balladofwindfishes
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Chuck making a deal with the devil, he will just stab you in the back later.
What deal? There was no deal, that's why the Republicans are furious at Trump.
Chuck making a deal with the devil, he will just stab you in the back later.
Yeah, the worst that happens is Trump changes his mind and we're just back at square one. Trump didn't get any concession from this, Schumer just got Trump's support for free.What deal? There was no deal, that's why the Republicans are furious at Trump.
What deal? There was no deal, that's why the Republicans are furious at Trump.
That wasn't directed at you. That was directed at people. People like Trump supporters and the GOP. I think one of our leaders doing it isn't a great look, but whatever.
And I voted for Hillary, but nice job adding to your real adult convo by throwing out baseless assumptions.
Then Republicans are still pissed at Trump for eating up precious time.Still, he will change his mind tomorrow to get back in good graces with R's. He is not for anything. Whatever in the moment.
Chuck making a deal with the devil, he will just stab you in the back later.
Still, he will change his mind tomorrow to get back in good graces with R's. He is not for anything. Whatever in the moment.
So Trump either:
1) is forced to sign a more liberal bill than what the GOP would have present
2) signs no bill presented to him. Government shuts down. And the suspected Blue Wave become a confirmed Blue Harvey-Irma.
If this is backstabbing, backstab away, Trump lol
Moments after news broke that President Donald Trump had abruptly sided with Democrats on a short-term debt ceiling increase, hurricane relief and a federal funding bill over the unanimous opposition of Republicans, a wave of cheers and applause emanated from the room on the second floor of the Capitol building where Senate Democrats were meeting over lunch.
When they emerged, however, Democrats were coy about what the burst of celebration was for.
”Oh, was there applause?" Sen. Bob Casey (D-PA) said with a smile. ”Maybe they were clapping for somebody's birthday. Who knows?"
”We clap for a lot of things in our caucus," Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) deadpanned.
While playing down the political victory they had just scored—winning all of their demands from a Republican president—the Democrats acknowledged that the deal gives them leverage down the road to extract concessions from the Republican majority, such as protections for immigrants now at risk of losing their DACA protections.
”You bet," Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) responded when asked by TPM if the three-month timeline gives Democrats an upper hand in future negotiations over DACA. ”We're going to have the chance over the next few weeks to talk about how these young people really represent the best of America. This gives us a chance to make the case for good policy, and good policy is the best politics."
Casey agreed, telling TPM: ”We've often done short term deals on a number of things, not just CRs. It's one way to keep everyone at the table."
Asked about President's Trump decision Wednesday to side with Democrats over his own party, Casey laughed. ”Well, that doesn't happen very often," he said.
Though mostly somber following the White House meeting, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer allowed himself a small amount of gloating when speaking to reporters on Wednesday, saying of Trump: ”To his credit, he went with the better argument."
Rank-and-file Republicans were more open about their displeasure.
”Patience is wearing thin on short-term funding of this government," Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC) told reporters. ”It's just horrible. It's fiscal malpractice. It's just gotta end."
Though Tillis hesitated when asked if Democrats out-maneuvered Republicans on this deal, which could pass the Senate as early as Thursday, he grudgingly admitted: ”For people who want to keep score, maybe that's true."
Both sides have made it perfectly clear they will not accept funding for the wall tied to a debt ceiling increase.
That won't work, though. They need at least some Dems to vote for the debt ceiling. None will vote if wall funding is attached.
This is so bewildering because trump is getting literally no things out of this besides hurting Ryan and McConnell. Pelosi and schumer aren't going to assume this is a done deal til the ink is dry and aren't gonna assume trump will do the same thing later.Chuck making a deal with the devil, he will just stab you in the back later.
Ew. This looks gross on Schumer too.
That wasn't directed at you. That was directed at people. People like Trump supporters and the GOP. I think one of our leaders doing it isn't a great look, but whatever.
And I voted for Hillary, but nice job adding to your real adult convo by throwing out baseless assumptions.
