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Twitter Death Watch |OT| How long until the bird dies?

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EliteSmurf

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All part of Elons masterplan guys !!!!
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LegendOfKage

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Maiden Voyage said:
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While it's funny to think about things like this happening, and I'm sure the situation is a genuine mess, it's probably also best to realize that no one is actually "fired" at Twitter. They're just being paid not to work for the next three months, which is not a bad deal at all. However, they're still employed by the company, and likely still have to help if it's asked of them.

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Just to clarify, that is a joke and not actually a former employee.
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Hard to tell at this point. In fact, how is that remotely apparent given the general "the sky is falling" claims being made about Twitter right now?
 
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Maiden Voyage

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www.theverge.com

Hundreds of employees opt out of Elon Musk’s ‘extremely hardcore’ Twitter

“It will be extremely hard for Twitter to recover from here”
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Hundreds of employees say no to being part of Elon Musk’s ‘extremely hardcore’ Twitter​

Musk gave Twitter staff a deadline to say if they are staying for his cultural reset of the company. And right on deadline, the farewell emojis started pouring into Twitter’s Slack.​


Hundreds of Twitter’s remaining employees have resigned ahead of Elon Musk’s “extremely hardcore” cultural reset of the company, according to internal Slack messages seen by The Verge and employee tweets.
The fresh purge of Twitter’s ranks comes after Musk recently fired dozens of employees who criticized or mocked him in tweets and internal messages. Musk then set a deadline of 5PM ET on Thursday for all employees to respond “yes” on a Google form if they want to stay for what he is calling “Twitter 2.0;” otherwise, today would be their final day of work and they would receive a severance package. After the deadline hit, hundreds of employees quickly started posting farewell messages and salute emojis in Twitter’s Slack, announcing that they had said no to Musk’s ultimatum.
“I’m not pressing the button,” one departing employee posted in Slack. “My watch ends with Twitter 1.0. I do not wish to be part of Twitter 2.0.”
“My watch ends with Twitter 1.0. I do not wish to be part of Twitter 2.0.”
Twitter had roughly 2,900 remaining employees before the deadline Thursday, thanks to Musk unceremoniously laying off about half of the 7,500-person workforce when he took over and the resignations that followed. Remaining and departing Twitter employees told The Verge that, given the scale of the resignations this week, they expect the platform to start breaking soon. One said that they’ve watched “legendary engineers” and others they look up to leave one by one.
“It feels like all the people who made this place incredible are leaving,” the Twitter staffer said. “It will be extremely hard for Twitter to recover from here, no matter how hardcore the people who remain try to be.”
Multiple “critical” engineering teams inside Twitter have now either completely or near-completely resigned, said another employee who requested anonymity to speak without Musk’s permission. For example, the team that maintains Twitter’s core system libraries that every engineer at the company uses is gone after Thursday. “You cannot run Twitter without this team,” the employee said.
Musk’s first priority as Twitter’s new owner has been to fundamentally reset its work culture. In an email to employees this week that was obtained by The Verge, he wrote: “Going forward, to build a breakthrough Twitter 2.0 and succeed in an increasingly competitive world, we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.”
Many employees have chafed at Musk’s management style, and Musk himself has grown paranoid that they will sabotage the company. He met with a small group of senior engineers earlier on Thursday to hear why so many of them planned to leave, according to employees familiar with the meeting. Shortly after Musk’s deadline to opt into staying at the company hit, an unsigned email was sent to employees saying that badge access to its offices was suspended “effective immediately” until Monday.
Departing Twitter employees have been told they will receive at least three months of pay, though they haven’t had a chance to review their separation agreements yet. Employees who decide to stay also don’t know how Musk plans to compensate them with stock now that Twitter is a private company, though he has said that “exceptional” performers will receive stock options like they do at SpaceX, his other privately-held firm.
Meanwhile, Twitter recruiters have already started reaching out to outside engineers to see if they want to join “Twitter 2.0 - an Elon company,” according to a message sent to one recruit that was seen by The Verge.
“I have worked here at Twitter for over 11 years,” one employee wrote in Twitter’s Slack as the salute emojis poured in Thursday. “Back in July, I was the 27th most tenured employee at the company. Now I’m the 15th.”
“Where did all these chopped onions come from,” another employee message read.
Departing employees also tweeted their decisions to leave. We’ve collected some that you can see below:
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DragoonKain

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Elon has been a part of a lot of amazing projects, but destroying that god forsaken platform might be the most important thing for society he's ever done.

That said, it's not going to happen, a bunch of tech dorks are being drama queens.
 
Maiden Voyage

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At the end of the day I think we can all be happy that Japan had a better user experience for a few hours. That made it all worth it.



www.reuters.com

After Elon Musk's ultimatum, Twitter employees start exiting

Hundreds of Twitter Inc employees are estimated to have decided to quit the beleaguered social media company following a Thursday deadline from new owner Elon Musk that staffers sign up for "long hours at high intensity," or leave.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

On Thursday evening, the version of the Twitter app used by employees began slowing down, according to one source familiar with the matter, who estimated that the public version of Twitter was at risk of breaking during the night.

"If it does break, there is no one left to fix things in many areas," the person said, who declined to be named for fear of retribution.

