Not really. If the guy has a decent PC it will look a hell of a lot better than the PS3 version which is a pretty good reason to want it on Steam in my opinion. Personally I was surprised to find that the mouse and keyboard control scheme worked a lot better than using a gamepad which is one more reason (for me at least) to prefer the PC version.
I'd wager that getting the trophy for beating the final level without deaths on Very Hard is going to be considerably more difficult due to how different the properties for the grappling hook; with a controller, it automatically latches onto the closest grapple point instead of the free-aim you get with M/KB. That's going to make a couple of sections very hairy.
Not really. If the guy has a decent PC it will look a hell of a lot better than the PS3 version which is a pretty good reason to want it on Steam in my opinion. Personally I was surprised to find that the mouse and keyboard control scheme worked a lot better than using a gamepad which is one more reason (for me at least) to prefer the PC version.
Not really. If the guy has a decent PC it will look a hell of a lot better than the PS3 version which is a pretty good reason to want it on Steam in my opinion. Personally I was surprised to find that the mouse and keyboard control scheme worked a lot better than using a gamepad which is one more reason (for me at least) to prefer the PC version.
And that would have been a perfectly fine reason if he had stated so. He didn't say that though. He said: "Haven't spend any money on PSN yet and I'd like to keep it that way" implying that he is perfectly fine with giving money to Valve, but not Sony for some abstract reason.
If you have twenty dollars, you have thirty dollars. Holding out for a "deal" on such a fantastic game makes you a sad sack that is only hurting himself.
Better DRM, better control options, 60fps, better graphics and the ability to play it on a lot more machines makes it make a heck of a lot of sense to me. *Shrugs*
And that would have been a perfectly fine reason if he had stated so. He didn't say that though. He said: "Haven't spend any money on PSN yet and I'd like to keep it that way" implying that he is perfectly fine with giving money to Valve, but not Sony for some abstract reason.
This is exactly what doesn't make sense. It would be different if he stated what brain_stew just did...but I don't quite understand not spending money on a console for the principle of...what?
Everybody should just skip out on a night at the pub and give this game a download on whatever platform you can, I'm on the second last level and it's been so worth it. Co-op is a blast too.
This is exactly what doesn't make sense. It would be different if he stated what brain_stew just did...but I don't quite understand not spending money on a console for the principle of...what?
Who cares. I wouldn't spend money on any Steam game for example, for simple reason that I don't want any DRM on my computer games, or for a game to require online connection to be played. On consoles you don't have choice in matter, but on PC there almost always is. Everyone has their reasons.
Who cares. I wouldn't spend money on any Steam game for example, for simple reason that I don't want any DRM on my computer games, or for a game to require online connection to be played. On consoles you don't have choice in matter, but on PC there almost always is. Everyone has their reasons.
Who cares. I wouldn't spend money on any Steam game for example, for simple reason that I don't want any DRM on my computer games, or for a game to require online connection to be played. On consoles you don't have choice in matter, but on PC there almost always is. Everyone has their reasons.
This is exactly what doesn't make sense. It would be different if he stated what brain_stew just did...but I don't quite understand not spending money on a console for the principle of...what?
Fair enough, though he may be talking about the DRM implications which are a bit iffy on the console side, especially wrt whether the PS4 will be BC with your digital purchases. hat I've alreadyused my Steam account on a bout half a dozen machines already and that it will support plenty of machines in the future is very reassuring. Still, Sony have a pretty solid DRM scheme all things considered, so it seems a silly reason, I could absolutely understand not wanting to spend on XBLM or Wiiware, they're rather restrictive tbh.
Zefah said:
You must not be doing much PC gaming if you can't handle DRM.
I can't think of any Steam games that require an internet connection to play outside of the initial activation.
Honestly, Steam's DRM scheme is very fair. It actually offers you the ability to do a lot of stuff that you couldn't with a disc copy, which is pretty damn cool. The ease with which you can move games around different machines with such ease (and in a variety of ways, download, backup DVD, straight copy paste of the Steamapps data etc.) is damn nice.
Honestly, Steam's DRM scheme is very fair. It actually offers you the ability to do a lot of stuff that you couldn't with a disc copy, which is pretty damn cool. The ease with which you can move games around different machines with such ease (and in a variety of ways, download, backup DVD, straight copy paste of the Steamapps data etc.) is damn nice.
Pretty much, the portability of my steam games is the reason why I've become so accepting of it's drm. Whenever i do a fresh install of windows, i just copy over a single folder and then my entire library is installed.
There's almost always a way around it. Yes, Steam DRM is fair, I'm aware of that, but I see no reason compelling enough to have it, when you can have the same games without it, still installed on your HDD. One nice incentive I've seen on another similar weak-DRM PC service PlayGreenhouse (which doesn't have launcher), is to have the game you purchased on PC for free on Mac or Linux, if the game is available on them.
Some people prefer playing on the PC if given a choice. I'm not one of those people, I have tons of XBLA and PSN games. But if he wants it on Steam instead of PSN, that's his business.
