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[jackissocool]

So you don't believe in capitalism but you own a mass manufactured PS4?

I live in capitalism not by choice. Abstaining from it accomplishes nothing but killing myself. I want to make social change.

"You're opposed top feudalism but you use the king's pitchforks? Lol"

The best thing about threads like this (flat earthers, moon landing hoaxers, etc) is that they usually manage to draw out at least one true believer.

Yes being opposed to capitalism is just like believing the earth is flat.

 

[Einchy]

I own nothing but my clothes, my dishes, my furniture, and my PlayStation. I certainly don't own factories or an enormous chain of retail stores I use to exploit the working class. There's a difference between personal property and productive property.

"There's a difference between personal property and productive property"

No there isn't.

You don't own anything because no one can own anything. I'll come by at 8 PM to get that PS4 that is near you but, of course, not owned by you.

 

[entremet]

I agree that it's not an effective form of protest. That was the first thing I said. But I'm also not gonna condemn it.

Read my comments boyo

I own nothing but my clothes, my dishes, my furniture, and my PlayStation. I certainly don't own factories or an enormous chain of retail stores I use to exploit the working class. There's a difference between personal property and productive property.

You hate capitalism but your PS4 would not exist without it.

Seem like you're not being consistent, boyo

 

[PSqueak]

I'm not surprised.

All of that applies to 4chan as well.

>4chan
>echo chamber

Go to any interest board like /co/, /v/, /a/, etc and the first thing you'll learn is that "your opinion is shit".

Even if not all boards are /b/, 4chan generally agrees that they're all assholes, so there is none of that pretention of being "the hero" rampant on tumblr.

4chan is basically Gaf with less moderation, to be honest.

 

[Littlefang]

Tough? Property is theft.

Poor Wal-Mart

They may be directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of workers in the third every year but please don't steal from them guise

How would a system without ownership even work? We wouldn't be able to drive anywhere because people would just have their cars taken by the most powerful group. Hospitals wouldn't have equipment. Hell you wouldn't even have a place to live if someone else decided to just move into your house and fight you for it.

 

[jackissocool]

You hate capitalism but your PS4 would not exist without.

Seem like you're not being consistent, boyo

I suppose you support slave economies cause that's when wheels were invented

How would a system without ownership even work? We wouldn't be able to drive anywhere because people would just have their cars taken by the most powerful group. Hospitals wouldn't have equipment. Hell you wouldn't even have a place to live if someone else decided to just move into your house and fight you for it.

There's more than one kind of property. The stuff you own and use in your personal life is fine. Owning factories and huge tracts of land that you use to exploit the working class is not.

 

[SalvaPot]

This does improve my view on Tumblr considerably. I don't think I will ever be remotely interested in visiting it, let alone look into joining it because in my mind their reputation can't get any worse (on the bright side, it's only up from here) but this does look favorably upon them to shun those people.

Honestly not everyone in tumblr is into questionable stuff, like most stories that brake claim. Its mostly an image forum for people to blog about what they like and share pictures of what they enjoy. Its actually fairly similar to neogaf or pretty much any forum you have ever visited, the problem is that it got so big and so popular that its a place for all kinds of people to meet up, and that includes said questionable stuff.

When you join tumblr you can pick and choose what you want to see and who you want to follow, I'll argue its even safer than facebook in that its rare you are going to look at stuff you are not into.

 

[PSqueak]

I suppose you support slave economies cause that's when wheels were invented

I suppose you do too, cause i can't picture you not using the wheel in your daily life.

 

[entremet]

I suppose you support slave economies cause that's when wheels were invented

Hahaha.

What a deflection!

 

[E92 M3]

Yeah but from who? If I don't accept the capitalist system of ownership - if I, in fact, believe that the capitalist concept of property is theft - then there is nothing wrong with undoing it.

Shoplifting is not a effective way to do that, of course, but why should I care if somebody steals from Wal-Mart?

You're posting on a forum that has servers located in a "capitalist society."

Do you block ads on GAF - to stop capitalism?

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

Well we have seen the "pirating from Ubisoft and EA is rightful", so I'm not too surprised by what people type in order to sell an image of themselves in the web, even on Gaf.

 

[travisbickle]

You hate capitalism but your PS4 would not exist without it.

Seem like you're not being consistent, boyo

Why would a PS4 not exist without capitalism?

 

[jackissocool]

I suppose you do too, cause i can't picture you not using the wheel in your daily life.

Hahaha.

What a deflection!