Reports of Twitter outages rose sharply from less than 50 to about 350 reports on Thursday evening, according to website Downdetector, which tracks website and app outages.
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Goon_Bong

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Elon should have stuck to cars and rockets. There are reasons why you don't get an accountant to perform brain surgery.

In either case, it's pretty good entertainment and a wild way to blow 50 billion. And if that shitpit does end up going under society will certainly benefit.
 
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adamsapple said:
Holy shit I had to mute Wario's twitter cause it's the non stop beeping noises from new people joining.
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I permamuted the welcome channel since that's just people joining and then changed general to mentions assuming he will tag people when there are posts. That has silenced everything unnecessary.
 
Dee Dah Dave

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How many lines of code is Twitter exactly, it can’t, or shouldn’t be humongous.

Just sack everyone.
Hire about 100 genuine top tier programmers. Not JavaScript kiddies, programmers.
Rewrite the code base where necessary.
Profit!
 
EviLore

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There is a quote that comes to mind.

“I noticed that the dynamic range between what an average person could accomplish and what the best person could accomplish was 50 or 100 to 1. Given that, you’re well advised to go after the cream of the cream … A small team of A+ players can run circles around a giant team of B and C players.”

I said the other day that I don't think Twitter's mission has the same kind of pull that elevated Tesla and SpaceX into ultra desirable engineering hubs where millions of people apply for the chance of getting in and they select the handful of best and brightest. But we'll see how it shakes out. Elon has some personal pull.

Of course, that will be moot if all the users leave Twitter, but you can't build a scaleable replacement overnight. Current drama may not be indicative of anything significant.
 
Trazyn the Infinite

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EviLore said:
There is a quote that comes to mind.

“I noticed that the dynamic range between what an average person could accomplish and what the best person could accomplish was 50 or 100 to 1. Given that, you’re well advised to go after the cream of the cream … A small team of A+ players can run circles around a giant team of B and C players.”

I said the other day that I don't think Twitter's mission has the same kind of pull that elevated Tesla and SpaceX into ultra desirable engineering hubs where millions of people apply for the chance of getting in and they select the handful of best and brightest. But we'll see how it shakes out. Elon has some personal pull.

Of course, that will be moot if all the users leave Twitter, but you can't build a scaleable replacement overnight. Current drama may not be indicative of anything significant.
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Yep. Also let's be honest - how many are *actually* leaving Twitter? I doubt its very many. This all reeks of performative actions with no actual spine. Like how a WoW player says he will quit WoW, but inevitably returns a few months later.

Maiden Voyage said:
@dril out
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Who?
 
ReBurn

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Dee Dah Dave said:
How many lines of code is Twitter exactly, it can’t, or shouldn’t be humongous.

Just sack everyone.
Hire about 100 genuine top tier programmers. Not JavaScript kiddies, programmers.
Rewrite the code base where necessary.
Profit!
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You probably don't need 100 top tier programmers for that. I've built things more complex with way fewer people. Twitter doesn't have that many features. Some backend and API folks, a couple of front-end devs and a couple of mobile devs, some data and networking folks and you could probably build out one that looks just like it of it in a couple of months, admin interfaces included.

A technology team of 50 could build it and keep it running. The challenge is keeping it viable as a business. That's where he's going to continue to struggle. Elon has been looking at Twitter as a technology problem. Twitter's business is people and Elon isn't good at people.
 
-Zelda-

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All these people leaving twitter won't be missed. Twitter is just going through it's own change similar to what happened to NeoGaf and will be better for it just like NeoGaf is.
 
akimbo009

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EviLore said:
There is a quote that comes to mind.

“I noticed that the dynamic range between what an average person could accomplish and what the best person could accomplish was 50 or 100 to 1. Given that, you’re well advised to go after the cream of the cream … A small team of A+ players can run circles around a giant team of B and C players.”

I said the other day that I don't think Twitter's mission has the same kind of pull that elevated Tesla and SpaceX into ultra desirable engineering hubs where millions of people apply for the chance of getting in and they select the handful of best and brightest. But we'll see how it shakes out. Elon has some personal pull.

Of course, that will be moot if all the users leave Twitter, but you can't build a scaleable replacement overnight. Current drama may not be indicative of anything significant.
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I don't think this works here. Systems break, whether in the physical data centers (Twitter runs their own infra), or need to be on call, or otherwise crank than random wheels to keep lights on. This isn't just a coding problem, it's an operational problem that operates at the edge of computer science. You can't just hope you can get 1/10th of the people to handle things when sleep and eating are a real factor. It's also dismissive to assume that there is 90% overhead in the org - that's just not reasonable no matter how smart the people you bring in.

I actually personally know a few of these folks - and while I squint at their problem with a little skepticism (it's a data streaming/analytics problem at the end of the day) - it's not going to be immediately improved with 1 or 2 random engineers - cause it's all about leadership, breaking down the problem, and leading through others. If you are just a crony - a smart one - of the boss, no one will listen or challenge you to find the right answer which is mandatory for a good engineering culture.

Get the best - for sure - but you catch more bees with honey than vinegar all I see is vinegar from this approach.
 
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