Shelly/Madgen Amick is still hot as hell. I can understand why should want more. Bobby is a cop now, not quite ''badass'' anymore.
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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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Shelly/Madgen Amick is still hot as hell. I can understand why should want more. Bobby is a cop now, not quite ''badass'' anymore.
Loved that he remembered everything underneath. Dale coming out at 3 would have failed in his mission to stop Mr. C and been killed a dozen times over. Instead this bumbling fool emerges and manages to reknit a broken family, expose corruption in the hearts of men, all the while spreading joy and wealth to all those around him.
That's how I like to see it
Right on
CelticKnight
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I've been catching up on this after dropping off after episode 8 (not through choice, just been busy) and I must say it's so much better if you "binge" watch the show rather than get drip fed one a week. You notice more, get references, it just flows better... it really is a long ass film just cut up.
And while I'm here I just want to say Albert is a legend in this season. Such a shame about Miguel Ferrer. RIP, fella.
And while I'm here I just want to say Albert is a legend in this season. Such a shame about Miguel Ferrer. RIP, fella.
Agreed. Your comment made my look him up to lean more about him and his unfortunate death.
Also found out he was George Clooney's cousin.
Was not aware.
Loved him all season, glad he made it through this.
What did happen after that?
31GhostsIV
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I'm on board with this. It explains Richard fading in and out of existence. Mr C created an Audrey tulpa, they had a child.
Wondering where Linda fits in to this though... if Diane is Naido, could Linda be OG Audrey, in a wheelchair after the bomb but with a different appearance because the tulpa 'stole' it?
The coordinates lead to the Sheriff Station. We'll get much more Bobby before the end, I presume.
The tulpa thing has me thinking. Who else is contender for 'tulpa' status? Neither Truman, as they are 'true men' according to Margaret. Steven's mental state could be the side effect of being a tulpa. The drunk in the cell.. well the jury is out on him. He seems closer to the Woodsman who 'jump started' the Jumping Man last episode.
Hmm...
If anything is going to be a 'big twist' that ties all of these narrative threads together, it's the tulpa concept.
|OT2| Hello-o-o-o, we are the FBI !
Edit: Nah, just go with all the "Call for help"-stuff. It's da best.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Well, the fucked-up dude is the only one there repeating everything like brain-scrambled Cooper...
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
i bet the fucked up dude is a nobody that never gets explained
mariachi507
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I just finished another watch of the original series. I had planned, a couple of weeks back, to hold off on all the remaining episodes until the night the finale sites so I could get another four brand new hours of Twin Peaks like I did on the season premiere. In the meantime I've been watching a set number of episodes of the original series to lead up to the finale of season 3. Everything has gone to plan except the fact that I have no will power and couldn't hold off on watching the new episodes the past two weeks. Oh well, it's still going to be pretty sweet to watch the series entirely finishing off with my first viewing of the season 3 finale.
I have to say that the painful stretch in season 2 was much easier to get through this time knowing what's ahead and what it all leads to. Tomorrow night is Fire Walk With Me then onto the Missing Pieces and Dougie.
It's also making the wait for Sunday much more bearable. I don't know what I'm going to do when it's all over though.
I have to say that the painful stretch in season 2 was much easier to get through this time knowing what's ahead and what it all leads to. Tomorrow night is Fire Walk With Me then onto the Missing Pieces and Dougie.
It's also making the wait for Sunday much more bearable. I don't know what I'm going to do when it's all over though.
Of all the options offered, this is the stand-out, in my opinion. Perfectly bittersweet for the finale.
blame space
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I FINALLY GOT A HULU PW
WHICH ONE? It could make a difference. I'm crying. see you guys on the other side.
WHICH ONE? It could make a difference. I'm crying. see you guys on the other side.
blame space
Banned
[intense otherworldly whooshing]
31GhostsIV
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|OT2| Goodbye, Son
|OT2| Bad Binoculars!
|OT2| THERE THEY ARE ALBERT. FACES OF STONE.
|OT2| Bad Binoculars!
|OT2| THERE THEY ARE ALBERT. FACES OF STONE.
plagiarize
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Why do Philip Gerard and MIKE look the same but Bob and Leland look different?
