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Cooking with vegetable oils releases toxic cancer-causing chemicals, say experts.

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Hilbert

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Aint nobody got time for that.

I have one big lard rendering day in December to get all my lard for the upcoming year.

It's actually kind of fun, but it makes your house smell BAD.

Best fucking pie crusts, tamales and fried chicken ever though.
 

borborygmus

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Eh, give it a few months/years and studies will show that those oils also cause cancer or some other nasty illnesses.

Even early proponents of the idea that PUFA as found in most vegetable oils are bad for us believed olive oil was OK. Olive oil seems pretty solid in the long run.

What I'm suspicious of is the paleo movement going too far in the opposite direction of the idea of saturated fat being bad, and basically binging on meat, butter and ghee like there's no tomorrow.

People are very extreme these days.


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I think a vague, heuristical approach based on the current consensus suggests the following rules of thumb as a starting point in figuring out one's diet:

- Don't be too afraid of butter and animal fats. The more saturated a fat is, the more stable it is, meaning it's less prone to damage and the formation of cancer-causing free radicals. Plus, animal fats are the only way to get certain forms of Vitamin K2, which almost all vegans lack, among other essential things.
- We don't entirely know yet that we can ditch the old model of saturated fat, cholesterol etc. Maybe don't binge on saturated fat.
- Don't be afraid of having a few "unstable" oils or cancer-causing stuff. It's likely that exposure to bad things is good for us (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis).
 

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a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
Olive oil and butter baby, all a man needs.

I can't stand the taste of vegetable oil on foods, especially Canola. It's just gross and overpowering.

Of course, I suppose olive oil could come off that way as well, but it tastes like a billion times better.
 

dity

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We're slowly discovering that all foods cause cancer. Soon we'll be forced to transcend, we'll focus on rebuilding the land and caring for the next generation while trying to reach enlightenment in our free time.

Eventually we'll change and leave humanity behind, society will be streamlined, and all forms of racism and sexism will cease to be. Water is all that man needs, I await our cancer-free future.

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way more

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Olive oil and butter baby, all a man needs.

I can't stand the taste of vegetable oil on foods, especially Canola. It's just gross and overpowering.

Of course, I suppose olive oil could come off that way as well, but it tastes like a billion times better.

Canola is regarded as a neutral, tasteless oil in cooking. It's like complaining about the overwhelming taste of ice berg lettuce.
 

tkscz

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Breaking news, leading scientist say random food item of the week has a chance of causing cancer.
 

lenos16

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Hasn't this been suggested for a while now? I've been cooking with butter and olive oil ever since I found out. Coconut oil too, but the taste does take a while to get used to.
 
Ghee*, all day, everyday! Coconut oil is great, too, depending on what flavor you're after.

*It's easy enough to make yourself, and a heck of a lot cheaper than buying it at the shops. It can go for ludicrous prices here.
 

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a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
Canola is regarded as a neutral, tasteless oil in cooking. It's like complaining about the overwhelming taste of ice berg lettuce.
Ice berg lettuce is gross too. Maybe I just have way stronger and more powerful tastebuds than the rest of humanity. I'm the first X-gene.
 

Xyber

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I don't know how humanity lasted this long with everything we have been eating that can kill us.

With enough science thrown at an ingredient, I'm pretty sure they can find out some way it can give us cancer.
 

Razmos

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For fucks sake, I need to just learn how to use photosynthesis, it's the only way to be sure.

I'm waiting for the inevitable "water causes cancer!"
 
Olive oil can be bloody dangerous though when cooking since it's flash and smoke point are so much lower than other oils.

I can't help but feel that so many of these "studies" aim their research at the outcome they want and go from there =/
 

Airola

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At this point, just water.

And according to scientists the world's drinking water supply is slowly draining so don't you go and promote water to people. That's evil!




We all should just use our own hyper-natural method of producing water and just eat and drink our own saliva.
 
Quick reminder that any energy release, almost all reactionary by-products in the body, etc... will have some relation to the production of cancer eventually and with sufficient amounts.
Fucking cellular respiration produces cancer-inducing by-products for fuck sake.
 

Nocebo

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For fucks sake, I need to just learn how to use photosynthesis, it's the only way to be sure.

I'm waiting for the inevitable "water causes cancer!"
Bad news, exposure to sunlight can cause cancer.

Actually just by being alive you run the risk of getting cancer. The risk factor increases as you get older. Aside from cancer there are many other diseases you risk getting by living a long life.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
Like others said, everything cause cancer.

Don't want cancer? Drink water. Then i guess, even experts will find that water cause cancer.
 

Go_Ly_Dow

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I've been using Olive Oil for a few years now for all my cooking anyway.

Not just for health reasons, it just makes everything taste so much better.
 

jchap

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My statistics professor in college had a cork board above the coffee machine with 10+ articles on coffee either being bad or good for you. Some said it caused cancer, some claimed it prevented cancer. He drank a lot of coffee.
 

Zero²

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Olive oil is so expensive over here, as imported food generally is, that I only use it for seasoning. Guess I'll try using more butter... But it really doesn't fry the same.
 

Harmen

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Variety in your diet and lifestyle, that is the only thing that ultimately is healthy. I am willing to bet that even many of those "superfoods" from mother nature herself can have adverse effects on somebodies health if eaten too much.

A wise man once said "All things are poison and nothing is without poison; only the dose makes a thing not a poison." and this holds up for basically everything.

Quick reminder that any energy release, almost all reactionary by-products in the body, etc... will have some relation to the production of cancer eventually and with sufficient amounts.
Fucking cellular respiration produces cancer-inducing by-products for fuck sake.

Indeed. Which is why I am not too fond of popularizing these kind of studies (they most certainly contribute to overall scientific knowlegde though). The average joe reads a headline like this and may think eating a chickenfilet fried in veggie oil is as carcinogenic as smoking, for example. It makes people think "everything causes cancer anyways, so screw it!". At least, I have heard people say stuff like that.
 

V_Arnold

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Variety in your diet and lifestyle, that is the only thing that ultimately is healthy. I am willing to bet that even many of those "superfoods" from mother nature herself can have adverse effects on somebodies health if eaten too much.

A wise man once said "All things are poison and nothing is without poison; only the dose makes a thing not a poison." and this holds up for basically everything.

This is so true, it is actually a useless information when it comes to deciding your diet.
Also, I do not get how you can "overdose" on superfoods. The goal is hitting macro- and micronutritient-needs. Therefore, if eating stuff like peanut butter or oats or legumes each day, there is nothing wrong with that. There is no point in settling for less just for the sake of "Variety".

So, to put it in another way, variety is not a nutritient.
 
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