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Trump contradicts Tillerson on North Korea, the latest in a series of put-downs
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guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
The current US president is literally posting constantly about how he wants to murder people
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Ok lets go with filled facts...What has he accomplished in office with his "strategy"? Surely someone using such high level tactics would've secured come meaningful win legislatively, right?
Я знаю, но недавно я купил эту учетную запись у кого-то на Ebay.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Oh so you admit you are totally wrong and that Trump is in fact a complete idiot who apparently spends whatever money he has left after bankruptcy collecting rare pogs on EBay?? Excellent.
Well he is playing golf while people die in PR
Where has Trump shown an ounce of intelligence in the past 9 months? He legit has no idea what he's doing and it clearly shows. Trump is not even at the level of W. Bush and that guy was a bonafide idiot the majority of the time. We actually have a barometer when it comes to this stuff.
This whole "Trump is a secret genius" nonsense needs to stop. The fact that some people even believe it it's so sad. If he's so smart, how come ISIS is still alive and kicking? After all, this is the same idiot who said he had a 30-day secret plan that was amazing.
Elwood Blues
Member
I'm starting to think Trump is not a good president.
His problem is his lack of competence, not his lack of intelligence. Even if he earned every dollar he ever had with the power of a genius-level business intellect, that doesn't mean he makes a good president.
Would you want Donald Trump to perform open heart surgery on you, or design NASA's next space vehicle? Hell, would you even want him to do tech support on your computer? No. Because he's not competent to do those jobs, "smart" or not.
The man is not cut out to be president, and he shows that literally every day of the week.
And it's not like he had a rough few months adjusting to the job and is getting better. He's the same jackass he was on day one, except maybe slightly angrier. Trump is terrible at pretty much every aspect of his job.
This implies Trump has the capacity to think up, and carry, out a plan. What in his history makes you think he has that capacity?
Gaius Cassius
Member
And 30 something percent love him. Makes you wonder doesn't it? Do 30 percent of the US population just want a homicidal maniac as president? Do they want someone that will wage war on the world? Does such a large part of our population look forward to genocidal destruction and carnage?
Maybe its not that they take pleasure in it, but view killing as neccessary. 'No peace. Just fight and kill everyone different from you'. When I was getting my degree in a little Texas town a few years ago, before Trump, I knew a Marine combat veteran guy that served in Iraq. When I would drink with him, hed openly say that the he wished for the entire middle east region be glassed into a parking lot. Children and all. When I complained about that attitude, I was that he may have more 'insight' in 'the problem' because he had served and saw this problem firsthand. It says a Lot about us as Americans today that we've allowed it to get this bad.
Chuck Norris
Banned
He treats nuclear warfare like it's a GOP debate. Dumb talking points and weak nicknames for his opponents
Oh don't get it twisted, I don't think Trump came up with this if it is indeed a ploy.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
He's literally testing the boundaries for when he said, on a mic, that he could murder people and get away it it.
This is him doing exactly what he said he'd do during the campaign.
Gaius Cassius
Member
Yup. Again, this is what his base believes. 30 percent of our country want to just glass parts of the Earth at will.
For you to try and set up a bad cop, good cop, routine the good cop has to have the appearance of being able to deliver the goods, what's the point of backing down from the bad cop and making a deal with the good cop if the bad cop's just going to turn around and rip the deal up anyways?
Because, while I get that the US doesn't have permanent dictators and thus every 4-8 years we have a new personality so technically everything Trump wants to rip up wasn't his doing, it sets a bad precedent when the United States President is openly hostile to nearly every deal past administrations have made and makes it look like any deal reached by any arm or branch of the government that isn't Donald Trump isn't worth the paper it's printed on. His rhetoric for Iran is probably more damning than his statements on NAFTA or NATO in this regard as it more closely mirrors North Korea's position.
I just don't believe that Trump has fostered the kind of environment where this tactic could work. He would have needed to continue to respect and promote the idea that the State Department's dealings were final and legitimate and he continues to do the opposite.