That's my point. Why do I need to support the mode of production that produced something to use that product? It's a non-sequiter.

You're posting on a forum that has servers located in a "capitalist society."

Do you block ads on GAF - to stop capitalism?

Again, see above. I didn't consent to being born I this system and living as a hermit would accomplish nothing to dismantle it. If everyone could just not participate, why would I be opposed?

 

[Violet_0]

I wanna see the receipts

wait ...

 

[jstripes]

>4chan
>echo chamber

Go to any interest board like /co/, /v/, /a/, etc and the first thing you'll learn is that "your opinion is shit".

Even if not all boards are /b/, 4chan generally agrees that they're all assholes, so there is none of that pretention of being "the hero" rampant on tumblr.

4chan is basically Gaf with less moderation, to be honest.

I've been around Tumblr long enough to see various levels of "SJW", as you call them, mercilessly attack each other over differing degrees of opinion.

 

[Kjellson]

Imagine getting a great birthday present from a friend and later finding out it was stolen.

I would be so disappointed in him or her.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

I suppose you support slave economies cause that's when wheels were invented

There's more than one kind of property. The stuff you own and use in your personal life is fine. Owning factories and huge tracts of land that you use to exploit the working class is not.

Sounds like bollocks double standards to me. I'm happy to benefit from capitalism cos I don't own factories or own land.

 

[Adnor]

The OP didn't surprise me but this thread is. I don't know if that's just trolling or account suicide.

 

[AdmiralSnackbar]

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[PSqueak]

That's my point. Why do I need to support the mode of production that produced something to use that product? It's a non-sequiter.

Because you're saying that you refuse capitalism and its concept of ownership, but in reality you engage and play by the rules of capitalism in a large scale, you just are trying to justify your thievery with bullshit you can't possibly believe and think that repeating it will deflect criticism, people in this thread are criticising your actions accordingly.

 

[Prosopon]

This isn't a fandom, this is organized crime.

 

[AlexMogil]

ANything that can give people a rush, they'll a community for it.

I dated a woman who grew up wealthy and earned almost six figures. She kept shoplifting and hiding that fact from people until she was finally caught when she was 26 or 27 (I forget). Her excuse was that it was like an addiction, the rush. Everything from planning it, pulling up in the parking lot, etc, until the eventual release once she got home and laid everything she had stolen out.

That seems to be exactly whats happening here except now they getting external validation. Add the echo chamber of approval from like minded people and you end up with self justification!

 

[SecretDan]

Why would a PS4 not exist without capitalism?

Because Sony wouldn't exist.

 

[God Dayumm]

Tumblr is a site where anyone can make a blog and post to it. What you see there is what you follow, or what you are linked to. It is not a hivemind, or a singular culture. If you only follow artists blogs on Tumblr, then to you Tumblr is an art site with a ton of art. If you go looking for garbage on any site and fixate only on that, then any site is nothing but garbage.

I don't get why this is still weird to people, it's like, how does the internet work.

Lies. Tumblr doesn't stop shoving crap i did not ask for on my homepage

 

[jackissocool]

Sounds like bollocks double standards to me. I'm happy to benefit from capitalism cos I don't own factories or own land.

Then you either don't understand your relationship to capital or like being exploited.

Because you're saying that you refuse capitalism and its concept of ownership, but in reality you engage and play by the rules of capitalism in a large scale, you just are trying to justify your thievery with bullshit you can't possibly believe and think that repeating it will deflect criticism, people in this thread are criticising your actions accordingly.

Can't possibly believe? I'm a pretty dedicated communist.

 

[StylesClash]

They won't have them. You don't get receipts for stealing. Kappa.

 

[entremet]

Because Sony wouldn't exist.

Yep. That's the short answer.

 

[injurai]

I'm calling my local fox news station to report liberal thugs.

 

[Arkeband]

Then you either don't understand your relationship to capital or like being exploited.

Can't possibly believe? I'm a pretty dedicated communist.

You're not a communist, you're just a delusional petty thief.

 

[PSqueak]

I've been around Tumblr long enough to see various levels of "SJW", as you call them, mercilessly attack each other over differing degrees of opinion.

First off, at what point have i in this thread, or my entire post history in gaf ever, used the term "SJW" other than this post?

And that's true, have witnessed myself people who think they're in the right shitting on other people who they should be cooperating with precisely because their "holier than thou" attitude.

Nobody is saying tumblr is a hivemind, hell tumblr is my main social media output, but much like the examples on this thread, many people in tumblr operate with the delusion that they are morally right and on the "high ground", that shit doesn't happen in most other sites, not even in here.

