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Trump: "We have many options for Venezuela...not going to rule out a military option"
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Randolph Freelander
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Immediately after the press conference, Tillerson said "shall we brief you on what's happening in Venezuela?" And Trump said "Tell Jared, I'm going golfing."
NullPointer
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Can't we just outsource this problem to Russia?
I'm only thinking of the payroll costs.
I'm only thinking of the payroll costs.
I'm sure it would be too petty and beneath him, but I'd love to see Obama retweet these when relevant.
Right, this is another downside of American aggression. In addition to threatening the well-being of millions of third world people, we're directly enabling the agendas of dangerous opportunities in these countries.
Iran was on track for substantial reform in the late 90s and early 2000s. But George Bush's batshit interventionism gave the Iranians Ahmadinejad.
Damn. Preach.
Ravensmash
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What an absolute farce.
Alex_Mexico
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Its incredible how half the country took this imbecile seriously.
English is my second language and I think I can speak it better than him.
Seriously, how hard is it to say "We're monitoring the situation as it develops but are deeply troubled by the news coming out of the country."?
Thaedolus
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Well, that's essentially what his whole presidency has been. Unpresidented!
Killa Sasa
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Trump and his ilk seriously need their own planet
Like if aliens ever find us they're gonna turn the Fuck around
Like if aliens ever find us they're gonna turn the Fuck around
Smiles and Cries
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I understand Venezuela has been going through some really bad times but seriously I feel this military option coming out of Trump's ass is just out of left field
is the guy just senile? Did he really mean to go there?
is the guy just senile? Did he really mean to go there?
If you put your faith in Trump to fix your country you will be disappointed.
Tal Shiar Agent
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You just made two complete sentences. That's two more than Trump has ever made.
He literally pulled that shit out of his ass. The situation is nowhere near "US intervention required" at this stage. It's at "We're looking at it and are disturbed at some of the news".
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
His biggest PR upticks came after a speech in which he addressed a fallen soldier, at attack in Yemen, and bombing a Syrian air field. He knows the media is eager to praise him and, so far, they've only done so when addressing military operations.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
An anti-imperialist using imperialistic talk to justify his authoritarianism is the last thing Venezuela needs, dude.
Certainly not something worse than what we have today. As a Venezuelan living in Caracas, most people here are just at a loss of what to do. More than a hundred people have died on the protests, Maduro is creating a new constitution after election a Constituent Assembly with an obvious fraud (he has 15% of support at most, reportedly 48% people voted in that election, which the opposition coalition did not vote for because it was illegal), that very assembly has taken over all the power in the country, declaring itself above any government branch, including the legislative body which is controlled by the opposition.
We have had 4 months of protests and people keep getting murdered or imprisoned and then terribly tortured (some of them have died in those tortures). An armed nationalistic rebellion is arming itself, with assaults taking place in many forts (including the largest in the country, stealing the weapons from the government army. So there is even a possibility of the country slipping into civil war.
Meanwhile, a faction in the opposition wants to go to regional elections even though the whole system is rigged and even the company that handles the voting machines (the voting process here is done with computers, it's not manual) said the results were modified in the Constituent Assembly election. Many people are opposing this decision, obviously, and the only hope we had in the opposition disappears because now one of the important parties has left the alliance because this faction wants to go to rigged elections.
Moreover, the majors of the capital (we have multiple major in different municipalities of the capital) which are part of the opposition have been accused and sentenced to prison, so they have left the country, like many politicians have been forced to the last few years. Not to mention the politicians who are already in prison, and the protesters too, more 3 thousand imprisoned and they are tortured daily.
Now, I wrote that long post because I feel that NeoGAF needs some context before jumping to conclusion, because the popular sentiment in this country is that if a military intervention takes place and replaces the government, it would be widely well-received.
Really, some people here don't even care if it is Trump or not, these news you're taking with so much dread, is for most people here the best news they have had the whole week (which is not such a big thing, considering we're living in a country where such a thing is happening, we have a projected inflation of 2000% or more and people have to rummage through the trash for food in every single street in the capital).
EDIT: I would like to add that in my case I do not support a messy military intervention. If possible, I would like the transition to be as peaceful as possible, even if such a thing has been made impossible by Maduro lately... I'm just saying that people here would actually support this. Now, if the US can intervene in a more peaceful way, that would be really great news lol
He doesn't know what is going in Venezuela. He heard the word "mess" from the reporter and went from there.
