Have you seen the original series? It's a bit less gory. Can be pretty freaky though.
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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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Have you seen the original series? It's a bit less gory. Can be pretty freaky though.
it doesn't really compare in terms of gore and horror - well, excluding a couple of scenes in season 2.
The Atticus
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Some people see the axe on the wall but they can't resist running into it.
Yes, that's why I mentioned it.
tamaster92
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I'll have to take a look, I can deal with the scares but gore just instantly gets to me
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Emperor_Uriel
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They reminded me of the prostitutes from Inland Empire. I feel like they're more likely to be important than their bosses are.
I think you got that in the first episode when Bill Hasting's wife is talking to him in the cell
with characters we know though.
KO Traveling Hobo
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I hope it doesn't get much more soap opera-ish than this past episode, but I have a feeling there is a lot of soap opera to come.
God damn it Dougie! Get the hell out of the way!
We got a little of that when Bobby saw Laura's picture. I really liked that moment.
Wait, the weirdo in the tree getting high was Jerry Horne?! Man did David Patrick Kelly change his look to be completely unrecognizable - even from the previous revival episode it's hard to tell (then again half the time I imagine him in The Warriors, so...). Man....
I also thought it sounded like a really terrible NIN track being played (purposely bad). Has he shown up in the series yet?
Discotheque
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the moment Jerry Horne came hobbling into the scene in the premiere I was reminded of a mischievous elf. Dude looks nuts with that beard haha.
Also Cooper's affection for Sonny Jim in that one scene was pretty funny, though there was a sadness to it as well. I wonder if deep in his subconscious he realizes he replaced a man's life.
Also Cooper's affection for Sonny Jim in that one scene was pretty funny, though there was a sadness to it as well. I wonder if deep in his subconscious he realizes he replaced a man's life.
Not yet, nothing in the credits about the song either. I'm expecting him to have a song in the bar at this point.
rackham
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Well...do you understand tho?
Coop living Dougie's life isn't trying to me at all yet. Every second of it, up to him riding the elevator backwards and all his coworkers yelling and pushing him out, cracked me up. If it goes 16 episodes then yeah, I'll be pissed. But at the moment I think it totally worksthe way he's moving through the world is even kinda beautiful.
He's a near-blank slate, and because he doesn't really act or react on his own he's completely left to the devices of others. He's vulnerable. And yet most of the people he's encountered have been benevolent on the whole. The limo driver, Bill & Candy Shaker, Phil. And he clearly already feels something for Sonny Jim. None have made it their mission to help him get back to Twin Peaks or anythingbut how could they? They've done as much as a random person could do: be concerned, demonstrate kindness, and try to assist him in his disabled state. Even the less benevolent like Brett Gelman's casino supervisor and his boss (and hell, Janey-E, who does not seem at all trustworthy) haven't been outright vicious.
I find it weirdly optimistic for Twin Peaks. The arc of Dale-as-Dougie appears to be this addled man mostly encountering goodness in the world. Lynch's work has always been about darkness underneath the everyday, and while there's bad in the mix here the thrust seems to be that the world errs on the side of goodness. That'll change as whoever Dougie and Janey-E owe money too comes for them, and as the assassins catch up. Hopefully Dougie's Dale by then.
The fractured plotting in this season definitely has ties to the puzzling of shows like Lost (is Thrones really a "mystery drama"?) but I don't think Lynch and frost are sending those conventions up. They're just embodying them in an idiosyncratic waya very Twin Peaks way. For example, I don't expect this to end with more loose ends than tied knots. Already seemingly oblique scenes, like the kid and the drugged-out mom, have been shown to have a purpose in the plot. More dovetailing is sure to come. The South Dakotans are on Dougie and Janey-E's trail, the people to whom they owe money are sure to come knocking, Dale's Great Northern key is en route. I'm confident it'll all come together.