Why is the arm a tree now?
I don't think it's a given that Naido cannot be Diane because they look different.
not that i'm ruling anything out, but why would her tulpa be more recognizable than her "real" self
BenjaminBirdie
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Well, why did Jeffries transform from David Bowie into a giant tea kettle? If Coop's Doppelganger left Diane at the convenience store after raping her, then her looking like Naido could just be the result of whatever weird mindfuck journey she had to undergo while in the convenience store and ultimately ending up in that place we see in ep. 3.
Like I said before, I have a suspicion that Cooper had his meeting with the Fireman (seen in Part 1) immediately before he woke up in the hospital. That's what the ringing sound was.
Dusk Golem
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I'm curious if we'll learn more about the relationship between Diane, Naido, Janey-E, the American Girl, and Mother. They're all connected in a weird way and I'm not really 100% sure right now how exactly,
So we know the Diane we've come to know is a manufactured being like Dougie. Unlike Dougie, Tulpa/Diane was created to replace a person who actually existed (as Cooper and the rest of the FBI know a Diane back in the original series, but Dougie seems to have only come into existence in 1996). We even know her purpose, as a sort of eyes, ears, and weapon for Mr. C within the FBI.
How Diane is exactly related to Janey-E is up in the air now that we know the Diane we knew was a manufactured being, and to be honest I'm starting to think Janey-E can't be a real person. Like, Janey-E's husband is a manufactured being, and her sister in law is a manufactured being. It can't be coincidence she has two manufactured beings close to her, so I'm wondering how that plays out.
Naido does seem to be the real Diane based off of what Tulpa said right before disappearing, there's really no other being that would make sense to be in the Sheriff's Department that would be Diane besides Naido, but if it is Naido this raises even more questions. Naido doesn't even talk like a human, is blind, is Asian, and honestly doesn't even look like the Diane we knew that much, so why would people who knew the old Diane think Tulpa looks like Diane is a mystery to me. Something I can think of is maybe by 'the real me', she didn't mean Diane but some entity the 'seed' came from? I don't quite know if I buy that yet, though.
Then what's Naido's relationship to 'The American Girl'? She replaces Naido in the similar but different room, and obviously the American Girl looks like and is played by the same actress who played Ronette Pulaski in the original series. What's her relationship to all of this, if there is any? She seems to replace Naido or is in the same position as Naido, and she looks like a character we know from the original series, so if Naido IS Diane, what does that mean for the Ronnette look-alike girl?
And of course, 'Mother'. Who is not 100% confirmed to be but is pretty close to being certain is the 'Experiment' character. Her role in the series is still mysterious, despite seeming pretty important. Visual similarities can be made between her and what the manufactured people turn into, as well as many other things in this series. Like Naido resembles her a bit as does the doppelganger of the Arm. This might be because she gives birth to a lot of things, as the two things we know she gave birth to was BOB and the Frog-Moth (which may be the Jumping Man, if mine and some other's theories hold up). Notably Naido seems distressed by 'Mother', and the Ronette looking girl calls it Mother, so it might really just be the mother of all beings in the Lodge, but that's more theorizing than anything.
I doubt all of this will be explained, but at least part of it as I doubt Naido will be left out in the final two parts at least.
So we know the Diane we've come to know is a manufactured being like Dougie. Unlike Dougie, Tulpa/Diane was created to replace a person who actually existed (as Cooper and the rest of the FBI know a Diane back in the original series, but Dougie seems to have only come into existence in 1996). We even know her purpose, as a sort of eyes, ears, and weapon for Mr. C within the FBI.
How Diane is exactly related to Janey-E is up in the air now that we know the Diane we knew was a manufactured being, and to be honest I'm starting to think Janey-E can't be a real person. Like, Janey-E's husband is a manufactured being, and her sister in law is a manufactured being. It can't be coincidence she has two manufactured beings close to her, so I'm wondering how that plays out.
