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Transcript of Bush's Immigrant Reform Foolishness

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Phoenix

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In an address to the nation Monday evening, President Bush called for Congress to pass comprehensive immigration that strengthens border security, enforces immigration laws and includes a guest-worker program.

The following is a transcript of the president's address in the Oval Office.
A nation of immigrants and laws

Good evening. I have asked for a few minutes of your time to discuss a matter of national importance -- the reform of America's immigration system.

The issue of immigration stirs intense emotions -- and in recent weeks, Americans have seen those emotions on display. On the streets of major cities, crowds have rallied in support of those in our country illegally. At our southern border, others have organized to stop illegal immigrants from coming in. Across the country, Americans are trying to reconcile these contrasting images. And in Washington, the debate over immigration reform has reached a time of decision. Tonight, I will make it clear where I stand, and where I want to lead our country on this vital issue.

We must begin by recognizing the problems with our immigration system. For decades, the United States has not been in complete control of its borders. As a result, many who want to work in our economy have been able to sneak across our border -- and millions have stayed.

Once here, illegal immigrants live in the shadows of our society. (Image set) Many use forged documents to get jobs, and that makes it difficult for employers to verify that the workers they hire are legal. (Right, but its easy for them to handle taxes? You mean all the BS employment forms I have to fill out can be forged?) Illegal immigration puts pressure on public schools and hospitals, strains state and local budgets, (So do your tax cuts and budget cuts) and brings crime to our communities (Nice, so now we know where the crime is coming from!). These are real problems, yet we must remember that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are decent people who work hard, support their families, practice their faith, and lead responsible lives. They are a part of American life -- but they are beyond the reach and protection of American law.

We are a nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws. (Good, lets start with Rove and those incompetent jackholes that screwed the gulf coast) We are also a nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways. These are not contradictory goals -- America can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time. We will fix the problems created by illegal immigration, and we will deliver a system that is secure, orderly, and fair. So I support comprehensive immigration reform that will accomplish five clear objectives.
Securing the borders

First, the United States must secure its borders. This is a basic responsibility of a sovereign nation. It is also an urgent requirement of our national security. (So you admit in front of the nation that you have been neglecting a basic requirement of this nation and national security for what 5 years or so?) Our objective is straightforward: The border should be open to trade and lawful immigration -- and shut to illegal immigrants, as well as criminals, drug dealers, and terrorists. (Mr. President, we have more than one border)

I was the governor of a state that has a 12,000 mile border with Mexico. So I know how difficult it is to enforce the border, and how important it is. Since I became president, we have increased funding for border security by 66 percent, and expanded the Border Patrol from about 9,000 to 12,000 agents. The men and women of our Border Patrol are doing a fine job in difficult circumstances, and over the past five years, we have apprehended and sent home about 6 million people entering America illegally.

Despite this progress, we do not yet have full control of the border, (Dude, do you realize how many miles of border we have?) and I am determined to change that. Tonight I am calling on Congress to provide funding for dramatic improvements in manpower and technology at the border. (Wait - didn't Congress just pass 70 billion in tax cuts?!?!) By the end of 2008, we will increase the number of Border Patrol officers by an additional 6,000. When these new agents are deployed, we will have more than doubled the size of the Border Patrol during my presidency. (We did the same thing with the airlines but TSA ain't looking so hot right now... maybe you should give them some more money too)

At the same time, we are launching the most technologically advanced border security initiative in American history. We will construct high-tech fences in urban corridors, and build new patrol roads and barriers in rural areas. We will employ motion sensors, infrared cameras, and unmanned aerial vehicles to prevent illegal crossings. (NOne of these will prevent anything... unless you plan on shooting people from the drones - you will at best be taking picture of border crossers spreading to the 5 winds) America has the best technology in the world, and we will ensure that the Border Patrol has the technology they need to do their job and secure our border.

