SolidSnakex
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Don't count on it. Go take a look at lists for poorest states in the country. They're consistently and overwhelmingly blood red states. On the flipside, the richest states are blue. Gee, I wonder why.
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Trump to Propose Deep Cuts to Anti-Poverty Programs and Medicaid
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Don't count on it. Go take a look at lists for poorest states in the country. They're consistently and overwhelmingly blood red states. On the flipside, the richest states are blue. Gee, I wonder why.
shawnbuddy
Member
Here's what I learned from growing up poor in Appalachia. You can't eat dignity. This will lead to a lot of human suffering and possibly a "lost" generation of children that don't have the basics to succeed.
Possibly? Were already there with most millenials.
TheCochese
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It gets bad enough, they might. Different times, but one could look to 1928 and 1932.
Ofcourse he is, if anybody is good in medieval: torture, contempt for the poor and treatment of nobility king or church; it's the Saudis.
Nobody likes them, but they have to get along with them as the Saudis control all the holy places. But ask a Arab from other Arabian countries what they feel about the Saudi clan (especially the older Arabs) and you'll be surprised what you hear.
The Saudi demolished a lot of holy places they didn't like and build sky scrapers on top of them. Aisha's grave being one of them. They also love demolishing ancient things that aren't agreeing with the Saudi version of "Islam".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_early_Islamic_heritage_sites_in_Saudi_Arabia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demolition_of_al-Baqi
http://muslimobserver.com/the-grave-of-aisha/
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...grave-risks-new-muslim-division-30557589.html
If you want to know where ISIS and Al Queda get their shit from? Look at Saudi Arabia. The destruction of the Buddha statues in Afghanistan? Yup, Saudi Influence/Wahabi influence. I mean not even Iran destroys stuff like that!
A budget always needs to be balanced.
People just do not know what double entry accounting is.
shawnbuddy
Member
I mean another one.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
What's worse, is that there are people that are going to be directly affected by this and will still vote for him again, or any other Republican that agrees with this deep cut.
R10Neymarfan
Member
But the ones most affected by this will still support him
Say him and the Republican party are doing a great job and will vote to continue their slow deaths
Say him and the Republican party are doing a great job and will vote to continue their slow deaths
Republican voters cut off their nose to spite their face.
Skellig Gra
Member
lol good luck getting rid of the child tax credit
SolidSnakeUS
Member
I believe there are some people that follow them so blindly that their local rep that backed this could come to their house, kick their dog and still vote for them.
SolidSnakex
Member
They're going to need to stop falling for fear. Fear of minorities. Fear of the LGBT community. Fear of a particular religion. Because those are what Republicans go to when they need to get elected. You'll have people int he south, the poorest region in the country, that'll vote for a candidate just because they back keeping up confederacy bullshit.
EYEL1NER
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I could have sworn that I read in an article just last week about him cutting some funds to various things something along the lines of "Trump has held firm to his campaign commitment not to cut Medicaid funds (since being elected he has backtracked on his promise not to touch Medicare though)." And now here he is cutting Medicaid? It would almost be funny, this whole Trump presidency, if it weren't so sad how stupid this country is for allowing it to happen.
TheCochese
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No lies detected.
BlazinSkatinAxel
Member
Their nose was brown.
Yes, but the boil the frog slowly approach gets other people on board who would otherwise protest such moves because it doesn't affect them until later on down the road, and they can move on to worse cuts in the mean time
Not just that. A lot of people who live in these poor red states actually hate people on government assistance. They see them as free loaders which they "the working man" are paying for. So even though these people are barely making it with a shitty job they get angry when they see someone who isn't working and still making it. I hear that shit all the time.
Giant Panda
Member
No, it's to stabilize debt to GDP.
Seth Enosh
Member
Just earlier this month the congress completely ignored the last set of cuts proposed by Trump. I think these are going nowhere also. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/01/trump-budget-winners-losers-237844
Losers
Trump: The then-president-elect asked GOP lawmakers to punt on funding the government last December so he could put his imprint on the federal budget. But when he finally barged into the debate, Congress largely ignored his requests rebuffing his proposed $18 billion in cuts to domestic programs and giving him only half of the $30 billion increase in defense spending he sought. And while Trump got nearly $2 billion in new border security funds, not a penny of it will go to perhaps his biggest priority, construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
Trump: The then-president-elect asked GOP lawmakers to punt on funding the government last December so he could put his imprint on the federal budget. But when he finally barged into the debate, Congress largely ignored his requests rebuffing his proposed $18 billion in cuts to domestic programs and giving him only half of the $30 billion increase in defense spending he sought. And while Trump got nearly $2 billion in new border security funds, not a penny of it will go to perhaps his biggest priority, construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
Jup, the classic divide and conquer.
Plus the ancient: "You keep em dumb, I'll keep em poor", agreement between the Mega-capitalist and the preacher helps the GOP along as well.
Trump's budget is too extreme even for the Republicans and is likely DOA, but it's amazing how heavily it's targeted at the people who voted for him.
9 out of the 10 top states with the highest number of people on disability voted for Trump.
