what it represents. I've said before that the setting of SAO is a good one with a lot of potential and that SAO just hasn't been able to capitalize on it in any way whatsoever. People might be identifying with that potential and not the actual execution.
That's the closest I can get you to an answer. If it's not that, then all I can say is people have bad taste.
It's because of the squandered potential. Despite being given many shows in this setting, none of them have managed to live up to their potential. Not a single one of them. It's the same reason the manga thread hates Naruto, it could very very easily be many times better than it is but still manages to suck. So that sucking is amplified by what it could very easily have been.
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