Spiritual_Chaos
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Trying to fight two fronts at the same time like Adolf.
Yoshimitsu126
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Trump, come on. Can we take a moment and ponder why Trump is so bad at politics?
Yes, you guys are already saying "Well duh!"
But I mean let's dig deeper. Earlier today, we had a thread about Trump's recent tweet about North Korea. Understandably, some people are getting scared about how he and the GOP can't stop escalating with North Korea on who has the biggest Little John.
Some people were quick to notice Trump's schemes though.
But of course, the idea of nuclear war is still frightening because people believe Trump is more senile and insane rather than a cornered politician who is diverting attention.
But now he wants to intervene with Venezuela now? His big ego couldn't settle on just North Korea and thinks doubling down will scare people even more! Instead it just shows how transparent he is in using war rhetoric to distract the masses.
But I guess it's enough for US media and public to get distracted which worries everyone else in the world.
Yes, you guys are already saying "Well duh!"
But I mean let's dig deeper. Earlier today, we had a thread about Trump's recent tweet about North Korea. Understandably, some people are getting scared about how he and the GOP can't stop escalating with North Korea on who has the biggest Little John.
Some people were quick to notice Trump's schemes though.
But of course, the idea of nuclear war is still frightening because people believe Trump is more senile and insane rather than a cornered politician who is diverting attention.
But now he wants to intervene with Venezuela now? His big ego couldn't settle on just North Korea and thinks doubling down will scare people even more! Instead it just shows how transparent he is in using war rhetoric to distract the masses.
But I guess it's enough for US media and public to get distracted which worries everyone else in the world.
Fox Mulder
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Trump tweets are the new simpson gifs. There's an appropriate one for every occasion.
Not on Trump. On international community as a whole. USA is just the lattest country to go into a hard position against Maduro but not the first.
For better or for worse what USA says will always make more noise.
NullPointer
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Green Yoshi
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He wants to win something. ;-)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/464251796354269184?lang=en
Tee-Hee.
Dubbedinenglish
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For what? If you are wanting to use force for a problem at least have a clear goal in mind, Jesus. I'm sure people in service are loving the CiC tossing around sending them in harm's way like he's talking about the fucking weather.
At this point I don't think I can be further disgusted or surprised by what the orange shitstain says, but it would be so nice if he would shut the fuck up 7 days. I just want a week - a mere week - without having to hear more of his verbal diarrhea or read another one of his g.d. tweets.
There is a problem though: Putin.
As long as Maburro is on Putin's good side, his puppet will never send the army to Venezuela.
yanipheonu
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Someone send Trump a literal saber to rattle.
gutter_trash
Banned
Muller must be getting closer
uncredited male
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I am impressed he has a general idea of where Venezuela is.
Daniel Jackson
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It's like hearing Mojo Jojo speak
Saint Gregory
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Oh god... I just realized this is true. It's just like in that 2nd pres. debate where he wouldn't admit he didn't know what the question was about so he'd just ramble off every possible answer :lol
He clearly doesn't have any idea exactly where in South America it is either. Probably think it's just past Mexico.
Smiles and Cries
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this guy's twitter account is like The Simpsons of Psychological Projection
The oil in question is absolutely terrible however.
Not that Trump knows anything about oil refining.
Mmm, I get your point and I want to be optimistic too but with Trump there will be probably another big scandal next week and Venezuela will be forgotten.
That said, what could the international community do? afaik Maduro and his minions got some advance payments from Russia so they are not precisely alone.
Putin only cares about our huge debt. Russia already seized some oil assets from us this week lol. Some ally.
It is but western media portrays it otherwise. Try to think about what happened every other time the US replaced those evil, socialist leaders in Latin America with someone the "people wanted"
I'm not saying that regime change is something the U.S. should do in this case, far from it, but saying that Maduro and all the shit he's doing, the wreck of the economy he has left, including massive, provable, voter fraud is accepted by the majority of venezulans is completely disingenuous.
But sure, stay so woke that you start thinking dictators are just leaders just because the U.S. has done some shitty things.
Alcotholic
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So does trump.
He's got an itchy finger and needs to launch the nukes soon.
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