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Transistor |OT| Super Giant Sword

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kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Well shit, that's not a good note to start the reviews on. I hope the others are more positive. I want to want this game!
 

Vire

Member
Has this been posted? Quarter to Three review is out: http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2014/05/20/transistor/ Score and quote:
Tom gave it 2 out of 5, and he quite liked Bastion: "When I reviewed Bastion, I wrote the review as a list of 15 things all games can learn. For me, the real disappointment of Transistor is that developer Supergiant seems to have forgotten half those things."
Transistor as good as Journey confirmed. Not everything can be as great as Assassin's Creed III I suppose.
 
The worst part of Bastion was, well, the game part. Music, art, story elements, all great. The meat and potatoes of the game was surprisingly weak when taken by themselves.

I played Bastion through to the end because of those supplemental elements, and even as short in length as the game was I found myself bored and irritated during the latter portion of the game. Playing the game became just something I grudgingly did so I could listen to the musc, see the next cutscene and hear the narrator deliver more story.
 

Derp

Member
Eh... The only thing that's stopping me from buying this game right now is the combat. I absolutely love the art style and everything, but the combat just seems just so slow, repetitive, limited and just... Boring. The time-stopping strategy aspect is nice though.

But that combat. Ugh. Can't convince myself it will be fine.
 

N30RYU

Member
Is gonna be release also today in Europe, or we'll have to wait till tomorrow?


Eh... The only thing that's stopping me from buying this game right now is the combat. I absolutely love the art style and everything, but the combat just seems just so slow, repetitive, limited and just... Boring. The time-stopping strategy aspect is nice though.

But that combat. Ugh. Can't convince myself it will be fine.
Limited? really? have you seen the attacks customization?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rh0UbaMbQs (8:05)
 

Aucool

Member
Eh... The only thing that's stopping me from buying this game right now is the combat. I absolutely love the art style and everything, but the combat just seems just so slow, repetitive, limited and just... Boring. The time-stopping strategy aspect is nice though.

But that combat. Ugh. Can't convince myself it will be fine.

Same for me, I'm one of those who loved the combat system in Bastion, it was so fast paced and funny... probably I'll wait for the first reviews instead of blind buying it.
 

Derp

Member
Limited? really? have you seen the attacks customization?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rh0UbaMbQs (8:05)
Yes, but that doesn't solve my problem. My problem is to do with the animations as well as the speed. Even though you can change the effects of the attack, the attack is still the same. It's just slamming your sword into the ground over and over again. I find it limited in that sense. I mean, look right after the 8:05 mark. Look at that fight. I find it so repetitive.
 
K

kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Yes, but that doesn't solve my problem. My problem is to do with the animations as well as the speed. Even though you can change the effects of the attack, the attack is still the same. It's just slamming your sword into the ground over and over again. I find it limited in that sense. I mean, look right after the 8:05 mark. Look at that fight. I find it so repetitive.
It seems like you're expecting this game to be more of an action game than it is. I haven't watched a ton of media (cause I want to go in fresh), but it seems like more of a turn based RPG to me. It's more of a kinetic experience than most RPGs -- you're running around and dodging when it's not your turn -- but it's turn based and you select attacks rather than mashing buttons to attack. And with that being the case, the lack of diverse attack animations doesn't really bother me. With action games good and interesting visual feedback is absolutely necessary, but with RPGs it's merely nice to have.
 

KeRaSh

Member
Has this been posted? Quarter to Three review is out: http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2014/05/20/transistor/ Score and quote:
Tom gave it 2 out of 5, and he quite liked Bastion: "When I reviewed Bastion, I wrote the review as a list of 15 things all games can learn. For me, the real disappointment of Transistor is that developer Supergiant seems to have forgotten half those things."

Wot?

It's literally just been taken back down again.

I honestly couldn't stand it. I suppose it's a love it or hate it affair!

Fair enough! Different taste and all that. :)
 
Has this been posted? Quarter to Three review is out: http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2014/05/20/transistor/ Score and quote:
Tom gave it 2 out of 5, and he quite liked Bastion: "When I reviewed Bastion, I wrote the review as a list of 15 things all games can learn. For me, the real disappointment of Transistor is that developer Supergiant seems to have forgotten half those things."

If there is one dude in the world whose opinion I absolutely would not pay any heed to, it's that guy.
 