Training thousands of new Border Patrol agents and bringing the most advanced technology to the border will take time. Yet the need to secure our border is urgent. So I am announcing several immediate steps to strengthen border enforcement during this period of transition:

One way to help during this transition is to use the National Guard. So in coordination with governors, up to 6,000 guard members will be deployed to our southern border. The Border Patrol will remain in the lead. The guard will assist the Border Patrol by operating surveillance systems, analyzing intelligence, installing fences and vehicle barriers, building patrol roads, and providing training. Guard units will not be involved in direct law enforcement activities -- that duty will be done by the Border Patrol. This initial commitment of guard members would last for a period of one year. After that, the number of guard forces will be reduced as new Border Patrol agents and new technologies come online. It is important for Americans to know that we have enough guard forces to win the war on terror (That's twice, last terrorists we arrested were coming from Canada Mr. President - where is our northern wall!), to respond to natural disasters (Lord help us....), and to help secure our border (Mr. President we have more than one).

The United States is not going to militarize the southern border. (6000 national guard TROOPS isn't militarization?) Mexico is our neighbor and our friend. We will continue to work cooperatively to improve security on both sides of the border, to confront common problems like drug trafficking and crime, and to reduce illegal immigration.

Another way to help during this period of transition is through state and local law enforcement in our border communities. So we will increase federal funding for state and local authorities assisting the Border Patrol on targeted enforcement missions. And we will give state and local authorities the specialized training they need to help federal officers apprehend and detain illegal immigrants. State and local law enforcement officials are an important resource -- and they are part of our strategy to secure our borders.

The steps I have outlined will improve our ability to catch people entering our country illegally. At the same time, we must ensure that every illegal immigrant we catch crossing our southern border is returned home. More than 85 percent of the illegal immigrants we catch crossing the southern border are Mexicans, and most are sent back home within 24 hours. But when we catch illegal immigrants from other countries, it is not as easy to send them home. (We just need to send them back across the border...) For many years, the government did not have enough space in our detention facilities to hold them while the legal process unfolded. So most were released back into our society and asked to return for a court date. When the date arrived, the vast majority did not show up. This practice, called "catch and release," is unacceptable -- and we will end it.

We are taking several important steps to meet this goal. We have expanded the number of beds in our detention facilities, and we will continue to add more. We have expedited the legal process to cut the average deportation time. And we are making it clear to foreign governments that they must accept back their citizens who violate our immigration laws. (What's to make clear, send them back across the border to Mexico and let them stay in a Mexican prison) As a result of these actions, we have ended "catch and release" for illegal immigrants for some countries. And I will ask Congress for additional funding and legal authority, so we can end "catch and release" at the southern border once and for all. When people know that they will be caught and sent home if they enter our country illegally, they will be less likely to try to sneak in.
Temporary worker program

Second, to secure our border, we must create a temporary worker program. The reality is that there are many people on the other side of our border who will do anything to come to America to work and build a better life. They walk across miles of desert in the summer heat, or hide in the back of 18-wheelers to reach our country. This creates enormous pressure on our border that walls and patrols alone will not stop. To secure the border effectively, we must reduce the numbers of people trying to sneak across.

Therefore, I support a temporary worker program that would create a legal path for foreign workers to enter our country in an orderly way, for a limited period of time. This program would match willing foreign workers with willing American employers for jobs Americans are not doing. (So they aren't good enough to be citizens, but we welcome them to clean our toilets... good show) Every worker who applies for the program would be required to pass criminal background checks (They are forging documents that can get them legal employment in the US, but the background checks are supposed to work? What?). And temporary workers must return to their home country at the conclusion of their stay.

A temporary worker program would meet the needs of our economy (In other words this will work for businesses - but people at the low end of the economy are still screwed and competing now with legal cheap labor because that's good for business), and it would give honest immigrants a way to provide for their families while respecting the law. A temporary worker program would reduce the appeal of human smugglers, and make it less likely that people would risk their lives to cross the border. It would ease the financial burden on state and local governments by replacing illegal workers with lawful taxpayers. And above all, a temporary worker program would add to our security by making certain we know who is in our country and why they are here.
Tamper-proof identification

