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Trump to Propose Deep Cuts to Anti-Poverty Programs and Medicaid
- Thread starter HotHamBoy
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I'm happy I'm not in the US because frankly if something like this went through in my country I'd consider it my moral duty to join an armed rebellion against the Government. This is the financial equivalent of just going out and shooting US citizens in mass killing pograms.
The chances of any of this actually going through is very slim though, right?
The chances of any of this actually going through is very slim though, right?
He also sold hundreds of billions of taxpayer funded and subsidized military hardware to the Saudis so they can continue killing shiite Yemeni civilians and rebels and so he is A-okay for a lot of the Republicans who hate Iran so much.
Can't wait for the poor white sap who voted for Trump and depends on medicaid to have his coverage cut.
Entitlement reform is needed, as is balancing the budget, these deficits are unsustainable. But how the fuck can you sit there and talk about cutting wasteful spending and yet increase an already bloated military budget by $53 billion this year alone?
They would piss off basically everyone, but if they really wanted to, nobody could stop them from forcing it through. I put odds low. Trump and Ryan will try to force it but moderate republicans will be scared of losing their seats.
Giant Panda
Member
If you want to cut funding from welfare programs, you should cut from programs from the elderly, not the poor. All the spending the old get will bankrupt the government eventually if nothing is done.
Lol. Americans can't revolt or even agree on the "right" form of protesting. Hell. Half the nation thinks blocking traffic is a mortal sin and it's unacceptable to delay others with your protests.
Combine that with a lethal police force that will gladly crack the heads of people protesting wall Street stealing all their money. As the rest of the population cheers it on because "hippies" and you see exactly how this will continue. As long as it's technically legal, things will continue this death spiral.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
The. 👏Budget. 👏 Does. 👏 Not. 👏 Need. 👏 To. 👏 Be. 👏 Balanced. 👏
How else are we going to afford tax breaks for the rich. Come on man! THINK!
RPGCrazied
Member
Once again, lies. He is caught on video saying over and over again he would not cut any of these programs specially medicaid. He prided himself saying he was the only Republican that wouldn't do it.
Don't believe this man's lies.
Don't believe this man's lies.
Eldery vote, poor less so. It's why no one will ever fuck with them, not the rebublicans (I don't expect this to pass), not the democrats and also not other parties in other countries with a democracy since this is pretty much a world wide fact.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Starve to death with some dignity poor people.
acheron_xl
Member
You say that as if their goal was actually to balance the budget.
ReplacementPelican
Member
Yeah, it's harrowing that they voted against their own interests but they've been lied to and weren't to know any better. The poor and uneducated are too easily misled and the right wing in the States have become professionals at doing this. I just hope they realise that this has happened and can take action in the house/senate elections.
:Motorbass
Member
I think a good next step for him would be to exclude the poor and sick from voting.
acheron_xl
Member
Nah, they have to keep the white poor enfranchised, or else they'll never win again.
Because the United states has been infected by a toxic, emotionally charged ideology rooted in capitalism' and deployed using classic behaviorist propaganda. How many times did the words ' social contract ' get mentioned during the 2016 election campaign by any of the candidates? What percentage of voters even know who Rousseau is? And forget mentioning Marx even if you have nuance as to which parts/implementation of his ideas.
We no longer even follow the social philosophies of the 18th century in spirit, much less any of the resulting progressions of those ideas. It runs parallel with the devaluing of ' liberal arts ' and social sciences as being worthless. FDR scared the fuck out of the wealthy in this country so they used the ' war hero' mentality of WW2 to reform the fabric of the US. Combined with our neo Roman war strategy(the legions must always be fighting, a bored military class is both ineffective and a potential agent of revolution) and you have a country that is on the surface reprehensible in the core tenets it represents. Strip away the neo fascist symbology of america you see plastered everywhere, the 'pax Americana ' self serving diatribes from military hardware fetishists, and what you have is an oppressive military empire attempting to bully anyone they can.
What's truly absurd about it is that the US has such an easy pivot. Just keep exporting media, enetertainment and technology. Why are the warmongers so insecure? Probably because they aren't the source of the immense creativity this country is capable of...they can't sit back and be the passengers to those filthy godless creatives. And it's unfortunate as pride, ego, and credit really are more powerful forces than ethics/morality. That's human behavior.
KarneeKarnay
Member
Feel like the GOP are going to pass as much as possible while the Trump shit storm continues.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
i heard this yesterday. "They never did anything this for Obama!" lol
What a stupid comment that almost reads like a Logan's Run style of thinking. The elderly who paid their fair share of taxes, worked decades at hard labor jobs, lived through military drafts, there is a reason they get looked after the most now. You can't say it will bankrupt the goverment because of them and not the million other things you can cut. There is a reason social security never gets touched.