I see people still don't like Chick('s opinions). I don't always agree with him, but he says what he thinks, and he knows how to say it, so I usually enjoy reading his stuff. Although, I still have no idea how he could like AssCreed 3 that much.

Anyways, on topic - what I've heard of Transistor's soundtrack on Spotify is great, can't wait to play the game so I can listen to more of it.
 

Derp

Member
It seems like you're expecting this game to be more of an action game than it is. I haven't watched a ton of media (cause I want to go in fresh), but it seems like more of a turn based RPG to me. It's more of a kinetic experience than most RPGs -- you're running around and dodging when it's not your turn -- but it's turn based and you select attacks rather than mashing buttons to attack. And with that being the case, the lack of diverse attack animations doesn't really bother me. With action games good and interesting visual feedback is absolutely necessary, but with RPGs it's merely nice to have.
Yeah, that's exactly what it is. I have this weird mentality that a game like this needs an action-ey combat system. I think it's clear that if they wanted to put that in, they could've easily done it, but they are aiming for something else. Like you said, they're aiming for that turn-based feel where you select your attacks. At least you've changed my perspective of the game now. I'll consider it. Waiting for the reviews!
 
Yes, but that doesn't solve my problem. My problem is to do with the animations as well as the speed. Even though you can change the effects of the attack, the attack is still the same. It's just slamming your sword into the ground over and over again. I find it limited in that sense. I mean, look right after the 8:05 mark. Look at that fight. I find it so repetitive.

That's what I get for buying games before watching stuff. That doesn't look very fun imo. I thought the combat would be like Bastion.
 
Yes, but that doesn't solve my problem. My problem is to do with the animations as well as the speed. Even though you can change the effects of the attack, the attack is still the same. It's just slamming your sword into the ground over and over again. I find it limited in that sense. I mean, look right after the 8:05 mark. Look at that fight. I find it so repetitive.
From what I've read/seen, the "sword" isn't a sword. You don't "attack" with it, it's not your typical melee weapon.

How are the actions you see in the video, which seems early in the game or tailor made for a expo, any different from the simple attacks you have early in any hack n slash action game? Of course your moveset is going to be limited and repetitive in the beginning.
 
Tom Chick is a good man, with games especially he seems to be on point more than most.
Based on a lot of his past reviews, I've learned that what he thinks is a good or bad game is very different from what I think so I tend to ignore his reviews

Granted, I appreciate that he doesn't sugarcoat his opinions, but I just usually don't agree with his opinions
 

Rodelero

Member
Tom Chick is a good man, with games especially he seems to be on point more than most.

Yeah, like his Last of Us review which justifies a 6/10 score on the basis of a few segments where you have to move a plank, a whinge about how he wasn't very good at the game, and a false determination that it's a survival game (which it isn't - it's an action game).

After that debacle - not the only one of his - he's firmly on my list of reviewers whose views in no way coincide with mine. He's a contrarian. I occasionally agree with his scores, but the way he comes to them never ceases to amaze me.
 
Yeah, like his Last of Us review which justifies a 6/10 score on the basis of a few segments where you have to move a plank, a whinge about how he wasn't very good at the game, and a false determination that it's a survival game (which it isn't - it's an action game).

After that debacle - not the only one of his - he's firmly on my list of reviewers whose views in no way coincide with mine. He's a contrarian. I occasionally agree with his scores, but the way he comes to them never ceases to amaze me.

Whoever gives TLOU a 6/10 score is objetively a joke reviewer.
 

S1kkZ

Member
btw: is there a fix for the "black screen" since spotifys latest update? i cant select anything, since the main screen just stays black.
 
Whoever gives TLOU a 6/10 score is objetively a joke reviewer.
I don't know, I think the whole idea of an "objective" review is kind of a farce, to be honest. If some guy disliked TLoU enough to give it a 6/10 I would simply say his opinion is representative of a very small minority, but that doesn't make it any less wrong or right than my own, just less popular.

I tend to ignore Tom Chick's reviews because his opinions rarely agree with my own but I won't go so far as to say he's a joke reviewer.

Anyway, I'm ready to see some Transistor reviews! Hurry it up already!
 
I don't know, I think the whole idea of an "objective" review is kind of a farce, to be honest. If some guy disliked TLoU enough to give it a 6/10 I would simply say his opinion is representative of a very small minority, but that doesn't make it any less wrong or right than my own, just less popular.

