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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again

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ActWan

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Well yeah, that was obviously the intent. But there was one guy in the seat and two outside the care, but then when it blows up there is no one in the front seat and two bodies on the ground in an instant.

It was just hilariously bad and it was funny for the guy in the front seat to apparently just slump to the ground after an explosion from behind him.

Oh, I didn't even notice the third guy standing there lol. Pretty awkward indeed.
 
Do we think Becky's dad is Bobby, or someone we haven't met yet? I think Shelly's reaction to seeing Balthazar Getty at the bar makes him seem less like her husband/Becky's father, and more like a fling.
 
Do we think Becky's dad is Bobby, or someone we haven't met yet? I think Shelly's reaction to seeing Balthazar Getty at the bar makes him seem less like her husband/Becky's father, and more like a fling.

Last name wasn't Brigg's, not sure what that means. Don't remember Shelly's last name but I think Becky was a Beckett or something along those lines in credits.
 

PolishQ

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Last name wasn't Brigg's, not sure what that means. Don't remember Shelly's last name but I think Becky was a Beckett or something along those lines in credits.

Becky's last name is Burnett, same last name as her apparent husband (not boyfriend) Steven Burnett. So that doesn't tell us anything about her parentage.
 

BorkBork

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Coop living Dougie's life isn't trying to me at all yet. Every second of it, up to him riding the elevator backwards and all his coworkers yelling and pushing him out, cracked me up. If it goes 16 episodes then yeah, I'll be pissed. But at the moment I think it totally works—the way he's moving through the world is even kinda beautiful.

He's a near-blank slate, and because he doesn't really act or react on his own he's completely left to the devices of others. He's vulnerable. And yet most of the people he's encountered have been benevolent on the whole. The limo driver, Bill & Candy Shaker, Phil. And he clearly already feels something for Sonny Jim. None have made it their mission to help him get back to Twin Peaks or anything—but how could they? They've done as much as a random person could do: be concerned, demonstrate kindness, and try to assist him in his disabled state. Even the less benevolent like Brett Gelman's casino supervisor and his boss (and hell, Janey-E, who does not seem at all trustworthy) haven't been outright vicious.

I find it weirdly optimistic for Twin Peaks. The arc of Dale-as-Dougie appears to be this addled man mostly encountering goodness in the world. Lynch's work has always been about darkness underneath the everyday, and while there's bad in the mix here the thrust seems to be that the world errs on the side of goodness. That'll change as whoever Dougie and Janey-E owe money too comes for them, and as the assassins catch up. Hopefully Dougie's Dale by then.

I like this take.
 

PolishQ

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There's a page for the other soundtrack on Amazon now, but not yet available for pre-order: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072QDVWLZ/?tag=neogaf0e-20

On Facebook they're saying it features "Solo Waltz," "Laura Palmer's Theme," "Dark Moon Woods," and "The Red Room". I'm guessing "Dark Moon Woods" is a typo and should be "Dark Mood Woods," which appeared in Part 2. So far these are all compositions from the original series. Is this going to be a 2-disc "greatest hits" of the original soundtrack? Hoping at least one disc is new stuff from Angelo.

Edit: Actually, "Solo Waltz" may be a new composition.

Dang it, "Solo Waltz" is a track from the original soundtrack, originally titled "Solo Percussion 2 (Grady's Waltz)".
 

Joqu

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Speaking of Jacoby, I have a very important question I need this season to answer: does he believe in his own conspiracies or is it just a scam? I've always considered him an intelligent person, though he is of course very eccentric and somewhat of a creep. What happened, doctor?

I believe Secret History states he lost his license, so is it a money thing? I wonder how long it has been since he last got to go to Hawaii.
 

charpunk

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Put me in the Cooper as Dougie is awesome crowd. Though I hope Cooper becomes Cooper again soon. A lot of the reason why I loved the original series was Cooper's outlook on things.
 

Not Spaceghost

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The dougie stuff started off funny as hell but after episode 5 I just got sick of it. I feel like I could be doing something else instead whenever his scenes pop up probably because they all have an overwhelming feeling of "yeah yeah I get it can we move along already?".
 

EGM1966

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Probably already pointed out but actress is Candy Clark of American Graffiti fame. She is well versed in quirk through that role alone.
Yah and Man Who Fell To Earth and Blue Thunder to name a few others.

Was odd to recognise her as in my mind she looks as she did back then.
 