He's a near-blank slate, and because he doesn't really act or react on his own he's completely left to the devices of others. He's vulnerable. And yet most of the people he's encountered have been benevolent on the whole. The limo driver, Bill & Candy Shaker, Phil. And he clearly already feels something for Sonny Jim. None have made it their mission to help him get back to Twin Peaks or anythingbut how could they? They've done as much as a random person could do: be concerned, demonstrate kindness, and try to assist him in his disabled state. Even the less benevolent like Brett Gelman's casino supervisor and his boss (and hell, Janey-E, who does not seem at all trustworthy) haven't been outright vicious.
I find it weirdly optimistic for Twin Peaks. The arc of Dale-as-Dougie appears to be this addled man mostly encountering goodness in the world. Lynch's work has always been about darkness underneath the everyday, and while there's bad in the mix here the thrust seems to be that the world errs on the side of goodness. That'll change as whoever Dougie and Janey-E owe money too comes for them, and as the assassins catch up. Hopefully Dougie's Dale by then.
hm. I dunno. For one I wouldn't say the first two seasons parodied soap operasparody in my mind is Mel Brooks, ZAZ, David Wain & Michael Showalter. Lynch and Frost exaggerated a soap opera until it came apart at the seams, but a lot of their use of soap opera mechanics was genuine: the intense emotions, the intricate serial plotting, all the beautiful people sleeping around.
The fractured plotting in this season definitely has ties to the puzzling of shows like Lost (is Thrones really a "mystery drama"?) but I don't think Lynch and frost are sending those conventions up. They're just embodying them in an idiosyncratic waya very Twin Peaks way. For example, I don't expect this to end with more loose ends than tied knots. Already seemingly oblique scenes, like the kid and the drugged-out mom, have been shown to have a purpose in the plot. More dovetailing is sure to come. The South Dakotans are on Dougie and Janey-E's trail, the people to whom they owe money are sure to come knocking, Dale's Great Northern key is en route. I'm confident it'll all come together.
brianjones
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yeah thats what I thought too (especially since he was part of lost highway's soundtrack) but upon closer listening the vocals were more like a bad NIN cover band lol
Technically, Dougie replaced Cooper's possible life (with i dunno, Annie?) while he was in the Lodge.
BlueTsunami
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What was that car anyways? Lynch showcasing some nice ass rides
Net_Wrecker
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I thought that was all sadness actually, I just can't put my finger on where that emotion was coming from. If it's Cooper feeling for Sonny Jim for replacing his father, or feeling frustrated that he can't snap out of his fugue state to help anyone, or what. Sonny Jim was also clearly not happy in that scene.
KO Traveling Hobo
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Yeah, my impression while watching was that Coop's sadness had to do with Jim's sullen expression. I dunno what exactly Jim's problem was, though.
After MacLachlan going all in on having to pee, Lynch and Frost are welcome to keep him around as long as they want.
Looks like a charger, not sure of the exact year though.
I watched the scene again, and I would put money on it being Trent. It's gotta be.
Those songs were in the credits--the band is called Uniform
(Also I think they're good...)
Herr Schwarz
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I love the Dougie stuff!!! It's hilarious, it's all been really funny and I greatly appreciate there being comedy among all the dark shit.
That's not Dougie anymore though right, it's Agent Cooper recovering from the mind fuck he went through to get back to reality right? He's been stuck for 25 years or some shit hasn't he?
That's not Dougie anymore though right, it's Agent Cooper recovering from the mind fuck he went through to get back to reality right? He's been stuck for 25 years or some shit hasn't he?
World SkiFree
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As much as I have enjoyed Coop's Dougie, I think I may stand up and cheer if/when he suddenly transforms into Agent Cooper. I would liken it to my reaction to Superman flying away from the Fortress of Solitude after his 12 years of training in the 1978 film.
turtlesbonanza
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Bam Bam Baklava
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This Dougie thing is giving me some MGS2 fears. You keep thinking you'll get Snake back and stop having to deal with awful Raiden but it never comes.
plagiarize
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You'll definitely get Coop back. The question is does it happen in Part 18 or sooner.
Yeah, he replaced the real Dougie who was turned into a gold marble.
God I hope sooner. If this is the end of Twin Peaks I want more Coop than not Coop.
