Toonami Shows Survivor

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Round 3 Results
Hamtaro in 82nd place, with 42 kills and 15 saves (Net = 27)

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Round 4 voting is on!
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Kill: Bleach- boring shounen. Switched from DBZ since there are too many saves to overcome.
Kill: Bleach

Save: Duel Masters- in order to help bleach die.
 
Kill: Zatch Bell
Kill: Zatch Bell
Save: DBZ

ZB needs to go because I don't like the name. DBZ isn't a great show, but good enough to deserve to stay.

Yo, if you guys want to kill DBZ that's cool, but at least throw one of your kills at ZB.
 
DBZ is an awful show for many reasons discussed on the previous page, it needs to die a painful death instead of being viewed through rose tinted glasses. It popularized so much bullshit such as:

- Explaing your attack to the enemy to waste air time instead of fighting
- Nonsensical jobbing from the main characters to prolong story arcs
- Predictable arcs that don't differentiate much from the first one
- Killing off heroes to create drama but providing a 'get out of jail free' card to bring them back from the dead with no real consequences
- Cheap villain trap cards in the form of transformations
- Filler content in the form of extra scenes, inflated dialogue, and non canon arcs that ultimately had no bearing on the overall story

DBZ is the original shitty long running shonen series that suffers a steep decline in quality. People vote for it based on nostalgia, not quality. It needs to be held accountable for its crimes, do the right thing.

#teamanythingbutdbz
 
The Hams went after DBZ and are now upset that the DBZ defense force reacted? Hamtaro didn't have to go, but you were the alpha threat. Now other shows will be picked off while you continue your crusade against DBZ.

Kill: Bakugan
Kill: Duel Masters

Two show that I believe should have gone before Hamtaro.

Save: DBZ

Because it shouldn't be targeted this early on.
 
Kill : Bleach
Kill : Zatch Bell
Save : Jackie Chan Adventures

One of these is a strategic vote, the other needs to be eliminated. I loved Jackie Chan adventures! I watched this show every morning before I went to school, I be it would hold up to this day. Would be a shame for it to get A) no love and B) eliminated before allot of trash that yet remains. unnoticed.. safe.. under this unwarranted, unjustified DBZ kill campaign.
 
The Ham alliance brought this on themselves when they took down One Piece. We wouldn't be in this mess if you guys hadn't taken it down. Now you guys are targeting DBZ cause your poor little hamster got killed?! We should all be targeting the crap shows first.

Anyway, I'll post up my kills and save in a moment after checking out what's still left on the list.

Edit: here's my kills/save

Kill: Zatch Bell
Kill: Bakugan - I can't stand this show at all. I don't know how my brothers watched this and the later series.

Save: DBZ - It led to the wonderful Team Four Star parodies years later.
 
Kill : Bleach
Kill : Zatch Bell
Save : Jackie Chan Adventures

One of these is a strategic vote, the other needs to be eliminated. I loved Jackie Chan adventures! I watched this show every morning before I went to school, I be it would hold up to this day. Would be a shame for it to get A) no love and B) eliminated before allot of trash that yet remains. unnoticed.. safe.. under this unwarranted, unjustified DBZ kill campaign.

Its okay man. JCA is a great show and had good story arcs. Much better than most shows that came out of KidsWB. I also recently watched it again on Netflix and yes it does still hold up. Unfortunately, I have to use my save for DBZ this go, but I don't think it is going to be evicted just yet.

Kill: Bakugan
Kill: Duel Masters
Save: Dragonball Z

Same votes and reasons as last time. There are truly terribly made shows (this is not a comment on the japanese versions of these shows. Those might be equally as bad.) that featured horrific stories and writing, as well as laughable dubbing to accompany it. Bakugan and Duel Masters are two of them. I'm also completely willing to admit that my love for DBZ is nostalgia. Not nearly the worst show on the list, but the flaws people list about it are not wrong. There is a reason Dragonball Z Kai was created. Toriyama agreed with the pacing issues, amongst other things. It is still entertaining though.
 
Kill: Batman The Animated Series
Kill: Super Friends

Save: Bleach

Reason: I've always liked Bleach. Ichigo is one of my favorite anime protagonists. I voted down Batman and Super Friends because I don't like super-hero stuff.
 
Alright, time to get serious.


Kill: Bakugan
Kill: Duel Masters

Save: Jackie Chan Adventures
I watched a couple episodes on Netflix a few weeks back. It's a charming show with some neat characters and really good action.

I was going to save DBZ, but Gucci made a very convincing argument, so I'll neither save nor kill it.
 
Current results of Round 4...