Third, we need to hold employers to account for the workers they hire. It is against the law to hire someone who is in this country illegally. Yet businesses often cannot verify the legal status of their employees, because of the widespread problem of document fraud. Therefore, comprehensive immigration reform must include a better system for verifying documents and work eligibility. A key part of that system should be a new identification card for every legal foreign worker. This card should use biometric technology, such as digital fingerprints, to make it tamperproof. A tamper-proof card would help us enforce the law, and leave employers with no excuse for violating it. (People counterfeit money, but this technology is supposed to be better? ) And by making it harder for illegal immigrants to find work in our country, we would discourage people from crossing the border illegally in the first place.
Opposition to amnesty

Fourth, we must face the reality that millions of illegal immigrants are already here. They should not be given an automatic path to citizenship. This is amnesty, and I oppose it. Amnesty would be unfair to those who are here lawfully, and it would invite further waves of illegal immigration.

Some in this country argue that the solution is to deport every illegal immigrant -- and that any proposal short of this amounts to amnesty. I disagree. It is neither wise nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States, and send them across the border. There is a rational middle ground between granting an automatic path to citizenship for every illegal immigrant, and a program of mass deportation. That middle ground recognizes that there are differences between an illegal immigrant who crossed the border recently and someone who has worked here for many years, and has a home, a family, and an otherwise clean record.

I believe that illegal immigrants who have roots in our country and want to stay should have to pay a meaningful penalty for breaking the law, to pay their taxes, to learn English, and to work in a job for a number of years. People who meet these conditions should be able to apply for citizenship, but approval would not be automatic, and they will have to wait in line behind those who played by the rules and followed the law. What I have just described is not amnesty. It is a way for those who have broken the law to pay their debt to society, and demonstrate the character that makes a good citizen.

Rollseyes
(Note, you didn't actually answer the question Bush! We aren't going to deport them and they aren't going to be citizens - instead they will become the nations new slavery class - working and toiling to get citizenship or be booted ... no there is no room for exploitation there!)
The American melting pot

Fifth, we must honor the great American tradition of the melting pot, which has made us one nation out of many peoples. The success of our country depends upon helping newcomers assimilate into our society, and embrace our common identity as Americans. Americans are bound together by our shared ideals, an appreciation of our history, respect for the flag we fly, and an ability to speak and write the English language. English is also the key to unlocking the opportunity of America. (Then learn to speak it yourself!) English allows newcomers to go from picking crops to opening a grocery, from cleaning offices to running offices, from a life of low-paying jobs to a diploma, a career, and a home of their own. When immigrants assimilate and advance in our society, they realize their dreams, they renew our spirit, and they add to the unity of America.

Tonight, I want to speak directly to Members of the House and the Senate: An immigration reform bill needs to be comprehensive, because all elements of this problem must be addressed together -- or none of them will be solved at all. The House has passed an immigration bill. The Senate should act by the end of this month, so we can work out the differences between the two bills, and Congress can pass a comprehensive bill for me to sign into law.

America needs to conduct this debate on immigration in a reasoned and respectful tone. Feelings run deep on this issue, and as we work it out, all of us need to keep some things in mind. We cannot build a unified country by inciting people to anger, or playing on anyone's fears, or exploiting the issue of immigration for political gain. (Oh... no... you.... didn't!) We must always remember that real lives will be affected by our debates and decisions, and that every human being has dignity and value no matter what their citizenship papers say.
Dreams of a better life

I know many of you listening tonight have a parent or a grandparent who came here from another country with dreams of a better life. (YOu don't honestly want black people to respond to that ... do you) You know what freedom meant to them, and you know that America is a more hopeful country because of their hard work and sacrifice. As president, I have had the opportunity to meet people of many backgrounds, and hear what America means to them. On a visit to Bethesda Naval Hospital, Laura and I met a wounded marine named Guadalupe Denogean. Master Gunnery Sergeant Denogean came to the United States from Mexico when he was a boy. He spent his summers picking crops with his family, and then he volunteered for the United States Marine Corps as soon as he was able. During the liberation of Iraq, Master Gunnery Sergeant Denogean was seriously injured. When asked if he had any requests, he made two: a promotion for the corporal who helped rescue him, and the chance to become an American citizen. And when this brave marine raised his right hand, and swore an oath to become a citizen of the country he had defended for more than 26 years, I was honored to stand at his side.

