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[Haunted]

As a black Eastern Pennsylvania I can confirm the massive support for Trump. Trump/Pence signs everywhere.

Newest PA polls from 538:

Date            Pollster               Rating    Leader
OCT. 7-11	Selzer & Company          A+     Clinton +9
OCT. 3-6	Marist College	          A      Clinton +11
OCT. 5-7	YouGov	                  B      Clinton +9
OCT. 4-9	Susquehanna Polling       B-     Clinton +5

I live in NH and the Trump ads and signs have been pouring out of basically nowhere.

It's scary, but I hope it's just nothing

Newest NH polls from 538:

Date            Pollster                   Rating    Leader
OCT. 7-9	Public Policy Polling	     B+      Clinton +12
OCT. 3-5	Suffolk University           B+      Clinton +3
SEP. 29-OCT. 2	Greenberg Quinlan Rosner     B-      Clinton +9

Anecdotal evidence is one thing, poll numbers from rated pollsters and adjusted after 538's determined house effect quite another. (i.e. calm down people, it's looking good for Clinton right now ) She's over 80% to win in both states.

 

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[Aaron Strife]

Anecdotal evidence is one thing, poll numbers from rated pollsters and adjusted after 538's determined house effect quite another. (i.e. calm down people, it's looking good for Clinton right now ) She's over 80% to win in both states.

As a rule of thumb people need to stop reading into yard signs and bumper stickers and other meaningless garbage to determine who's going to win a state or an election. I see many more Republican than Democratic signs and stickers in suburban Minnesota and they're not winning shit.

Interestingly I never see this flipped around (i.e. people in Austin or Atlanta don't think Texas or Georgia are blue states). Seems to me like liberals are inclined to panic and desperately search for reasons to justify said panic ("WHAT IF NEW YORK GOES RED THIS YEAR!?!?!?!?") whereas conservatives like to smugly assume they're a firm majority and look for anything to back them up on this.

If Trump were to win Pennsylvania he'd still be short of 270 with OH, FL, NC. He'd have to pull in one more state(Utah, Iowa, NH, NV). If Utah put Clinton in the White House all because of McMuffin it'd be the most talked about election throughout eternity.

If a McMullin win in Utah kept both candidates under 270 it would go to the House who would most likely elect Trump or McMullin. Also, this isn't happening.

 

[Velcro Fly]

McMullin winning Utah would be amazing though.

 

[Fistwell]

Spoiler

I was tempted to post "Grab me by the Virginia if old."

Welp, there go all my clever puns. Foiled!

 

[Biske]

I don't understand why the McMullin campaign and other folks are saying if it came down to it the house would elect McMullin, seems like the perfect way to piss off literally everyone in the country.

We have this whole fucking election only to give it all to one guy who won one state?

Of all the crazy shit that has gone on, this idea is the fucking nuttiest.



McMullin is so obviously out to be a pain in the ass to Trump, I get his tin foil hat excuse to cover it up. But Jesus. Who believes this shit.

 

[Bluth54]

McMullin winning Utah would be amazing though.

Yeah it would be pretty interesting to see a third party candidate win one state.

 

[ErasureAcer]

I don't understand why the McMullin campaign and other folks are saying if it came down to it the house would elect McMullin, seems like the perfect way to piss off literally everyone in the country.

Because they don't know what they're talking about. If 3 different candidates receive electoral votes only the top 2 are eligible to win the Presidency. If 4 candidates were to receive electoral votes the state delegations of the US House of Representatives would be able to choose from the top 3 EV getters. McMuffin fans need Johnson or Stein to win a state and no more than Utah's 6 EVs for the House to even vote for McMuffin.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

"Grab them right in the virginia"

no more

 

[nomis]

I'm not trusting any polls. There are a ton of people who won't even admit to voting for him.

Since when are these polls not done with anonymity? Lol