I tend to ignore Tom Chick's reviews because his opinions rarely agree with my own but I won't go so far as to say he's a joke reviewer.

Anyway, I'm ready to see some Transistor reviews! Hurry it up already!
I don't know, if you look at TLOU from a purely technical stand-point and then give it a 6/10 then there's something wrong. Whether he LIKED it or not shouldn't have affected his score that drastically.

I can see WHY it would affect his score, as it's hard to drop personal assertions, but I think if you're being paid to review a product then you should do it with as little personal bias as possible. I don't like GoT but if I was paid to review it, I would probably end up giving it a higher score than 6/10.
 

Dragon

Banned
I'm with you there. It's the reason I'm not digital only this gen. Absurd if you ask me.

You would be playing the game at 9 am if you went console physical? Yeah I'm going to doubt you on that one. Especially considering this game doesn't have a physical release :).

btw: is there a fix for the "black screen" since spotifys latest update? i cant select anything, since the main screen just stays black.

Yeah the fix is to go to rdio. http://www.rdio.com/search/transistor soundtrack/
 

Hugstable

Banned
I don't know, if you look at TLOU from a purely technical stand-point and then give it a 6/10 then there's something wrong. Whether he LIKED it or not shouldn't have affected his score that drastically.

I can see WHY it would affect his score, as it's hard to drop personal assertions, but I think if you're being paid to review a product then you should do it with as little personal bias as possible. I don't like GoT but if I was paid to review it, I would probably end up giving it a higher score than 6/10.

From a pure technical standpoint, it's not hard to see why some would've been annoyed with Last of US actually. 720p and ran under 30FPS alot of the time. I feel it's the actually game mechanics and story that make last of us such a great game. Most reviews are subjective and not everyone is gonna like every game. I'm super excited for the PS4 release especially if it runs anywhere from 45-60fps, which is really the only thing that matters to me in fixing the game. After that the Last of Us is literally gonna be perfection.

That said I would wait for more reviews and most def not base anything on this one 6/10 review. Once the other reviews come out then we will know whether the guy was bullshit or whether he really didn't like the game cause it wasn't all that great. Only seen 2 of the trailers so I've haven't spoiled too much of the cool things in the game yet, hopefully.

I'm hoping the game is just as great as Bastion as I got a 20$ PSN card sitting right next to me to buy this on PS4 once dem reviews come out.
 

kinoki

Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I don't know, if you look at TLOU from a purely technical stand-point and then give it a 6/10 then there's something wrong. Whether he LIKED it or not shouldn't have affected his score that drastically.

I can see WHY it would affect his score, as it's hard to drop personal assertions, but I think if you're being paid to review a product then you should do it with as little personal bias as possible. I don't like GoT but if I was paid to review it, I would probably end up giving it a higher score than 6/10.

I'd argue the opposite. While the reviewer can acknowledge the technical prowess his profession is to give his opinion of the product as a whole. If he feels that the tech is enough for him to consider it good then that's his opinion.

Speaking of which. When do the reviews hit?
 
I realize I'm probably in the minority here, but I didn't much care for Bastion's gameplay.

Gameplay is my biggest worry here as well.

On the other hand, I want to support Supergiant, so I'll probably buy this anyway.
 

Trey

Member
I don't know, if you look at TLOU from a purely technical stand-point and then give it a 6/10 then there's something wrong. Whether he LIKED it or not shouldn't have affected his score that drastically.

I can see WHY it would affect his score, as it's hard to drop personal assertions, but I think if you're being paid to review a product then you should do it with as little personal bias as possible. I don't like GoT but if I was paid to review it, I would probably end up giving it a higher score than 6/10.

This view is exactly why most media is so homogenized and the gaming industry is being squeezed to AAA blockbusters.

If he thought it was a 6/10, he thought it was a 6/10. You read a reviewer in part for their personal biases.
 

CheesecakeRecipe

Stormy Grey
Speaking of which. When do the reviews hit?

9PM PST, an hour before the game drops.

I realize I'm probably in the minority here, but I didn't much care for Bastion's gameplay.

Gameplay is my biggest worry here as well.

On the other hand, I want to support Supergiant, so I'll probably buy this anyway.

You aren't alone. I did not find the combat very engaging or deep or even all that satisfying even with several of the mutators activated. I like the look of the tactical combat but I do worry that it will remain unsatisfying. Only one way to find out.
 
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