cripterion
Member
Well... the benchmark gives the same results and the framerate is even worse on the campaign map (I haven't played since the 1st patch so don't know if they broke something as it was better before for me on the campaign map).
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Total War: Rome 2 |OT| I Came, I Saw, I Came
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Atraveller
Banned
Downloading beta patch now, see if it fixes anything.
Atraveller
Banned
Sometimes patches break old stuff, I wish DICE do something like this, Battlefield 3 was a mess.
More devs do it now (the AoEII:HD crew, for example) that Steam added the functionality a while ago, makes rolling back bad patches a lot easier.
Atraveller
Banned
Campaign map is a little bit better, but battles are significantly improved.
Atraveller
Banned
Really? It's also faster for me, reduced from 5 mins to 2, but is it that fast?
It's very fast for me because I have AI moves completely turned off. I also have an SSD and OC'd 4670k so those are probably why it was never a problem for me.
Atraveller
Banned
I see, I have AI moves on, although I do have a SSD, I install all my games on the traditional hard drive.
Now that's a good patch and will drastically increase my playtime even if it doesn't fix some of my main gripes. I do love how they have 1000 crashes on the list with a few of them listed as "very rare" yet they happened to me a few times each like the starting a new campaign crash...lol
"Very rare unless you're name is "Demo" or else our standards for what qualifies as very rare is different than most".
These patches disable all previous installed mods, right? I just want to make sure.
"Very rare unless you're name is "Demo" or else our standards for what qualifies as very rare is different than most".
These patches disable all previous installed mods, right? I just want to make sure.
Now that's a good patch and will drastically increase my playtime even if it doesn't fix some of my main gripes. I do love how they have 1000 crashes on the list with a few of them listed as "very rare" yet they happened to me a few times each like the starting a new campaign crash...lol
"Very rare unless you're name is "Demo" or else our standards for what qualifies as very rare is different than most".
These patches disable all previous installed mods, right? I just want to make sure.
Radious mod seems to work still, but I uninstalled it to check out the new balancing stuff. 2/4 turns per year still works fine.
TheSpoiler
Member
I played this before the patch hit. Battles ran like butter somehow, but I turned Campaign mode on for a second and that shit ran like, well, absolute shit even on Low. How is it now?
And damn! I kinda liked the same-facey glitch.
And damn! I kinda liked the same-facey glitch.
Unbound By Death
Member
Turn speeds do seem kinda improved in SP but coop is where they were really horrible.
I hope they keep improving them cause its still somewhat slow which means coop will still be over 2-3 minutes presumably.
I hope they keep improving them cause its still somewhat slow which means coop will still be over 2-3 minutes presumably.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
Can't wait to try this patch. I've put Rome on hold for awhile now since the time between turns was so incredibly long. If that patch can just fix that I'll be happy.
Atraveller
Banned
I still got that face glitch in the benchmark mode, CA's beta patch is not working like it should.
thelurkinghorror
Member
So, I start playing this game two days ago, with patch 1.0... not a terrible mess like Empire, but Rome II is almost there.
Tonight I downloaded the 2.0 beta and wow, not like a night & day situation but the game is now a lot better, only the technical performance got worse (just a little, but my pc start to showing his age). I have a lot of fun with the new mechanics!
For Rome! (I'm actually from Rome so... I hate when characters speak in english, CA give me some realistic latin!)
Tonight I downloaded the 2.0 beta and wow, not like a night & day situation but the game is now a lot better, only the technical performance got worse (just a little, but my pc start to showing his age). I have a lot of fun with the new mechanics!
For Rome! (I'm actually from Rome so... I hate when characters speak in english, CA give me some realistic latin!)
I was actually thinking about this the other day. All the surrounding countries like Greece and northern Africa and the south of Germany etc have accents but Rome is just Englishmen :/ It's the same in the movies and everything too.
I think that they are doing it because it "sounds" high class.
thelurkinghorror
Member
HarryHengst
Member
Most probably the fault of Sega, forcing them to release the game too early.
They modified it a bit. Squalor works, you just can't build every building you want in every town you want. I actually really like the system, it makes sense and keeps the game a bit more balanced. First thing I do when I capture a settlement is typically to build a culture/anti-squalor building, then decide where to go from there.
Dictator93
Member
I would have done differently
For americans, Romans speaking like patrician englishmen is pretty normal. The whole thing comes from movies where really only english stage actors would be cast as romans, germans, etc....
I also would not mind seeing them being more historically accurate with accents.
Yeah squalor works pretty well with the 2.0 patch. I felt like the Radious mod had the right idea, but made things super easy by changing the values. It seemed to be mostly done to help the AI, but I felt like I could build everything with basically no penalty.
The next big tweak I'd like to see there would be to be able to see what buildings are available if I demolish a building. It sucks to demolish one only to realize the one I wanted to replace it with isn't an option.