PolishQ

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New theory: Dougie Jones was manufactured from Agent Chet Desmond, who was last seen reaching for the Owl Cave ring and whose character was invented in the first place as a replacement for Agent Cooper. Plus he already looked a bit like Cooper so it would have made the manufacturing process a little easier.
 
The Cooper scenes have been wonderful for me. It's the essence of his character. Hopeful, helpful, trusting, honest, and full of wonder. He's just not speaking much. I expect he'll be slightly more autonomous and a smidgen more talkative by the end of the next Part. I think by Part 8 he will be very conscious of his actions and making his way back to Twin Peaks. I don't expect him to be very vocal though.
 
Oh shit, just realized that E3 conferences are happening around Twin Peaks this week. Anybody know how long this week's episode is? I try to catch all the big conferences live, and while I don't really care about Bethesda, it does start minutes after Twin Peaks...
 

Xrenity

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Anyone else had to laugh at the first car driving away, going over the speed bump, and then with the second car it cuts away right before it would go over?
 

robotrock

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Oh shit, just realized that E3 conferences are happening around Twin Peaks this week. Anybody know how long this week's episode is? I try to catch all the big conferences live, and while I don't really care about Bethesda, it does start minutes after Twin Peaks...

Bethesda got changed to 12:00am EST. So it'll start a couple hours after Twin Peaks ends.
 

Mariolee

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Can anyone explain what the hell is going on with Major Briggs? I skipped watching the latter half of Season 2 after they wrapped up Laura Palmer's murder, but I did read summaries and watch recaps (holy smokes am I glad I skipped this). I did watch parts of the Season 2 finale as well. Did I miss something big with Briggs?

Apparently Bobby says he died in a fire that we're assuming Mr. C started, so I'm guessing that wasn't a part of Season 2. Now there's theories that there are duplicates of Major Briggs showing up in Season 3? Technically they've found 16 cases of fingerprints so it doesn't have to be duplicates, but still.

I'm very confused.
 

Real Hero

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Can anyone explain what the hell is going on with Major Briggs? I skipped watching the latter half of Season 2 after they wrapped up Laura Palmer's murder, but I did read summaries and watch recaps (holy smokes am I glad I skipped this). I did watch parts of the Season 2 finale as well. Did I miss something big with Briggs?

Apparently Bobby says he died in a fire that we're assuming Mr. C started, so I'm guessing that wasn't a part of Season 2. Now there's theories that there are duplicates of Major Briggs showing up in Season 3? Technically they've found 16 cases of fingerprints so it doesn't have to be duplicates, but still.

I'm very confused.

The book implies
bad coop kills him
 

big ander

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Can anyone explain what the hell is going on with Major Briggs? I skipped watching the latter half of Season 2 after they wrapped up Laura Palmer's murder, but I did read summaries and watch recaps (holy smokes am I glad I skipped this). I did watch parts of the Season 2 finale as well. Did I miss something big with Briggs?

Apparently Bobby says he died in a fire that we're assuming Mr. C started, so I'm guessing that wasn't a part of Season 2. Now there's theories that there are duplicates of Major Briggs showing up in Season 3? Technically they've found 16 cases of fingerprints so it doesn't have to be duplicates, but still.

I'm very confused.
beyond the implication that mr. c killed him we're just as in the dark as you--though you also did miss a bunch of great Major Briggs moments in season 2. honestly I remain blown away that people still skip around this show, only doing yourself a disservice.
 

PolishQ

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Can anyone explain what the hell is going on with Major Briggs? I skipped watching the latter half of Season 2 after they wrapped up Laura Palmer's murder, but I did read summaries and watch recaps (holy smokes am I glad I skipped this). I did watch parts of the Season 2 finale as well. Did I miss something big with Briggs?

Apparently Bobby says he died in a fire that we're assuming Mr. C started, so I'm guessing that wasn't a part of Season 2. Now there's theories that there are duplicates of Major Briggs showing up in Season 3? Technically they've found 16 cases of fingerprints so it doesn't have to be duplicates, but still.

I'm very confused.

Here's what we know (according to the Secret History book and the first 5 parts of S3):

- Evil Cooper met with Briggs shortly after the S2 finale.
- Briggs could tell something was massively wrong with Cooper
- Briggs supposedly died in a fire the next day
- Briggs' head is now floating in the space basement
- The headless body in Ruth Davenport's apartment has Briggs' fingerprints
- The Pentagon has recorded matches against Briggs' fingerprints 16 times over the past 25 years, but none of the prior hits amounted to anything. I take this to mean that the body was not present, but his prints were found on an object. Or the body was present but then disappeared before the Pentagon could investigate it.
 