Naido does seem to be the real Diane based off of what Tulpa said right before disappearing, there's really no other being that would make sense to be in the Sheriff's Department that would be Diane besides Naido, but if it is Naido this raises even more questions. Naido doesn't even talk like a human, is blind, is Asian, and honestly doesn't even look like the Diane we knew that much, so why would people who knew the old Diane think Tulpa looks like Diane is a mystery to me. Something I can think of is maybe by 'the real me', she didn't mean Diane but some entity the 'seed' came from? I don't quite know if I buy that yet, though.
Then what's Naido's relationship to 'The American Girl'? She replaces Naido in the similar but different room, and obviously the American Girl looks like and is played by the same actress who played Ronette Pulaski in the original series. What's her relationship to all of this, if there is any? She seems to replace Naido or is in the same position as Naido, and she looks like a character we know from the original series, so if Naido IS Diane, what does that mean for the Ronnette look-alike girl?
And of course, 'Mother'. Who is not 100% confirmed to be but is pretty close to being certain is the 'Experiment' character. Her role in the series is still mysterious, despite seeming pretty important. Visual similarities can be made between her and what the manufactured people turn into, as well as many other things in this series. Like Naido resembles her a bit as does the doppelganger of the Arm. This might be because she gives birth to a lot of things, as the two things we know she gave birth to was BOB and the Frog-Moth (which may be the Jumping Man, if mine and some other's theories hold up). Notably Naido seems distressed by 'Mother', and the Ronette looking girl calls it Mother, so it might really just be the mother of all beings in the Lodge, but that's more theorizing than anything.
I doubt all of this will be explained, but at least part of it as I doubt Naido will be left out in the final two parts at least.
Chase Lebowski
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|OT2| My tulpa sense is tingling
plagiarize
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Naido will definitely be in the final two Parts. Between the part of Andy's vision that we haven't seen yet, Coop and the vegas crew heading to the sheriff's office, Diane's comment, and Freddie Sykes being maneuvered by fate into the same jail, it's clearly a place where many stories are coming together.
I'm not sure about a lot of things being resolved, like whatever was going on with Sarah Palmer, but the Naido storyline (and the Cooper storyline, and the Freddie Sykes storyline) are definitely going to be addressed.
Joe Shlabotnik
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To be fair, the answer to some of these questions is "because the actor is dead".
But yes, I don't think we've completely sussed out tulpa logic yet.
There's some kind of thread there with tulpa Diane trying to describe evil Cooper's "smile"
KO Traveling Hobo
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I assumed that his face morphed into Bob's, like it did in the jail.
I guess one of the big things that makes me resistant to the idea of Naido = real Diane is, doesn't that create a very, pointlessly roundabout journey for Coop's Doppelganger? Because if taking Diane to the convenience store is the first step in her journey of becoming Naido, and where he creates Diane's doppelganger, then doesn't mean his story is just using Diane's doppelganger to find the location of the real Diane who he threw into the interdimensional wringer in the first place?
Don Draper's Hat
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Who the fuck is Naido?
PetriP-TNT
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The blind woman who is currently in the sheriff departments holding cell
The blind woman
Don Draper's Hat
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Probably true in future retrospect, but considering its minimal throwaway use 12 odd episodes ago "Hell-ooo-ooo" is one equally that I think will be widely remembered
Feel the Swift
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Just bought the Twin Peaks featured music vinyl. I love this show.
Man, catching up on this thread, a lot of people really think Cooper isn't gonna survive the series/end up trapped in one of the Lodges again?
I don't think we'll get a full on Earn Your Happy Ending, but my bet is Cooper will end up in a better place by the end of the series.
Sidenote: Is there a show/film/whatever that triumphantly brings a character back, only to kill them off shortly afterwards? I'm drawing blanks here.
I don't think we'll get a full on Earn Your Happy Ending, but my bet is Cooper will end up in a better place by the end of the series.