With that said, there's virtually no chance that any peaceful outcome in regards to North Korea has anything to do with Donald Trump's negotiating prowess and everything to do with how little Kim Jong Un wants war.
jimmypython
Member
Rex is a good man. He is treated extremely unfairly by the fake news media. Well see what happens.
Then Friday comes.
Then Friday comes.
Smiles and Cries
Member
How does anyone get away with this type of shit?
This leaves no room for diplomacy at all. This wanna be cowboy talks big but, I hope he does not get away with this level of screwing shit up.
This leaves no room for diplomacy at all. This wanna be cowboy talks big but, I hope he does not get away with this level of screwing shit up.
You're wrong, it's not.
Link
The Autumn Wind
As long as it pisses off liberals.
Yep. Not only is he not adjusting to the job, he seems to be getting increasingly angry, frustrated, and lazy as he's not getting what he wanted to out of the job.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Why does the article suppose Tillerson is not long for the job when Trump said in his tweet how wonderful he is?
Much ado about nothing, methinks.
Much ado about nothing, methinks.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Trump says that about everyone at some point only to later see that person resign or get fired
'Great guy! Treated badly by Fake News'
Trump typically calls someone a "Good man" right before he fires them/they quit.
You can't expect everyone to remember the date they made every single burner account.
Always-honest
Banned
It could fill all books. This man doesn't know anything.
Nor is he curious.
Would certainly be preferable to only get new threads when he tweets something that isn't stupid.
Jorok Goldblade
Member
If there's any "ploy" going on, it's that he's seen the criticism of how he's handling Puerto Rico, and thinks threatening to bomb someplace will make people think he's a good president because it worked for about a day that one time with Syria.
This implies Trump is smart enough to carry out someone else's plan without letting everyone know that's what he's doing. He's got a pretty long history of not being able to do that.
Hmmm I remember reading somewhere that several of the positions Tillerson wanted appointed weren't going through because Trump insisted on personally approving each and every one. Apparently lots of people Tillerson appointed weren't brought on, or are still waiting on approval.
llien
Member
Fuck me for siding with Russian troll, but people can't be serious about "idiot" claims.
Selfish asshole - yeah.
An opportunist - yeah.
Dangerous in his ignorance (no experience in politics whatsoever) - yeah.
Was fine with Russian's helping him get elected - yeah.
He is an idiot politician, compared to, say, Merkel.
But he is definitely not stupid, compared to an average person.
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
You can't possibly say this if you've been paying any attention at all over the past few years.
Atom Heart Mother
Banned
What a shame -- I actually believe in Tillerson. I've watched most interviews with him and he seems like he just wants to do his job correctly but is constantly being talked down by Trump.
To be fair the average person isn't that bright and shouldn't be president either. I think it's more that the average person has a less fucked up world view than Trump.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Is Trump genocidal? A master strategist playing 11th dimension chess? Or just a blowhard who sees negotiation/compromise as a weakness, who only seems to know that his supporters will rally to him as long as he's unapologetically yelling at someone and blaming others for current problems?
This crisis exemplifies everything about his policy moves thus far. Unless he's being spoon fed talking points by Hannity, his default mode is "X is an idiot, X is a bad guy, I'm going to make America great again by doing the opposite of Obama!" There is no conviction, no master plan. He says the first thing that pops into his head, without filter, no matter who it insults or what the consequences are.
This can be just as dangerous as having a genocidal warlord (see Kim) or a master strategist (Putin) at the helm, but the grasp of the situation just isn't there.
You insult people actually suffering from Alzheimer's and mental illness, etc, when you let Trump off the hook for his asinine commentary by attributing it to one of the former without diagnosis.
It is entirely possible to be a stupid asshole without something physically wrong with your brain.
Link
The Autumn Wind
He's definitely an idiot. I wouldn't be shocked if his IQ was in the 70's.
No hes legit stupid and its not just age. Although he was marginally more coherent in his youth his interviews from the 80s and 90s are those of a stupid person who thinks he sounds clever. Id be wary of anyone who thinks hes intelligent.
Trump has always been an intellectual toilet. Sorry Wuvcraft but hes a know nothing blowhard who bought a degree from Wharton.
Jorok Goldblade
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