Some people prefer playing on the PC if given a choice. I'm not one of those people, I have tons of XBLA and PSN games. But if he wants it on Steam instead of PSN, that's his business.
:lol it's like I'm talking to brick walls in here. Preferring to play a game on the PC over consoles is perfectly fine, nobody cares, BUT HE DID NOT PHRASE HIS COMMENT LIKE THAT. What's so hard to understand about that? Re-read his original comment.
If it was $10 less I'm sure people would be recommending it to everyone they know. The perceived difference between $30 and $20 is huge. A great game at $20 is generally considered a steal. At $30 that perceived value is greatly diminished.
I think the level of excitement would be a lot higher if the game was $20. Hopefully it will do a lot better on PSN and later on XBL.
Started playing this yesterday on the PC and am really enjoying it. Great look, decent puzzles, suitably difficult and fun to play. Might be a year end top-10 of mine.
It's been mentioned on every gaming podcast that I listen to and every multiplatform gaming site that I read, with the coverage being overwhelmingly favorable. The only digital delivery game that I remember getting this much coverage was Braid. I'm not counting titles from major publishers or longtime franchises like Worms. Trine is getting a TON of attention for what it is.
-it has fantastic visuals that are easily scalable to lower-end systems
-it has 16 levels filled to the brim with environmental puzzles with tons of ways to solve each one
-each level has a lot of secrets to find, most of which are actually well-hidden and worth pursuing
-finely tuned gameplay that encourages experimentation
-achievements that are actually fun and challenging to obtain
-a fine co-op mode with the possibility of an online patch later down the line
-support for multiple controller configurations, including a "better than gamepad" mouse/keyboard setup
-it has fantastic visuals that are easily scalable to lower-end systems
-it has 16 levels filled to the brim with environmental puzzles with tons of ways to solve each one
-each level has a lot of secrets to find, most of which are actually well-hidden and worth pursuing
-finely tuned gameplay that encourages experimentation
-achievements that are actually fun and challenging to obtain
-a fine co-op mode with the possibility of an online patch later down the line
-support for multiple controller configurations, including a "better than gamepad" mouse/keyboard setup
-it has fantastic visuals that are easily scalable to lower-end systems
-it has 16 levels filled to the brim with environmental puzzles with tons of ways to solve each one
-each level has a lot of secrets to find, most of which are actually well-hidden and worth pursuing
-finely tuned gameplay that encourages experimentation
-achievements that are actually fun and challenging to obtain
-a fine co-op mode with the possibility of an online patch later down the line
-support for multiple controller configurations, including a "better than gamepad" mouse/keyboard setup
I still would have, but I agree with the earlier post that there is a big difference between $20 and $30. I think it really would have struggled at $30 on PSN or XBL.
If you have twenty dollars, you have thirty dollars. Holding out for a "deal" on such a fantastic game makes you a sad sack that is only hurting himself.
It's all mental, but it's still significant enough. $20 is a $20 bill. I can get $20 from the ATM no problem. $30 is two or more seperate bills, a denomination I can't withdraw so easily. Even though this is a digital purchase, people still apply their cash purchasing style to their CC purchasing style. Similarly, $20 is one third of a full-priced or the price of a shitty used game/PS2 classic, $30 is half of a full-priced game OR the used value of a full-priced quality game, OR the price of a brand new Greatest Hits such as MGS4. Trine does not equal MGS4. In the end we all assign certain values to certain games, and a downloadable side-scroller that doesn't last more than 5-6 hours doesn't equate to theprice point of $30 for most people.
It's all mental, but it's still significant enough. $20 is a $20 bill. I can get $20 from the ATM no problem. $30 is two or more seperate bills, a denomination I can't withdraw so easily. Even though this is a digital purchase, people still apply their cash purchasing style to their CC purchasing style. Similarly, $20 is one third of a full-priced or the price of a shitty used game/PS2 classic, $30 is half of a full-priced game OR the used value of a full-priced quality game, OR the price of a brand new Greatest Hits such as MGS4. Trine does not equal MGS4. In the end we all assign certain values to certain games, and a downloadable side-scroller that doesn't last more than 5-6 hours doesn't equate to theprice point of $30 for most people.
It's all mental, but it's still significant enough. $20 is a $20 bill. I can get $20 from the ATM no problem. $30 is two or more seperate bills, a denomination I can't withdraw so easily. Even though this is a digital purchase, people still apply their cash purchasing style to their CC purchasing style. Similarly, $20 is one third of a full-priced or the price of a shitty used game/PS2 classic, $30 is half of a full-priced game OR the used value of a full-priced quality game, OR the price of a brand new Greatest Hits such as MGS4. Trine does not equal MGS4. In the end we all assign certain values to certain games, and a downloadable side-scroller that doesn't last more than 5-6 hours doesn't equate to theprice point of $30 for most people.
Not understanding graphic war here, its a PSN title and its most likely full 1080p 60 FPS with 2 or 4x AA on PS3. I'm go with the cheaper version here.
Not understanding graphic war here, its a PSN title and its most likely full 1080p 60 FPS with 2 or 4x AA on PS3. I'm go with the cheaper version here.