I can't decide if it's somewhat funny or downright depressing that most of the returning characters have the exact same job that they did 25 years ago.
 

PolishQ

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I can't decide if it's somewhat funny or downright depressing that most of the returning characters have the exact same job that they did 25 years ago.

Well, it's a mix.

Same job: Ben Horne, Shelly, Norma, Heidi, Andy, Lucy

Promotion: Gordon Cole, Albert (I'm assuming), Denise, Hawk

New job: Bobby Briggs, Jerry Horne, Jacoby, Mike Nelson
 

Flipyap

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- Briggs' head is now floating in the space basement
- The Pentagon has recorded matches against Briggs' fingerprints 16 times over the past 25 years, but none of the prior hits amounted to anything. I take this to mean that the body was not present, but his prints were found on an object. Or the body was present but then disappeared before the Pentagon could investigate it.
- I just love the fact that "the space basement" is now a location in the world of Twin Peaks, and that it's the most literal description of that place.
- I dunno, I think it had to be bigger than just his prints. They don't make even the tiniest deal out of Briggs's body being found (presumably for the second time, if they've confirmed that he died in the fire) and Colonel Ghostbuster immediately assumes that it's going to be a fake. I'd expect a bigger reaction if they've finally found a body with matching fingerprints after a 25-year-long wild goose chase.
 

PolishQ

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- I dunno, I think it had to be bigger than just his prints. They don't make even the tiniest deal out of Briggs's body being found (presumably for the second time, if they've confirmed that he died in the fire) and Colonel Ghostbuster immediately assumes that it's going to be a fake. I'd expect a bigger reaction if they've finally found a body with matching fingerprints after a 25-year-long wild goose chase.

To be fair, they don't know that there's a body yet. They just know that someone ran his prints through the matching software.
 
Well, it's a mix.

Same job: Ben Horne, Shelly, Norma, Heidi, Andy, Lucy

Promotion: Gordon Cole, Albert (I'm assuming), Denise, Hawk

New job: Bobby Briggs, Jerry Horne, Jacoby, Mike Nelson

I guess I was generalizing a bit when I said the same job, as I was also thinking of Gordon, Albert and Hawk.

Also, Sheriff Truman may be sick, but he's still the Sheriff.
 

Flipyap

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To be fair, they don't know that there's a body yet. They just know that someone ran his prints through the matching software.
Oh, that could work. I'd expect them to have access to that kind of information, but I guess this scene could have happened right when the morgue comedian ran the search.
 
Oh, that could work. I'd expect them to have access to that kind of information, but I guess this scene could have happened right when the morgue comedian ran the search.

I'm sort of hoping multiple Brigg's corpses have been popping up through the years. I'm not sure why.

That they aren't surprised someone ran his prints, when they know he's dead... that 'again?' reaction... but then they don't expect this to amount to anything... and a dead body missing a head kind of amounts to a lot.

I love being in the middle of the series with the rest of the world and having all this stuff to speculate about, rather than just having a fixed canon to debate. I'm relishing it while it lasts.
 

ActWan

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Damn, I just can't stop watching the episode 5 credits scene.
The song is so amazing, and combined with the footage of Dougie-Coop gazing at the statue it creates something truly beautiful. Makes me wanna cry, honestly.
 
Damn, I just can't stop watching the episode 5 credits scene.
The song is so amazing, and combined with the footage of Dougie-Coop gazing at the statue it creates something truly beautiful. Makes me wanna cry, honestly.

I think the ending of episode 5 was pretty sad. Lynch shows us all the comedy stuff during this episode but right at the end...bam...tragic.
 

Flipyap

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I'm sort of hoping multiple Brigg's corpses have been popping up through the years. I'm not sure why.

That they aren't surprised someone ran his prints, when they know he's dead... that 'again?' reaction... but then they don't expect this to amount to anything... and a dead body missing a head kind of amounts to a lot.

I love being in the middle of the series with the rest of the world and having all this stuff to speculate about, rather than just having a fixed canon to debate. I'm relishing it while it lasts.
Fake Briggsies sound more interesting than Doop storing the real Garland's body in a supernatural fridge. If they introduce the idea of manufactured corpses, they might as well go all out with it.
Unless it's Briggs who faked his own death in the fire... either way, it's gonna be fun. I'm ready for just about anything except for being shown a shitty CG gore doodle as an answer to "how's Annie?"
 
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