If you want to cut from the elderly, you have to cut from the poor as well. But the poor get their programs cut first because one, they pay far less in taxes, two, have contributed far less in social development of the country, and then three, do not vote in numbers the elderly do. Here is a radical thought, why not tax the rich instead of huge tax cuts under the false guise of bringing back jobs and still using that money to fund programs for the poor, elderly and disabled. You make it sound like being old in the US is a cakewalk with low prescription medications and ease of anything.
Randomizer123454444
Member
I am very sure there will be an aggressive and extensive effort to deflect the blame somewhere else.
Seth Enosh
Member
This will not happen. The trump budget is a wishlist that the GOP congress can ignore completely, just like Obama's budgets. https://twitter.com/jestei/status/866611365368254464
However, it's still pretty messed up and another failing of trump that he hired people who would propose this after promising during the campaign he was a "different kind of republican" who would not cut Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid. Sad to see my expectation that his campaign promises were complete lies is being proven again.
However, it's still pretty messed up and another failing of trump that he hired people who would propose this after promising during the campaign he was a "different kind of republican" who would not cut Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid. Sad to see my expectation that his campaign promises were complete lies is being proven again.
The Last Wizard
Member
"Well as longs as they comes for me after the queers and blacks I don't care"
There ya go.
ryutaro's mama
Member
Dead Kennedys knew what was up.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Taking people's food away doesn't magically give them a job to do. If you take their food away, they either starve or just turn to crime.
GillianSeed79
Member
As a poor person, I'm amazed by how many people hate poor people. Like an entire party's agenda is to demonize and subjugate the poor.It Doesn't even shock me any more, it only makes me sad. Like if the Republicans proposed putting us on trains or in camps, I honestly think people would support that because they falsely think we just sit at home collecting welfare when we really actually work our asses off just to barely survive and Maybe eat.
I don't think Newspeak would have a word for "dignity". Double plus good of work?
It doesn't matter, of course they'll try that and the gullible will fall for it but if people start losing essential services watch how fast they get to the polls.
ryutaro's mama
Member
There are diehard Cleveland Browns fans too.
No matter how many times the team breaks their heart, they continue rooting for them, ignoring the flaws associated with that.
Now you understand the state of the current voting climate in the United States.
Pagusas
Elden Member
If they could without consequence, dont you think they would have already?
TheCochese
Banned
Get fucked, West Virginia.
sturgboski
Member
Sure but the things he is asking for line up with Republicans anyway: steal from the poor to give to the rich.
Gee whiz, I hope his supporters who voted for him thinking he will help them realize how fucking stupid they are.
The Jackdog
Member
this cant be great for his base right?
Abstrusity
Member
No, I think it'd have been a slow boil, say...over about 37 years.
You need your misinformation, your disinformation, your slow crawl into full power, and millions of people ready to defend you when many millions more want to hang you by the ankles from the streetlights in DC and let the pigeons pick at you -- better than you deserve.
So now we have Red Cap Trumpists, Republicans that want to destroy the welfare state,
for ideological reasons, Republicans that want to destroy it to line their own pockets, Republicans that want to destroy it for liberal tears, and Republicans that really, honestly want to be shot -- again, better than they deserve.
This cannot continue. These cuts are not just drastic cuts for the poor, they're drastic cuts for businesses. SNAP alone is at a 1.8x multiplier -- this benefits more than just grocers. Farmers DO actually depend on the subsidies that have been guaranteed to go with SNAP benefits.
Americans are three missed meals from killing people for food or profit. Medicare and Medicaid cuts will kill people.
And then the rest will come for the politicians. Anger is at a fever pitch -- I fully expect assassination attempts over this. People are already getting arrested for getting rough with congresspeople.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
My last hope is that Congress saves PSLF.
False Witness
Member
Cut the Earned Income and Child Tax Credits and people will immediately notice and it will be hell to pay. People who may be too "proud" to sign up for Medicaid or Food Stamps often rely on the EIC to cover many of their yearly bills.
Might kill me. But, have you heard about this Seth guy doh'?
Yup, I am sure there are grocery stores that rely heavily on people using food stamps, WIC, and any other social program. Especially the stores in poor towns where a large part of the population are on welfare. Food stamps dry up, stores don't make any money, store closes... now what?
The GOP Congress routinely ignored a President that was a Democrat.
The GOP Congress may be less likely ignore a GOP President. Not saying he will get everything he wishes for, but its not a comparable situation.
acheron_xl
Member
And as an added bonus, the incarcerated can't vote!