We will always be proud to welcome people like Guadalupe Denogean as fellow Americans. Our new immigrants are just what they have always been -- people willing to risk everything for the dream of freedom. And America remains what she has always been -- the great hope on the horizon, an open door to the future, a blessed and promised land. We honor the heritage of all who come here, no matter where they are from, because we trust in our country's genius for making us all Americans -- one nation under God. Thank you, and good night.


Moe after 24 :)
 

GhaleonEB

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Wait, his whole speech was about immigration reform? I thought he was going to address the NSA wiretapping. Guess he's trying to change the subject.
 

way more

Member
We are a nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws

This is such bullshit. We pick and choose arbitrarily and with hypocrisy at every level of the government whether to obey or enforce laws.

At the same time, we are launching the most technologically advanced border security initiative in American history. We will construct high-tech fences in urban corridors, and build new patrol roads and barriers in rural areas. We will employ motion sensors, infrared cameras, and unmanned aerial vehicles to prevent illegal crossings. America has the best technology in the world, and we will ensure that the Border Patrol has the technology they need to do their job and secure our border.

Now that's what I'm talking about. It can be done and the wall will work.
 

Oldschoolgamer

The physical form of blasphemy
Yea, he did say a lot of bullshit. I was rolling when he said, we were the most technologicaly advanced nation in the world. Maybe its true, but, I was under the impression that Japan had that title.

I will give bush some points for this one though. It was more thought out than previous speeches, and he did bring up some good ideas, like the ones about securing the border. He wasn't total ass this time.
 

Macam

Banned
I have nothing to say on the subject since I largely agree with Phoenix's comments and Bush's plan is nothing more hollow pandering, but what's a Bush thread without Liberal-GAF? (Answer: A 4-reply thread)
 

Mandark

Small balls, big fun!
At this point, is it worth fisking Bush? How many of these sorts of speeches has he made, and what's really come of it?

This has nothing to do with policy, only poll numbers. It's got no more substance than his SS reform, the voyage to Mars, or the gay marriage amendment. It's all just wind.
 
:lol :lol :lol This must be read to be believed.

A very spirited and provocative debate took place among right-wing bloggers over the past week. The question under consideration: Should George W. Bush be impeached for his failure to stop the "Mexican invasion" and protect our nation's borders?

Several prominent conservative bloggers argued vehemently in favor of Bush's impeachment. Leading the charge was LaShawn Barber, who actually drafted articles of impeachment and supported them with this argument:


I believe George Bush’s failure to enforce immigration law and stop the foreign invasion, which he has the power and authority to do, warrants impeachment. Because of Bush, illegal invaders are emboldened, demanding that which they have no legal right to obtain.

While the invasion has caused incalculable physical and economic harm to legal citizens, the president proposes to offer amnesty and allow the harm to continue. To the detriment of those he swore to protect, Bush chooses instead to protect those he has no duty to protect. His actions are in violation of the Constitution.

It doesn't appear that Michelle Malkin is going to be calmed by this speech either. I'd say the opposite seems true -- from her post today entitled "Too Little, Too Late" (links omitted):


Here we go again.

President Bush is continuing the homeland security dog-and-pony charade in his quest to deliver a massive "guest worker" plan to the open-borders lobby. A few weeks ago, Bush's Department of Homeland Security put on a bogus performance of Get Tough Theater with a series of politically timed immigration raids...which, as I predicted, simply resulted in more catch and release of illegal aliens nationwide.

This new last-minute stunt to sprinkle National Guard troops on the border--temporarily of course, to appease Mexican President Vicente Fox--is more transparent than the Scotch tape used to hold together our dilapidated border fences. (That's only a slight exaggeration).

For all the new tough talk, these additional troops will be barred from actually doing what needs to be done: guarding the border. President Bush is already bowing and scraping to Mexico over the plan before he's even officially announced it.
 

BlueTsunami

there is joy in sucking dick
A very spirited and provocative debate took place among right-wing bloggers over the past week. The question under consideration: Should George W. Bush be impeached for his failure to stop the "Mexican invasion" and protect our nation's borders?

