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[goodcow]

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/17956139?source=Evening Standard&ct=5

Toothpaste cancer alert
By Mark Prigg Science Correspondent And Rebecca Lawrence, Evening Standard
15 April 2005

Dozens of toothpastes sold at supermarkets are at the centre of a cancer alert today.

Anti-bacterial cleaning products, including dishwashing liquid and handwash, are also affected.

Researchers have discovered that triclosan, a chemical in the products, can react with water to produce chloroform gas. If inhaled in large enough quantities, chloroform can cause depression, liver problems and, in some cases, cancer.

An Evening Standard investigation found dozens of products on supermarket shelves containing the chemical, from brand names including Colgate, Aquafresh, Dentyl and Sensodyne.

Marks& Spencer confirmed today it was removing products containing triclosan from all its stores and has been working with Greenpeace to develop alternative products.

Asda said it was investigating the problem and would be urgently talking to its suppliers.

Giles Watson, a toxicology expert at wildlife charity WWF, warned that the long-term effects of exposure to chloroform were still unknown and advised consumers to check the bottles before buying products.

"These products produce low levels of chloroform, but that adds up over time. The amount of gas formed is very low but I think the key thing is that we just don't know what the effects are. However, manufacturers do have to list triclosan on their ingredients, so if consumers are worried the best advice is to avoid products with the chemical."

A Tesco spokesman said: "We do not use triclosan in any of our own-brand products, apart from one anti-bacterial handwash, which is being reformulated, and our toothpaste. We

believe that triclosan is a very effective ingredient in toothpaste as it helps fight gum disease and improve overall oral care."

The Department of Trade and Industry said use of triclosan was tightly controlled under EU laws brought in last year, but that they were under constant review.

Researchers in the US found that the chlorine added to water in Britain reacted with

triclosan to

produce chloroform-gas. They found that it was possible for the chloroform produced when soap containing the chemical mixes

with chlorinated water to be absorbed through the skin or inhaled.

Professor Peter Vikesland, of Virginia Tech University, who carried out the research, said: "This is the first work that we know of that suggests that consumer products, such as antimicrobial soap, can produce significant quantities of chloroform." He has called for governments around the world to regulate the chemical more closely.

Products affected

Triclosan is in:

Dentyl mouthwash
Colgate Total fresh stripe
Colgate Total
Sensodyne Total Care
Tesco own brand toothpaste
Mentadent P; Aquafresh

 

[fse]

...
:lol

 

[Gek54]

Not in Crest?

 

[AntoneM]

looks at toothpast... colgate! FUCK BEANS!

Triclosan is in:

Dentyl mouthwash
Colgate Total fresh stripe
Colgate Total
Sensodyne Total Care
Tesco own brand toothpaste
Mentadent P; Aquafresh

looks more closely, Colgate Total FUCK BEANS!

 

[Ronok]

Can't we avoid cancer these days? I mean everything we seem to buy here in england will give you cancer of some kind...... ¬_¬

 

[Space Age Playboy]

Vindicated.

I've been speaking out against that shit ever since it came out.

 

[Drexon]

Thats because england sucks. But seriously, how often do you inhale during brushing your teeth. I always have to make sure my nostrils are clear before brushing. No buts! Don't even think about arguing my perfect argument!

Anyways, it's pretty obvious we're all gonna get cancer one day, what with all the chemicals were puching down our throats in this day and age. I'm just hoping there's a cure for what I get when I get it. ))

 

[Cerebral Palsy]

Good thing I never brush my teeth

 

[tedtropy]

Seriously, can we just say life causes cancer and just fucking be done with it. In fact, making posts about cancer actually increases your chances for it...

 

[J2 Cool]

Good thing I never brush my teeth

*high five*

 

[goodcow]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...a/002-5903210-3282402?v=glance&s=hpc&n=507846

 

[Ghost]

*phew* Narrowly dodged another cancer bullet.

 

[Lmo911]

I use Colgate.... tartar control! Ha!

As for mouthwash, I just use good ole fashioned Listerine. The blinding searing sensation means it works!

 

[goodcow]

As for mouthwash, I just use good ole fashioned Listerine. The blinding searing sensation means it works!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005US9W/002-5903210-3282402?v=glance&s=hpc&n=507846

 

[Lmo911]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005US9W/002-5903210-3282402?v=glance&s=hpc&n=507846

But does it BURN? I don't have a gun! I need something to hold off any would be criminals from violating the sanctity of my home.

Got something like that health boy! Huh?

 

[sc0la]

toms of main pwns joo

 

[Sysgen]

I use baking soda. Well I don't but many people do.

 

[goodcow]

toms of main pwns joo

Actually, I just bought some of that from Amazon. I haven't tried it yet though.

 

[sc0la]

Actually, I just bought some of that from Amazon. I haven't tried it yet though.

if you use it for a few days then go back to colgate or crest it makes the other stuff taste like super-sweet-aspartame overdose shit. It takes a little adjustment though. Make sure you got the ADA accepted stuff, not all of their pastes are. Other than that I think it pairs excellently with a sonicare

 

[goodcow]

if you use it for a few days then go back to colgate or crest it makes the other stuff taste like super-sweet-aspartame overdose shit. It takes a little adjustment though. Make sure you got the ADA accepted stuff, not all of their pastes are. Other than that I think it pairs excellently with a sonicare

Oh, I was talking about the Toms mouthwash.

 

[Boogie]

WARNING: LIVING MAY RESULT IN DEATH

 

[Takuan]

WARNING: LIVING MAY RESULT IN DEATH

+1.