8 out of the top 10 states withe the highest number of food stamp users voted for Trump.
More than half of the top ten medicaid states voted for Trump.
Nearly all of the states (minus California) that most heavily use farm subsidies voted for Trump.
You expect a vicious budget from Republicans, but this is an assault on their own base as much as it's an attack on minorities (which it also is).
In places like West Virginia, where nearly ten percent of the working population is on disability, and nearly forty percent are on medicaid/CHIP, people would starve over this.
9 out of the 10 top states with the highest number of people on disability voted for Trump.
8 out of the top 10 states withe the highest number of food stamp users voted for Trump.
More than half of the top ten medicaid states voted for Trump.
Nearly all of the states (minus California) that most heavily use farm subsidies voted for Trump.
You expect a vicious budget from Republicans, but this is an assault on their own base as much as it's an attack on minorities (which it also is).
In places like West Virginia, where nearly ten percent of the working population is on disability, and nearly forty percent are on medicaid/CHIP, people would starve over this.
It was just a CR and they wanted to avoid a government shutdown before they tackled health care and tax cuts. They needed Democratic votes for the CR, unless they wanted to use reconciliation to pass that budget and then they could not use reconciliation for the Obamacare repeal.
The GOP is very willing to bundle funding cuts with tax cuts to get a budget through reconciliation, which would not need Democratic votes. And funding cuts will be needed if they want to get their huge tax cuts through reconciliation.
From being buried so far up their own asses.
Dice//
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I honestly don't know why sometimes.
Master Yoshi
Member
Pretty sure the grocery store I work at would go out of business if this happens.
Angelus Errare
Banned
As they themselves draw on government assistance.
RPGCrazied
Member
That one video needs to drown out the airwaves, the one where he is saying he will not cut these programs.
Already been said but we need a gif too.
Full video since it's so fitting:
https://youtu.be/owI7DOeO_yg
At least Mitchell and Webb sketches are getting a lot of use in the last couple of months, along with the famous "are we the baddies?"
But the economy is also going to expand at record pace in order to make any of this possible! We are going to remove 1T of direct economic spending and it's only going to grow faster!
They can't get a simple majority in the Senate either.
They don't need a simple majority in the Senate, they just need 50 votes. I'm pretty sure there are at least 50 GOP senators in love with the idea of tax cuts and recognizing they need to cut spending to get tax cuts through reconciliation.
Also that now is their best shot since there'll be more pressure next year along with the possibility of democrats retaking the house in next year elections.
Nope, they would lose more than 4 trying to pass this. I understand the need to stay motivated, but this isn't going to pass. Neither is education defending.
If Dems were able to magically pull off Montana and GA house wins not a single damn thing will pass the house until after 2018
They aren't going to pass exactly what Trump proposed, of course. But they will pass tax cuts through reconciliation. And it will require spending cuts. The larger the tax cut the larger the spending cut.
Tax cuts also get them votes, by the way. Even if it is just putting $300 in voters pocket. See Bush's tax rebates. Their logic (even if it may not ring true) will be that they will win the next elections because they put money in the voters pocket via tax cuts.
Macho Madness
Member
This whole thing is disgusting.
Macho Madness
Member
Mulvaney is a ghoul.
Jesus fucking christ. This is incredibly disgusting.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/22/trump-budget-cut-social-programs-238696
Jesus fucking christ. This is incredibly disgusting.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/22/trump-budget-cut-social-programs-238696
BoogieWoogie
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Hispanic! At the Disco
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But I'm poor, and my wife needs Medicaid 
RPGCrazied
Member
Yikes. The guy should be in a nursing home.
rokkerkory
Member
And most of these folks are ones that voted for him that will be hurt the most too.
SMH
SMH
That line made my blood boil. I have debilitating nerve damage in my leg and get SS Disability. I would if I could, but I can't work. So their solution is to cut my disability payments which I guess is supposed to make me pull on my bootstraps. Then my shitty predicament will just magically disappear. Or, you know, not.
I also love this:
"Defenders say that the budget will help all Americans by lifting economic growth. While economists on both sides of the aisle are skeptical about whether the imagined growth rate of 3 percent or above is possible, White House budget director Mick Mulvaney dismissed that skepticism in a briefing with reporters on Monday.
That assumes a pessimism about America about the economy, about its people, about its culture that we're simply refusing to accept, Mulvaney said."
That's right. Fuck the fact that it won't work - you just gotta FEEL that it will make America great. Trumpism in a nutshell.
Most likely never, but in the event that it actually got bad enough that a civil war broke out? Then yeah, that might do it.
LegendofJoe
Member
The impact will disproportionately affect African-American communities in the south. It's a big reason why Republicans in those states hate programs like Medicaid, SNAP, SS Disability, etc.
The really stupid thing about that is that these programs keep a lot of white owned businesses running. Without that cash flow a lot of them would have to close down.
Macho Madness
Member
Yeah. It's why I don't like the sneering "this is what they voted for" stuff. The people most affected by this either didn't vote at all or didn't vote Trump. Even in the red states. Especially in the red states.