This is so bewildering because trump is getting literally no things out of this besides hurting Ryan and McConnell. Pelosi and schumer aren't going to assume this is a done deal til the ink is dry and aren't gonna assume trump will do the same thing later.
Chuck making a deal with the devil, he will just stab you in the back later.
When they emerged, however, Democrats were coy about what the burst of celebration was for.
Oh, was there applause? Sen. Bob Casey (D-PA) said with a smile. Maybe they were clapping for somebodys birthday. Who knows?
We clap for a lot of things in our caucus, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) deadpanned.
This is actually pretty hilarious. Trump fucks over his party and probably doesn't even understand how or why.
From what's being reported. He knew he was giving it to Paul and Mitch and that was part of his motivation for doing so.
How petty could this man be
This is so bewildering because trump is getting literally no things out of this besides hurting Ryan and McConnell.
Isn't the top complaint from most average Joe Sixpack is that there is a lack of bipartisanship?
A bipartisan deal is made and we immediately go back to keeping score and declaring victory over each other?
Huh wonder why there is a lack of bipartisanship. Hyuk hyuk.
Democrats have been really careful not to give away the game. See Schumer shushing his caucus after McCain's infamous thumbs down vote on ACA repeal.
Isn't the top complaint from most average Joe Sixpack is that there is a lack of bipartisanship?
A bipartisan deal is made and we immediately go back to keeping score and declaring victory over each other?
Huh wonder why there is a lack of bipartisanship. Hyuk hyuk.
Isn't the top complaint from most average Joe Sixpack is that there is a lack of bipartisanship?
A bipartisan deal is made and we immediately go back to keeping score and declaring victory over each other?
Huh wonder why there is a lack of bipartisanship. Hyuk hyuk.
Objectively this is total victory for Democrats. Trump doest get shit out of it except for screwing over Ryan and Turtle.
Sorry that some of us don't want to settle for simply total victory over 45.Objectively this is total victory for Democrats. Trump doest get shit out of it except for screwing over Ryan and Turtle.
What's amazing is that we were able to leverage his pettiness to our advantage. If the GOP and Trump keep butting heads, I'm curious if he tries to reach across the isle to caucus with dems again. He wants a win so so bad.
Chuck making a deal with the devil, he will just stab you in the back later.
No Dem should be looking at Trump like that. Hell, no one in general, but that's asking too much because people are idiots. I don't care what they got in return. You nod your head and say "thank you Mr. President" and continue about your business, happy that you were able to get something across this diabolical pussy's infantile administration, and don't give him an inch of leverage personally. This is politics. Business. And what Trump is good at is making business personal.
You don't look at him like you want him to go to a baseball game with you and that you didn't call for his impeachment. That's just Trump working his little petty game, that works with little petty people.
I can already see it now. "Chuck Schumer, who nearly kissed me when I agreed to his debt ceiling proposal, now wants to oppose our tax reform bill. What crooks dems are. Slimy Schumer!"
.Democrats can't even achieve total victory without some segments of the base getting mad about something.
Yes but is it good governance for America.
So it's a resistance until someone flatters us? What a strong message the dems are pushing for us to keep beating. Resist resist, but suck his cock if it helps.
Chuck making a deal with the devil, he will just stab you in the back later.
Even when the Democrats pull a gambit rivaling that of David Xanatos and all for the good of the average American, it's STILL not enough for some people?
What do you fucking want?
I don't get it,.... why does Trumps support matter here? If republicans have the majority, don't the democrats need republican votes for whatever bill, plan or proposal they put forward?
LOLOLOLOLOL
Even when the Democrats pull a gambit rivaling that of David Xanatos and all for the good of the average American, it's STILL not enough for some people?
What do you fucking want?
I don't get it,.... why does Trumps support matter here? If republicans have the majority, don't the democrats need republican votes for whatever bill, plan or proposal they put forward?
LMAO.
I bet Chuck laid on thick that grandiose New Yorker accent and puffed Trump's ego up a bit. ez af, orange cow is such a muppet for everyone. Too bad Republican law makers aren't smart enough to play him.