 

[sc0la]

Oh, I was talking about the Toms mouthwash.

that I haven't tried. got a free sample the other day though ... *goes upstairs to try*

 

[Newduck]

All this commotion about the UK having horrible teath was just a pre-emptive cancer dodge all along. US = pwned. Healthy Teeth = Early Death.

 

[teh_pwn]

Both the US and UK are already pwned.

So there's a carcinogen in our toothpaste that we spit out.

What about the several carcinogens we eat every day that's sprayed all over our crops?

 

[OmniGamer]

Haha...AIM and Listerine for life(hey, that kinda has new context now)

 

[Jeffahn]

FCUK. I've been using Aquafresh for years, but only a pea-sized drop every day, so I guess it's toothpaste on the shopping list today.

...

 

[kablooey]

WARNING: LIVING MAY RESULT IN DEATH

:lol :lol

 

[Pedigree Chum]

WARNING: LIVING MAY RESULT IN DEATH

Haha, awesome. That's so going to be my MSN name.

 

[aoi tsuki]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...a/002-5903210-3282402?v=glance&s=hpc&n=507846

Kiss My Face makes a toothpaste now?! Do you happen to have a hot twin sister that's vegetarian, likes videogames, and is as thrifty as you?

 

[Zaptruder]

"In the continuing search for prolonged life, man could not resolve the paradox caused by toxicity build up through health care products and the need for said products to prolong life. In the end, they were overrun by monkeys who had by way of biology built up a resistance to more naturally harmful causes, without the need to use healthcare products, their life expectancy and thus power began to exceed mankind's."

 

[AntoneM]

Kiss My Face makes a toothpaste now?! Do you happen to have a hot twin sister that's vegetarian, likes videogames, and is as thrifty as you?

Why twin sister? Why not just "hot sister", and now I kinda want to know too.

 

[MIMIC]

WARNING: LIVING MAY RESULT IN DEATH

:lol

 

[Drexon]

FCUK. I've been using Aquafresh for years, but only a pea-sized drop every day, so I guess it's toothpaste on the shopping list today.

...

You use an electric toothbrush too?

 

[Guzim]

Colgate Total fresh stripe
Colgate Total

Shit.

 

[demon]

Who gives a fuck. There are probably a millions things people do and use that cause cancer that we are oblivious to. Hell, the longer you go without cancer, the more likely you are to get cancer! Welcome to life.

 

[BooM235689]

Can't we avoid cancer these days? I mean everything we seem to buy here in england will give you cancer of some kind...... ¬_¬

this is true

 

[Jade Knight 08]

colgate total here. No signs of cancer in my mouth especially my tongue.

 

[Phoenix]

WARNING: LIVING DOES RESULT IN DEATH! CERTAIN ITEMS, BEHAVIORS, ETC ARE KNOWN TO SPEED IT ALONG

fixed.


Ya know its funny. People are so quick to support, swear by science and then so easily ignore and/or disregard what it says.

 

[LakeEarth]

fixed.


Ya know its funny. People are so quick to support, swear by science and then so easily ignore and/or disregard what it says.

Not ignore. Just give up on trying to avoid the million things that cause cancer. Burnt food causes cancer?!? Hello, fire?!? That's HOW WE COOK THINGS!!!

 

[Phoenix]

Not ignore. Just give up on trying to avoid the million things that cause cancer. Burnt food causes cancer?!? Hello, fire?!? That's HOW WE COOK THINGS!!!

We aren't talking about burnt food causing cancer. We're talking about a small set of products out many that contain an ingredient that increases the chance that you could get it. Piece of cake - use another product.

 

[LakeEarth]

We aren't talking about burnt food causing cancer. We're talking about a small set of products out many that contain an ingredient that increases the chance that you could get it. Piece of cake - use another product.

Yeah I guess you could just avoid it. But I dunno...the fact I live by Detroit means I've been subjected to enough cancer causing agents to kill me three times.. I'm not gonna bother avoid a million things and just live my life.

 

[AzN_F15h]

is this FDA approved? :lol

 

[Space Age Playboy]

Not ignore. Just give up on trying to avoid the million things that cause cancer. Burnt food causes cancer?!? Hello, fire?!? That's HOW WE COOK THINGS!!!

Cook it, don't char it.

 

[Cerebral Palsy]

Tooth brushing is for dem hollywood types

 

[LakeEarth]

Cook it, don't char it.

i'm just saying, you can't cook it rare, you can't cook it well done, WHERE DOES IT END!

 

[Space Age Playboy]

i'm just saying, you can't cook it rare, you can't cook it well done, WHERE DOES IT END!

Cook it at a lower heat for a longer time. That will cook it inside more without burning the outside to a crisp.

 

[Phoenix]

is this FDA approved? :lol

Well the FDA isn't omnipotent. I don't see any way they could have predicted that this would happen. When the FDA approves something they look at the reasonable short term and say 'we haven't seen it cause any significant number of ill effect'. Stuff the FDA and other organizations approve can later be determined to cause an ailment. That's just the way of things. There are drugs that we'd been using since the 70s that they are finding out can cause a variety of problems.

 

[M3wThr33]

So triclosan + water = chloroform = cancer?
My Colgate Total is .3% triclosan and they said water CAN cause it.
I want to know how much chloroform = cancer, because I think they just od'd rats on it.

 

[Phoenix]

So triclosan + water = chloroform = cancer?
My Colgate Total is .3% triclosan and they said water CAN cause it.
I want to know how much chloroform = cancer, because I think they just od'd rats on it.

It would impossible to say with certainty which is why at most they ever say that it increases the risk. One could go their entire life without developing cancer under those same conditions, but now they know that it is a possibility that its possible.