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HEAD EX FUCKEN SLPODES
 

Diablos

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As I said, the speech was surprisingly moderate, but on the other hand it really floors me when he says "we must enforce our laws." Feeding your ego some good advice for once, Bush? :mad:
 
I have not been following this as well as I should be but wasn't he for amnesty last week?

EDIT: Phoenix, I quoted you in my school assignment. Specifically, this part:
We aren't going to deport them and they aren't going to be citizens - instead they will become the nations new slavery class - working and toiling to get citizenship or be booted...no there is no room for exploitation there!
(I have to keep a blog for my Digital Diversity class and this weeks topic was race and ethnic relations.)
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
I watched it, but I felt like I was staring into emptiness. I couldn't even make sense of what I was hearing. It was like nothing was being said. Frankly, the guy look inhuman today. His little eyes were glowing.

I don't know, I felt out there.
 

firex

Member
"We are a nation of laws." Good to see that his puppetmasters are still feeding him the same phrases, I know I've heard and read that way too many times recently. Another phrase attempting to deflect all of the illegal acts this administration continues to carry out...
 
I bet bush was told to do insane things to give republicans a way out in that 'he's not with us' kinda way when their re-election comes into play.
 

Mandark

Small balls, big fun!
MrAngryFace said:
I bet bush was told to do insane things to give republicans a way out in that 'he's not with us' kinda way when their re-election comes into play.
George W. Bush: The GOP's crazy uncle for 2006!

I could see that.
 
There are some things he said I don't like. But, unlike the previous presidents of the last 30 years, he's actually trying to do something about it. We'll see what actually happens as I don't see dozens of Predator Drones patrolling the border anytime soon.
 

bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
siamesedreamer said:
There are some things he said I don't like. But, unlike the previous presidents of the last 30 years, he's actually trying to do something about it. We'll see what actually happens as I don't see dozens of Predator Drones patrolling the border anytime soon.

So...you're still going to defend him then? Just checking.
 

ronito

Member
If you look at the message and remove it from the deliverer, it's not nearly as unacceptable as it seems. I mean the amnesty-lite program seems pretty level headed. Although his first two points I fear, like I said in another thread, that we'll be spending 5 billion a year to solve a 2 billion a year problem and just where are we going to get the money? Also this is a security measure? WTF? Does he think that american's are stuipd? that we forgot about our other border? (actually he might be right about that though) As hard as it seems to believe I actually tried to be pretty objective through the whole thing thinking, "Just make pretend it's Kennedy, or FDR saying this."

Still I couldn't help but ROFL at this point:
We cannot build a unified country by inciting people to anger, or playing on anyone's fears, or exploiting the issue of immigration for political gain.
 

iapetus

Scary Euro Man
For once I find myself in agreement with a conservative blogger...

Because of Bush, illegal invaders are emboldened, demanding that which they have no legal right to obtain.

Absolutely true.

Nothing to do with his immigration policies, though.
 

Dilbert

Member
WTF.

Y'know, about half of the illegal aliens here didn't illegally cross a border to get here.

Fucking stupid speech, fucking stupid policy.
 
Oldschoolgamer said:
Yea, he did say a lot of bullshit. I was rolling when he said, we were the most technologicaly advanced nation in the world. Maybe its true, but, I was under the impression that Japan had that title.


For the military? Yes, US is the most technologically advanced in the world.
For consumer technology? Japan's pretty damn good (although Korea is catching up).

There's a big difference between military and consumer technology. Japan can't use their tech skills too much for their military.
 

gblues

Banned
-jinx- said:
WTF.

Y'know, about half of the illegal aliens here didn't illegally cross a border to get here.

Fucking stupid speech, fucking stupid policy.

Errr... what did they do, teleport? I'm guessing you mean like expired visas?

Nathan
 
Really a disaster of a speech. He's managed to fracture the GOP even more, if that was possible. Don't know what the WH was thinking letting this baffoon sit out and there on Live Tv and attempt to spin and get "out in front" of the debate. Idiots.
 

BlueTsunami

there is joy in sucking dick
I'm still in awe of some Republicans saying an Impeachment may be in order for his lax on Border Security...I mean...

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