Must be a pain for Radious with Rome2 having weekly patches at moment ever time he changes something will need changing again due to update.
His mods are great though I ended up switching to Radious for Shogun2 was not keen on somethings Darth mod had.
Megalosaro
Banned
I think it'd be neat if they used the actual languages that were spoken. I mean, Shogun uses Japanese, it'd be awesome if Rome 2 had used Latin, Greek, what not.
I love when games with a lot of different cultures represented use the actual languages. The first SSX did it too!
This. I was disappointed to hear English, expected Latin because of Shogun 2.
Atraveller
Banned
Lucky for you, my campaign map is still pretty bad.
Cameron122
Member
How is MP now? Haven't gamed in a few days and I'd like to spend some time with Gaffers tomorrow.
Played about 10+ hours of a new Iceni campaign with the beta patch on very hard this weekend.
It's really been night and day in comparison to the vanilla game. The main differences here are the more rational behavior of the AI on the campaign map and in battles. They actually do a very nice job of building the right units and being a threatening force in comparison to before. Battle AI is much improved, although a few tweaks are needed. Still, they've been playing much more tactically and the new speed of the game is making battles far more drawn out and epic in scope.
In the campaign I'm currently playing, I've been at war with the Suebi for a number of turns and they've been giving me a lot of trouble. Although I've pushed them back to two provinces, they still are maintaining a huge number of sword and spear bands and are keeping my 3 fully stacked armies at bay. What's been impressive is their use of agents, which has pretty much kept me from isolating their armies and picking them off. They've also managed to take out a few of my scouts as well. Farther down I can see Rome being super aggressive and moving up to my territory.
Performance and turn times are much improved as well, but more optimization would always be better. In particular is the campaign map stutter that occurs when pulling up the 3D model of a unit.
Other than that, I'm hooked back on the game after taking a couple of days break. The 2.0 patch has started to capture what got me really hooked on Shogun 2 for so long. Next I'd like to see further UI overhauls, especially the reintroduction of the family tree. More AI and performance tweaks are needed too.
It's really been night and day in comparison to the vanilla game. The main differences here are the more rational behavior of the AI on the campaign map and in battles. They actually do a very nice job of building the right units and being a threatening force in comparison to before. Battle AI is much improved, although a few tweaks are needed. Still, they've been playing much more tactically and the new speed of the game is making battles far more drawn out and epic in scope.
In the campaign I'm currently playing, I've been at war with the Suebi for a number of turns and they've been giving me a lot of trouble. Although I've pushed them back to two provinces, they still are maintaining a huge number of sword and spear bands and are keeping my 3 fully stacked armies at bay. What's been impressive is their use of agents, which has pretty much kept me from isolating their armies and picking them off. They've also managed to take out a few of my scouts as well. Farther down I can see Rome being super aggressive and moving up to my territory.
Performance and turn times are much improved as well, but more optimization would always be better. In particular is the campaign map stutter that occurs when pulling up the 3D model of a unit.
Other than that, I'm hooked back on the game after taking a couple of days break. The 2.0 patch has started to capture what got me really hooked on Shogun 2 for so long. Next I'd like to see further UI overhauls, especially the reintroduction of the family tree. More AI and performance tweaks are needed too.
Sorry to hear that!
Maybe next patch will do the trick for you. The only thing still wrong with my campaign map is the stuttering when going into diplomacy or selecting a certain unit.
Atraveller
Banned
I found out that when I point the cursor on stuff with a lot of details, like a cluster of trees, or general besieging a settlement, my framerate gets an instant drop. And if I keep my cursor on my mini-map, and move around with WASD, the framerate is pretty consistent.
Yup that indeed seems to be the problem. I think it has to do either with the tooltips, or with the illuminated overlay that sprawls across the map when you select a unit, to indicate where it can go (yellow) and its area of control (red). Something with how these are calculated, drawn, and interact with the campaign map is making the game crawl. I think.
Atraveller
Banned
Yeah, that boggles my mind, different settings have little performance difference on the campaign map.
If your frame rate is fine then drops as soon as you scroll around the map, then it might have something to do with the texture being streamed in, if so then defraging the HD would help.
Anyone have a good link to explain the political system? I'm kicking ass playing as Sparta but have no clue what I'm supposed to be doing in politics? Am I supposed to keep the royal families' power as high as possible or am I playing as a general trying to take over? I'm just curious because when I adopt someone, it takes power away from the Royal Families and I didn't know if that's good or bad.
I don't fully understand it, but I think you have to basically keep it in between 25-75% power as best as you can. Having too much or too little power will cause civil war to be more likely.
It seems when power got down to around 49% for me, civil war erupted. One game, I got an event that gave me +1000 tribal support and it cost 10000 gold though, not sure how often that appears.
Yeah I don't think there's any absolutes with the system. It just causes civil war to be more or less likely, but no matter what it will still happen eventually.