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Top analyst: "Apple will decline"

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How do I get a job as an analyst? Seems like the easiest job in the world
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KHarvey16

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Thanks Cipherr, you get me.


When you replied by comparing the sales of energy bracelets and iDevices. That only makes sense as a reply if you think my point was specifically about iDevices.

The context of the sentiment being objected to was that marketing was wholly or mostly responsible for Apple's success. You replied and I figured your point was that since marketing was mostly responsible for the success of energy bracelets, the same can be true for Apple. You clarified that you only meant marketing matters, which is certainly true but not what was being discussed in the conversation you quoted.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Iphone is like a non 80's pop song right now. Nobody will remember it in 10 years.

Wrong. It's the Walkman of our age. They're gonna make cheeky jokes about iPhones all the time when That 2000s Show premieres in a few decades.
 
You clarified that you only meant marketing matters, which is certainly true but not what was being discussed in the conversation you quoted.

"All the marketing in the world does no good if your products are complete shit."

Do you think he meant that to refer to Apple and Apple only?
 
Tell that to there cult of fans...

Even more fanatical then the gaming side

but it's not about gaming

it's about a lifestyle

Co-signed.


This shit is nuts. Seriously. But it's always been that way with Apple cultists, even pre-Jobs comeback. There were pro mac guys even during the power pc era, Mac os 9 years where it was just awful.


When the first ipod for Windows was announced, I tried to preorder a version at a Mac only store in the montreal(Micro Boutique). The clerk over there was a total ass and denied that there would ever be a Windows version of the iPod. Told me to call another store if I didn't believe him. So I pre-ordered it directly from Apple.com.

it's kinda like a subculture of the hipster movement.
 

KHarvey16

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"All the marketing in the world does no good if your products are complete shit."

Do you think he meant that to refer to Apple and Apple only?

If we want to discuss that statement in isolation your point is and was perfectly valid. I interpreted your response, again, in the context of the discussion being had. I don't think we disagree.
 

Cheebo

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As a counter to the OP...:
http://allthingsd.com/20120426/apple-1111-per-share-and-a-1-trillion-market-cap-in-the-next-year/

The blowout earnings Apple reported Tuesday inspired a number of big upgrades on the company’s stock, but none so bullish as that of Topeka Capital Markets analyst Brian White.

White, who made headlines back in April by setting a $1,001 target on Apple shares, has raised that price to an even headier high: $1,111. Which is an interesting target, and not just for its numerical symmetry. As I’ve noted here before, Apple will become the world’s first trillion-dollar company when its share price hits about $1,072. So, by setting his target at $1,111 per share, White is predicting that Apple’s market cap will hit a trillion dollars sometime in 2013.

“Apple’s performance once again demonstrated how quickly Apple fever is spreading around the world, and this trend continues to drive meaningful upside in the company’s financial results,” White says. “We believe the negative vibes that have held back the stock over the past couple of weeks will now be replaced with the fear of missing the next leg up in the stock price that we are forecasting will reach $1,111 over the next year.”
$1,111.

That’s an awfully big valuation. But is it reasonable?

White contends that it is. And Apple certainly appears to be firing on all cylinders. Its gross and operating margins both set all-time records in Q2. It has sold more than 365 million iOS devices to date — 50 million in its most recent quarter. And it has already signed up more than 125 million subscribers to iCloud. Apple is a juggernaut, and there are still plenty of growth opportunities ahead of it.

Said White, “Apple is trading at just 8.1x (ex-cash) our CY13 EPS estimate, combined with our expectations for accelerated momentum over the next year with the iPhone 5, an Apple TV, an ‘iPad Mini’ and a potential relationship with China Mobile, gives us confidence that the stock has meaningful upside potential from current levels.”
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Tell that to there cult of fans...

Even more fanatical then the gaming side

but it's not about gaming

it's about a lifestyle

Co-signed.


This shit is nuts. Seriously. But it's always been that way with Apple cultists, even pre-Jobs comeback. There were pro mac guys even during the power pc era, Mac os 9 years where it was just awful.


When the first ipod for Windows was announced, I tried to preorder a version at a Mac only store in the montreal(Micro Boutique). The clerk over there was a total ass and denied that there would ever be a Windows version of the iPod. Told me to call another store if I didn't believe him. So I pre-ordered it directly from Apple.com.

it's kinda like a subculture of the hipster movement.

Lifestyle? Culty?

 
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