Brian_FETO
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If "Dougie" is in it for the long haul, then I hope we at least see the gradual progress of Cooper coming back into himself until the finale. This episode is really the first we've seen of any of that
Audrey finding him as he is now and using coffee to help retrain him would be kind of amazing. Would be a fun dynamic since originally he was an adult and she was a teenager, she's now an adult and he's essentially a child
Audrey finding him as he is now and using coffee to help retrain him would be kind of amazing. Would be a fun dynamic since originally he was an adult and she was a teenager, she's now an adult and he's essentially a child
KO Traveling Hobo
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My guess is that Coop won't be Coop again until he gets back to Twin Peaks.
Zoe
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I just hope we don't have to sit through a pooping scene.
KO Traveling Hobo
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I'm now subscribing to Cooper not coming back to form until maybe the halfway point of the limited series. Once Cooper's back to himself, I feel like the story is going to pick up and it'll be "PLOT PLOT PLOT PLOT PLOT" all the way to the end. So I can wait a little longer.
But MGS2 is the best in the series, so it all works out.
I think expecting a PLOT PLOT PLOT push from a Lynch production is a bridge too far.
Yeah, I suppose so. I wonder if some of the mysteries of this series will be left unresolved and finished out in the book that comes out in September
mariachi507
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I really loved that episode. While I understand that some people aren't going to be happy with the pacing and structure, I think it's definitely confirmed that Lynch is evolving the typical tv series. This really is an eighteen hour long movie, and as a result the show isn't going to have the regular peaks and valleys that tv shows normally do. It's really exciting to watch, for me anyway.
I don't want to gloat, but I did laugh like a maniacal Black Lodge resident when Bob was confirmed. Then my jaw dropped at well Lynch and Co were able to show this. I figured at best we'd get some type of digital footage of Frank Silva in a mirror somewhere taken from the old show, but the subtle shift in DoppelCoop's features were freaky as can be.
Definitely, I'm trying to imagine what it could be that brings Cooper out of it. As much as I'm loving Lynch's restraint on not relying on past nostalgia of the show, that would be the perfect opportunity to leave everyone a blubbering mess. Imagine it being Cooper hearing the name Laura or something similar. It's going to be great.
I figure it's either that or DoppelCoop confirming that Bob is still with him after the car crash/garmonbozia incident from episode 3. I'm curious to see how it's integrated going forward.
Nods head in agreement. I could watch Dougie interact with the whole world at this point.
I don't want to gloat, but I did laugh like a maniacal Black Lodge resident when Bob was confirmed. Then my jaw dropped at well Lynch and Co were able to show this. I figured at best we'd get some type of digital footage of Frank Silva in a mirror somewhere taken from the old show, but the subtle shift in DoppelCoop's features were freaky as can be.
Definitely, I'm trying to imagine what it could be that brings Cooper out of it. As much as I'm loving Lynch's restraint on not relying on past nostalgia of the show, that would be the perfect opportunity to leave everyone a blubbering mess. Imagine it being Cooper hearing the name Laura or something similar. It's going to be great.
I figure it's either that or DoppelCoop confirming that Bob is still with him after the car crash/garmonbozia incident from episode 3. I'm curious to see how it's integrated going forward.
Nods head in agreement. I could watch Dougie interact with the whole world at this point.
A little slower than I'd like. The release schedule messed with me. I thought we'd get another two hours tonight.
I bought that Johnny Jewel album like 3 weeks ago. I didn't know it was going to be in Twin Peaks. What a gorgeous song Windswept is. The credits shot was beautiful.
I hope Coop becomes himself in the next few episodes. There has to be a miniature arc where he deals with leaving the family.
I bought that Johnny Jewel album like 3 weeks ago. I didn't know it was going to be in Twin Peaks. What a gorgeous song Windswept is. The credits shot was beautiful.
I hope Coop becomes himself in the next few episodes. There has to be a miniature arc where he deals with leaving the family.
SuperStiltzkin
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So what is up with Jane-E inscribed ring inside the body? Either the body really is Major Briggs or the real Dougie Jones whose existence has been wiped and replaced with Fake Dopple Dougie who whose existence was also wiped and replaced with Coopie Jones.
RatskyWatsky
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I'm not really feeling these long, drawn out Dougie scenes. We need Old Coop back asap.
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