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Trump lectured generals on Afghan war, wanted to fire commander, also NYC restaurant

In context, Trump is just using this as an excuse to blow off the informed expertise that disagrees with his hot take on the situation. He does this constantly by using "people tell me" and "everyone knows" to justify unsupported claims and this is no different.

Even if we assume Trump is operating in good faith here: the experience and feedback of workers is valuable for the business functions they interact with. Servers in a restaurant can probably tell you a lot about what's going right or wrong for the business because their job interacts with all of it. Oil rig workers can probably not tell you much about Exxon's global business strategy. Soldiers in a war can tell you a lot about the shit they personally have to deal with, which may be revealing of larger problems (like the logistics of the Iraq war with soldiers not getting body armor), but to have this kind of anti-elitist framing around a conversation that included pillaging mineral rights is insane.

In regards to your second paragraph, I totally agree, which is why I included that last sentence in what I wrote. But that state of mind is salient to effective leadership and not necessarily a reflection of ego or anti-elitist tendencies. But we are talking about Trump, so you are probably more right than wrong on this one.

But I think his "people tell me" shtick is more of a rhetorical technique or common locution than an insight into how he views the world. Again, I could be wrong, but I would not read too much into specific phrases or his habits of speech. We may not be impressed by how he communicates, but he did convince half the country to elect him; consider that for whatever it is worth.
 

Mahonay

Banned
Make sure to thank all of your beloved Republicans, military personnel, look at the wonderful Dear Leader they've handed you. The biggliest Commander in Chief.
 
Two Pentagon officials close to Mattis said he returned from the White House that morning visibly upset. Mattis often takes a walk when grappling with an issue. That afternoon, the walk took longer than usual, the officials said.

In the movie, this would be the end of Act 1 (of 3). Or perhaps the end of Act 2 (of 5)?
 

norm9

Member
This will be in the Kelly-Mattis solo film

They can be in the Problem Child reboot.

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Apt101

Member
It's amazing how blatant he is with war pillaging for profit but no one calls him on it.

Many people who voted for him want us to pillage the places we fight in. I mean, we kind of already do by at least enriching private contractors in every conflict. Those places suffer so companies like Blackwater / Xi / whatever they're named now can get bank.
 
It's amazing how blatant he is with war pillaging for profit but no one calls him on it.
That's because that's the goal when politicians say, American interests overseas.

No one should be surprised. The goal is always the pillage valuable resources.
 

VariantX

Member
Every day its some new bullshit with this guy. He is steadily working himself right out of office and that's long before anything having to do with the investigation lead by Mueller takes effect.
 

linkboy

Member
I'm so glad I got out of the military before this shit stain totally fucks everything up more then it already is.
 
You 👏 Can't 👏 Run 👏 A 👏 Country 👏 Like 👏 A 👏 Business
Nobody really even wants the country run like a business anyway. Running a business naturally involves making as much money as you can. That is, maximizing your revenue stream. What's the revenue stream for a country? Taxes. Ergo, if you really wanted to run a country like you would a business, that would involve pushing taxes up as high as you can possibly get away with (in effect, maximizing revenue). But few people actually want to do that, for obvious reasons. Just empty rhetoric that most people don't even bother to think about for more than 5 seconds, or else it would completely collapse in on itself.
 

Shauni

Member
He's basically going to get ignored soon, isn't he

I mean, he can never be fully ignored, but yeah, his status is becoming a lame duck President pretty quickly. The sanctions bill already saw Congress strong-arm him, and the fact that he's made no attempt to do anything official on his transgender ban in the military probably says a lot about how much pull he really has with the military.
 

Apt101

Member
It must suck to be this career military man, with your degrees and decades of training and experience and possibly even battle scars, then have that know-nothing turd dress you down.
 
First mouthing off about getting Iraq's oil and now Afghanistan's minerals.

This worthless piece of shit doesn't know/care about the fact that stealing a country's resources is considered a war crime and how much more danger those kinds of moves would put troops (and America) in.

No attempt to understand the military conflicts we're in and strategy, no comprehension of geopolitical issues, indifference to/ignorance of international law, no coherent or intelligent thoughts about fucking anything. Just the rambling bullshit of a guy with as much understanding about how the world works as a high-school dropout.

If you can't see how big of a fucking idiot this guy is, you yourself are a fucking idiot.
 

antonz

Member
First mouthing off about getting Iraq's oil and now Afghanistan's minerals.

This worthless piece of shit doesn't know/care about the fact that stealing a country's resources is considered a war crime and how much more danger those kinds of moves would put troops (and America) in.

No strategic intellect, no attempt to understand the military conflicts we're in, no comprehension of geopolitical issues, indifference to/ignorance of international law, no coherent or intelligent thoughts about fucking anything. Just the rambling bullshit of a guy with as much understanding about how the world works as a high-school dropout.

If you can't see how big of a fucking idiot this guy is, you yourself are a fucking idiot.

Afghanistan is playing Trump right now. Afghanistan's President has repeatedly spoken to Trump about the vast Mineral Reserves in Afghanistan as a way to try and convince Trump not to just leave. They won't give the US shit but they know Trump operates on a one track mind so just the appearance of talking Mineral wealth locks trumps attention
 

Iolo

Member
this fool who keeps playing games with military folks, he has no repect for their positions.
the guy keeps poking and poking for no good reasons

There are so few people who want to work in the Trump administration that he just has to shuffle people from one position to another.
 

Ekai

Member
"Drumpf vented to his national security team that the veterans told him forces from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization have not been helpful"

Who are these veterans and how old and xenophobic are they?
 
He shat on a three star general.

I imagine what he thinks of grunts isn't flattering either.

Trump doesn't like experts because his limited world view can be challenged. I see this moron patronizing the grunts probably because he believes that he is clearly superior to them.
 
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