 

[jackissocool]

Yep. That's the short answer.

But why does that mean I have to support capitalism? You use things invented under previous economic systems but you would never say you have to support those. Not only that, but your argument is a total ad hominem that doesn't actually address what I'm saying.

You're not a communist, you're just a delusional petty thief.

Like look at this shit. Not at all addressing what I'm saying, literally just insulting me and making shit.

Like, I sure as fuck am a communist.

 

[SecretDan]

I'm a pretty dedicated communist.

How so?

 

[thetrin]

I wonder what shoplifters would think of regular shoppers who accidentally shoplift and then go back to the store to be honest and pay for the item.

I'm that guy.

 

[travisbickle]

Yep. That's the short answer.

No, that's not the answer.

Why wouldn't a video game console exist in an economic system that's not capitalist?

 

[Adnor]

Can't possibly believe? I'm a pretty dedicated communist.

Ok, now we know you're just bored and trolling the thread.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

Then you either don't understand your relationship to capital or like being exploited.

Can't possibly believe? I'm a pretty dedicated communist.

But you happily live in a capitalist country, with a capitalist games console, smartphone (probably) eat at capitalist restaurants, and shop at capitalist shops? Hardly Lenin, your just a thief.

 

[God Dayumm]

y'all a bunch of anti-lifters.

Do you even lift brah

 

[Syriel]

Then you either don't understand your relationship to capital or like being exploited.

Can't possibly believe? I'm a pretty dedicated communist.

So you work without getting paid then?

You give 100% of your income to the government?

 

[Einchy]

But why does that mean I have to support capitalism? You use things invented under previous economic systems but you would never say you have to support those. Not only that, but your argument is a total ad hominem that doesn't actually address what I'm saying.

Thing is, you're not really saying anything of worth. Everything you've said so far is lunacy that only you believe.

You're nothing but a thief.

 

[number47]

Why is not getting caught a rule? What kind of foolishness is this?

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Can't possibly believe? I'm a pretty dedicated communist.

You just sound like a dedicated petty thief trying to justify their douchebaggery.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Tumblr is a weird place.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

huh damn, guess the gaf has a defense force for everything meme is real

 

[smokeandmirrors]

So you work without getting paid then?

You give 100% of your income to the government?

that's literally not how any of that works but ok.

 

[entremet]

No, that's not the answer.

Why wouldn't a video game console exist in an economic system that's not capitalist?

Off topic. PM if you want to continue that specific thread.

 

[SecretDan]

No, that's not the answer.

Why wouldn't a video game console exist in an economic system that's not capitalist?

You asked why the PS4 would not exist.

And it is because Sony would not exist.

If you are asking if a video game system could be created in a non capitalist society, the answer is it is possible.

 

[MG310]

Michaels charging 8 dollars per Copic marker is a crime but this is not the appropriate response.

 

[jackissocool]

How so?

I'm a card-carrying member of the IWW, I founded a radical anti-capitalist organization while I was in college, and I advocate every day for the dismantling of capitalism and the building of communism.

But you happily live in a capitalist country, with a capitalist games console, smartphone (probably) eat at capitalist restaurants, and shop at capitalist shops? Hardly Lenin, your just a thief.

I addressed this argument like six toms.

So you work without getting paid then?

You give 100% of your income to the government?

That's got literally nothing to do with communism.

Thing is, you're not really saying anything of worth. Everything you've said so far is lunacy that only you believe.

You're nothing but a thief.

I'm arguing that the capitalist system is unjust. That's lunacy? Holy, ideology, Zizek.

You just sound like a dedicated petty thief trying to justify their douchebaggery.

I've stolen candy from Wal-Mart half a dozen times over the past few years. Hardly dedicated. I'm a die hard fucking communist though.

 

[E92 M3]

But why does that mean I have to support capitalism? You use things invented under previous economic systems but you would never say you have to support those. Not only that, but your argument is a total ad hominem that doesn't actually address what I'm saying.

Like look at this shit. Not at all addressing what I'm saying, literally just insulting me and making shit.

Like, I sure as fuck am a communist.

You never acknowledged my post. You're posting a forum that makes money from your participation. Do you block the ads?

Or are you a selective hypocrite?

 

[SecretDan]

I mean I don't think there's anything wrong with shoplifting (I do it occasionally) cause capitalism is terrible, but it is not an effective means of protest.

Do you steal clothes, dishes, furniture or PS4s?