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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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That's what I think, most people won't notice it, a % of the ones that will won't think much about it, a smaller % will see it and think of Bob.
This is partially a myth. The shot of Bob hiding behind the bed was already filmed when the mirror goof happened.
Lynch originally got the idea to film that when he heard someone tell Frank Silva "dont lock yourself in Lauras room."
VistraNorrez
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It's the very end of the pilot, but Lynch had already decided to include Silva in the show. Silva was a set decorator and was moving things around in Laura's room when someone warned him about trapping himself in there and it gave Lynch the idea to shoot Silva crouching down at the end of Laura's bed. The happy accident of Frank being in the mirror happened later. And of course it pulled everything together for Lynch.
DodgyGeezerFella
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Um, was the MP5 magazine put in backwards ?
The Main Event
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Finally managed to watch the premiere last night before going to bed.
Holy shit, this is my favorite thing ever.
Holy shit, this is my favorite thing ever.
BlueTsunami
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There you go.
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The first four episodes were really good. I like how different and straightforward the show now is and still feels like the old series.
My expression during the watching.
You know, if there is one thing I do prefer from the older show over this one is simply its look. There is a warmness to the old series missing from here...The new version is much more like FWWM....colder...
This is really prevalent in the new scenes of the black lodge...it's (IMHO) simply too bright.
A lot of it just just color temperature and background. Not very much Great Northern lodge yet
Plus the color correction is probably much better now, and HD helps even more. It's not going to have those blown out yellow and reds anymore.
DodgyGeezerFella
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The first four episodes were really good. I like how different and straightforward the show now is and still feels like the old series.
My expression during the watching.
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I'd say it's too dark, really -- or maybe too flat. It's lacking the illumination coming through the curtains that the older versions had. But maybe that's by design to show that the Lodge has changed ... after all, when you see the curtains pulled back in Part 2 there's only endless darkness beyond.
VistraNorrez
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They didn't plan the show out. I don't think they had a concrete idea of who the killer even was at the start. I believe it's been said that Bob was going to be the actual killer, no Leland involved. The whole Lodge mythology evolved as the show went along. The Red Room came from a moment of inspiration as Lynch was trying to figure out how to make the pilot into a movie for the European market. It was just Cooper's dream at first.
Sorcerer
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They aged him in the original show if I recall correctly, (white hair) he probably looks good in comparison to that aging they did on him 25 years ago.
The first four episodes were really good. I like how different and straightforward the show now is and still feels like the old series.
My expression during the watching.
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That's basically how Lost was made.
Sorcerer
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Lynch and Frost were never going to reveal the killer at all. The mystery was never going to be solved. They were forced to and lost interest afterwards.
Just read that in my Sunday paper.
VistraNorrez
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It's how most long form stories are told. You can have as much outline as you want, the story is going to change. Inspiration and circumstance play a big part no matter what the art is.
Haha.
Well Lost was great and TP is great so i'm not complaining.
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My understanding is that Frost and Lynch knew it was Leland (not sure about the Bob business) from very early on, but didn't have the specifics and weren't intending to reveal it, as many say.
They certainly told Jennifer Lynch who the killer was before she wrote the Secret Diary, which was published right before season 2 started airing.
I'm not sure if it was published before they shot Episode 14, but obviously Jennifer was working on the book before then, and as she tells the story, they told her who the killer was before she started writing.
The red room was refashioned into being Cooper's dream so it could be incorporated into the show, but it was originally was a literal representation of what happens to Cooper 25 years later, as a 'what the fuck' ending should the pilot not be picked up to series or be released theatrically in Europe.
It's said that Frost and Lynch knew Leland was the killer fairly early into the process of making the series.
It's said that Frost and Lynch knew Leland was the killer fairly early into the process of making the series.
No, they didn't plan for Bob at all and knew from the beginning it was Leland. The whole Bob idea came around completely by accident when David Lynch saw his set dresser crouching behind the bed in Laura Palmer's room. He liked the visual so much that he decided to incorporate him into the series as an actor and Bob was born.
RareFantasy64
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I don't have a way of watching the new series yet but I have a question. Not sure if enough has been revealed to answer it properly
Also, so far is there a lot of nudity or just shots of people having sex with out showing too much skin?
Is the bad cooper literally the doppelganger we see chasing the real Cooper in the black lodge from the season 2 finale (leaving regular Cooper somewhere else, probably the black lodge)? Or is the bad Cooper, regular Cooper's body with Bob controlling it?
Also, so far is there a lot of nudity or just shots of people having sex with out showing too much skin?
The suggestion is that it is the actual doppelganger.
There is nudity (although not a lot) which includes nipples and bums.
It's not odd if you only watch episodes on their TV air date.
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Right. Well, there are *three* things we know of that happened by accident which helped make Bob happen.
You've mentioned the first. The second is accidentally catching Frank Silva in the mirror when filming Sarah screaming.
The third isn't as well known. When Phoebe Augustine was filming the scene of Ronnette staggering back across the border, she had a private word with David and asked if he would dismiss Frank Silva from the set, as he was freaking her out (not intentionally).
I'm not sure that David has ever told that story, but Phoebe has.
RareFantasy64
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Thank you!
Finale Fireworker
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As somebody who only ever watched Twin Peaks in binge marathons on Netflix, having to wait for more episodes is excruciating. This is not how I should have to live. They should have released them all. I understand what they're doing (getting people to talk in between episodes), but there ultimately isn't enough to talk about without being able to watch more episodes quickly for more insight.
Waiting until June 2nd for new episodes... This is cruel. Wrong. I'm dying.
Waiting until June 2nd for new episodes... This is cruel. Wrong. I'm dying.
As someone who waited for 25+ years for a new episode let me just say
that you make me sick and I hope you die!!!
Finale Fireworker
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As someone who waited for 25+ years for a new episode let me just sayI'm so sorry you have to wait! May I bring you a tea or perhaps a cocoa to alleviate the pain?that you make me sick and I hope you die!!!
pls do not mock my garmonbozia (pain and sorrow)
Given how utterly bizarre Leland acts through all of season 1, I'd be pretty surprised if Lynch and Frost didn't know from day one that he would be the killer.
No, they knew how LOST was going to end, from the start. They of course didn't know how they were going to get there.
RE: Lynch on how Bob was born https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ihzXsNJG1U
Fun fact, Ray Wise didn't know his character was the killer until they shot the reveal episode.
Also fun fact, Jack Nance didn't know the Tojamura character was Piper Laurie in makeup until he read the script for that episode. He had several scenes with her thinking she was just an asian male actor.
CrichtonKicks
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This is just crazy to me. It looks totally obvious.
Chuckie
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Lol. Seriously.
Wasn't that limited to JJ Abrams coming up with a vague idea for the final shot? That's not what I'd call knowing how a story is going to end.
HEL-oOOOOOOoooOOO
The perfect Dark
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HelloooooooooooOOOOOO
Subterranean
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Anyone buy any of the Twin Peaks merchandise from Showtime? How is the quality of the apparel? Thinking of picking up the beanie and black lodge coasters.
At first I was like "Oh god , this is so drawn out and stupid" but it's sooo drawn out that it loops back in to being great and I was laughing so much.
The perfect Dark
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Sorry I can't answer this but I have a similar question: Can you buy Twin Peaks merchandise in germany or europe?
Mister Jackpots.
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Good find.
I've never heard David confirm or deny Phoebe's account of being freaked about by a random crew member (that turned out to be Frank) and asking David if they needed to be there while they filmed her crossing the railbridge. Hopefully someone asks him about it sometime.
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