Bakugan Battle Brawlers: 8

Bleach: 6
Duel Masters: 6

Star Wars: The Clone Wars: 5

Dragon Ball Z: 2

Batman: The Animated Series: 1
Blue Dragon: 1
Naruto: 1
Naruto Shippuden: 1
Rave Master: 1
SD Gundam: 1
Storm Hawks: 1
Super Friends: 1
Zatch Bell: 1

Gundam Seed: -1
Jackie Chan Adventures: -1
Outlaw Star: -1
Samurai Jack: -1

Gundam Wing: -2

InuYasha: -4
 
I'd prefer if we didn't post results midway through the day. I think it's more fun when there's less certainty about what's in danger or not.
 
I'd prefer if we didn't post results midway through the day. I think it's more fun when there's less certainty about what's in danger or not.

Can't help myself. I'll be keeping a running tally no matter what, this is too important to leave to chance!

Also, that doesn't take into account the actual points values from previous rounds.
 
Can't help myself. I'll be keeping a running tally no matter what, this is too important to leave to chance!
Might be a good idea to keep the exact results to yourself. Ruins the suspense. You can try suggesting endangered shows if you want.

Edit: point values dont carry over.
 
Kill: Bakugan Battle Brawlers - another really shitty yugioh ripoff cash in.
Kill: Bleach - Most boring show on the block right now

Save: Dragon Ball Z - This show IS Toonami.
 
Kill: Batman the Animated Series
Kill: Batman the Animated series

Overrated

Save: DBZ

Fighting against a dumb campaign to kill off the show that is synonymous with Toonami and one of the better shows anyway, just because their show (not even an action show on what is supposed to be an action block) got rightfully outed.
 
I agree that kills and saves should be carried over, I was under the impression they did. It would make the game much more strategic.

Another rule for another time. Nothing in the OP suggested that points would roll over and to change it now would negatively effect the people who were going by the rules to begin with. It would change strategy and it would be pretty cool.
 
So, basically I could keep voting kill for Zatch Bell and it'd eventually have so many I could single-handedly kill it if we allowed kills/saves to accumulate?

I mean, when you put it that way I guess I'm down. But really, I like the current format and would prefer it to not change.

Kill: Zatch Bell
Kill: Zatch Bell
Save: DBZ

ZB has a stupid name and needs to go. DBZ is a decent show and should stay.
 
Votes carrying over would get annoying because it would boil down to saving or killing the same few shows round after round. The reset between rounds keeps it fresh. Carrying over votes would also make the imbalance between possible double kills and single saves even more pronounced; if people set their sights on one show it eventually just becomes impossible to save it without many more people voting to save than to kill.
 
So, basically I could keep voting kill for Zatch Bell and it'd eventually have so many I could single-handedly kill it if we allowed kills/saves to accumulate?

I mean, when you put it that way I guess I'm down. But really, I like the current format and would prefer it to not change.

Kill: Zatch Bell
Kill: Zatch Bell
Save: DBZ

ZB has a stupid name and needs to go. DBZ is a decent show and should stay.

Are you voting.twice? lol

Kill: Zatch Bell
Kill: Bakugan
Save: Bleach

Kill Bakugan because Wtf is it doing staying on the list?

Zatch because it is the most likely to get killed.
 
Votes carrying over would get annoying because it would boil down to saving or killing the same few shows round after round. The reset between rounds keeps it fresh. Carrying over votes would also make the imbalance between possible double kills and single saves even more pronounced; if people set their sights on one show it eventually just becomes impossible to save it without many more people voting to save than to kill.

That's more true without saves carrying over.
 
That's more true without saves carrying over.

How? The gap just widens and widens unless everyone keeps doing exactly the same thing.

The 90s thread had the sense to just move on when a show got saved with the exception of like the top 20. Doing the same show over and over again, like the way this thread is doing, gets boring. Carrying over votes only accentuates that.
 
I wish it was a ranking list or some other format where people actually think about show quality, instead of these "campaigns" of spite.

All of my voting has been my opinion on the shows in question, but I don't see what the results of this are even supposed to tell us with this format.
 
I wish it was a ranking list or some other format where people actually think about show quality, instead of these "campaigns" of spite.

All of my voting has been my opinion on the shows in question, but I don't see what the results of this are even supposed to tell us with this format.

Well, that's more or less what it's supposed to be, a ranking list, but that went out the window pretty early.
 
I mean I wish every person would post their list

Code:
DBZ
Inuyasha
One Piece
...
...
...
Wulin Warriors

and assign points based on placement.

That kind of ranking list format.
 
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