Sidenote: Is there a show/film/whatever that triumphantly brings a character back, only to kill them off shortly afterwards? I'm drawing blanks here.
HashtagLapsed
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One of my best friends watched this weeks episode today. She called me afterwards and we spoke for nearly two hours about it. Gonna get together next week to watch the last two episodes together.
If the emotional payoff and impact of this week was anything to go by I am honestly scared, in a good way, of how much next weeks episodes will effect me. It is almost unbelievable that it has already come and is nearly gone.
What an incredible ride Twin Peaks as a whole has been.
If the emotional payoff and impact of this week was anything to go by I am honestly scared, in a good way, of how much next weeks episodes will effect me. It is almost unbelievable that it has already come and is nearly gone.
What an incredible ride Twin Peaks as a whole has been.
Ragnarsson
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I have been rewatching this season with my boyfriend, and knowing what happens later puts everything into perspective in amazing, fun ways. This season is truly masterful in its approach to storytelling. I haven't been this surprised by a series in forever - the way that certain plots are connected, and how they are related to each other, and the payoffs to all those things that were slowly built-up. For instance, the golden shovels. If you had told me they would eventually be the catalyst to Norma and Ed's engagement, I wouldn't have believed you. Yet, it somehow made perfect sense. Or Dougie's journey. It seemed to take a lot of time, and I know we were all anticipating Cooper's true return to form, but his journey - being constantly helped by others, being surrounded by goodness and kindness and more than just a little patience, and now those good people like the Mitchums and Janey-E helping him return to Twin Peaks... That's some genuinely great storytelling. It took time because it needed to take time. And, surprisingly, I already miss Dougie. Also, Audrey Horne's return. It felt weird at first - despite everything, all the other returning characters felt like the original performaces. Audrey didn't. And in this episode, you had the confirmation - Audrey didn't feel right because apparently she really wasn't right. She looked like our favorite character, but her behavior was purposefully off. That's great TV right there.
I can't wait to see how things are resolved in the final two episodes. Naido/Diane (another connection which now makes total sense - remember how Naido tried to desperately help Cooper, and how she got calmer when she touched Cooper's face?), Sarah Palmer, Mr. C and Cooper's inevitable confrontation, Audrey's situation, these were all things that were built up from the very beginning of the season and I am eager to see how they all tie together and where this all will take us.
I can't wait to see how things are resolved in the final two episodes. Naido/Diane (another connection which now makes total sense - remember how Naido tried to desperately help Cooper, and how she got calmer when she touched Cooper's face?), Sarah Palmer, Mr. C and Cooper's inevitable confrontation, Audrey's situation, these were all things that were built up from the very beginning of the season and I am eager to see how they all tie together and where this all will take us.
ElectricBlanketFire
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My theory is she's not in any supernatural place but rather a real medical/mental facility.
Logically (lulz) she would have suffered some major damage surviving the bank explosion.
Vyse The Legend
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any thoughts on why the whole " ALL" was so troubling to Diane? She had a very strong emotional response to the text. I'm thinking if she was just an evil doppleganger like Mr. C she wouldn't have any issue with shooting the FBI crew. She also couldn't have possibly thought she could out duel 3 FBI agents with a little pistol right?
didn't she say something like, "I hope this works..." right before entering the hotel room?
ALL" was so troubling to Diane? She had a very strong emotional response to the text. I'm thinking if she was just an evil doppleganger like Mr. C she wouldn't have any issue with shooting the FBI crew. She also couldn't have possibly thought she could out duel 3 FBI agents with a little pistol right?didn't she say something like, "I hope this works..." right before entering the hotel room?
any thoughts on why the whole "
didn't she say something like, "I hope this works..." right before entering the hotel room?
It might have been a sleeper-cell code word that would trigger her to try to kill Gordon and Albert. And the consequence of activating that kind of programming meant (inadvertently?) awakening Diane to the fact that she isn't real.
BenjaminBirdie
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Yeah that was a little perplexing because it sounded like a "I'm going to turn the tables" kind of thing.
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