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[tommib]

Phil Spencer set up an account over at Mastodon:

http://[URL]https://mastodon.sdf.org/@xboxp3

[/URL]

https://mastodon.sdf.org/@jimryan

 

[Bragr]

He’s a nihilistic corporate monopolist Trump with a dogmatic legion.

Ah, come on, enough with the corny hyperbole. He's not even 1% of Trump. He has just handled Twitter poorly.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

https://mastodon.sdf.org/@jimryan

List of notables in the gaming space so far:
Playstation:

Jim Ryan - https://mastodon.sdf.org/@jimryan (unconfirmed)​

Xbox:

Aaron Greenberg - https://mastodon.sdf.org/@aarongreenberg​

Major Nelson - https://mastodon.social/@majornelson@ohai.social​

Phil Spencer - https://mastodon.sdf.org/@xboxp3​

Storefronts:
Itch.io - https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@itchio

Outlets:

GameIndustry.biz - https://mastodon.social/@GIbiz​

Gaming On Linux: https://mastodon.social/@gamingonlinux​

Giant Bomb - https://mastodon.social/@therealgiantbomb​

Game Developers:
Chubigans (Indie / Cook, Server, Delicious) - https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@chubigans
Kevin VanOrd (Larian / Divinty OS / Baldur’s Gate 3) - https://cohost.org/fiddlecub
Ron Gilbert (Thimbleweed Park / Monkey Island) - https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@grumpygamer
Terry Cavanaugh (VVVVVV) - https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@terry
Tim Happ (Axiom Verge) - https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@AxiomVerge
Tim Schafer (Double Fine / Psychonauts) - https://mastodon.social/@TimOfLegend

Game Companies:
Double Fine - https://mastodon.social/@doublefine

Influencers/Writers:

Austin Walker - https://cohost.org/austin​

Jeff Gerstmann Cohost - https://cohost.org/jeffgerstmann​

Jeff Gerstmann Mastodon - https://mastodon.social/@jeffgerstmann​

Wario 64 Cohost - https://cohost.org/wario64​

Wario 64 Discord - https://discord.gg/mTFxq9XJjv​

Wario 64 Mastodon - https://mastodon.social/@Wario64​

 

[Fermbiz]

So Mastodon is basically a Discord chat?

 

[tommib]

List of notables in the gaming space so far:
Playstation:

https://mastodon.sdf.org/@jimryan​

Xbox:

https://mastodon.sdf.org/@xboxp3​

Outlets:

https://mastodon.social/@therealgiantbomb​

​

Misc.

https://mastodon.social/@Wario64​

​

You’re forgetting the biggest one:

The Jim Ryan one looks fake. Missing green checkmark. But it was created 1 hour ago.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

So Mastodon is basically a Discord chat?

No, the way I've read it described is that it's like Twitter and Email combined. There are different servers (webhosts) that can run. You only need an account on one of them. mastodon.social seems to be the biggest one and it's an official instance run by Mastodon.

I could be way off here, as my knowledge is all second hand.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

You’re forgetting the biggest one:

The Jim Ryan one looks fake. Missing green checkmark. But it was created 1 hour ago.

Added and I will remove the JR one, I didn't realize he is not on Twitter. Most likely a fake or just someone holding the username.

 

[Swift_Star]

Elon was frustrated that no one showed up at the office and everyone was working at home, he kept talking about how the HQ was virtually empty. He's trying to uproot the work practices and the twitter employees hate it. They are lashing out about it. It's all over Twitter.

So you have no source about anything other than that stupid guy's tweets? lol

 

[Bragr]

mastadon is like resetera. I would wait until better alternatives are around.

It's strange how few twitter clones there are.

 

[Bragr]

So you have no source about anything other than that stupid guy's tweets? lol

If you didn't know already, he's the one running it. lol.

 

[reksveks]

Dude hit the nail on the head

One half of a great podcast duo

https://pca.st/podcast/6fd43fe0-9a3f-0133-2dbd-6dc413d6d41d

 

[Maiden Voyage]

mastadon is like resetera. I would wait until better alternatives are around.

It's strange how few twitter clones there are.

If they post links to other networks, I will include those as well. So far it seems like Mastodon is where the biggest names are moving.

 

[ManaByte]

 

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[Bitmap Frogs]

So Mastodon is basically a Discord chat?

Not exactly: discord rooms are isolated while mastodon servers are not isolated.

It would be like if from a discord room you had access to other discord rooms as long as the admins of the rooms agree to it.

 

[SJRB]

We'll see.

So far the crucial importance of a lot of employees has been rather.. exaggerated.

 

[Kraz]

The most absurd thing happened to Twitter is not many member of the staff are leaving the company or Elon keep saying crazy shits or some user outraged or all the jokes about Twitter Blu, but the company is left without a guide or moderation and no one can see the difference.

The only real difference in twitter for me over the last week up to yesterday was the lack of politics in the trending. Nothing local, nothing foreign, no US announcements. Nothing really recent either. #RIPJimmyFallon has been up there for 4 days. Might be regional and due to lack of employees. Browsing still uninterrupted for my uses. If more gov spokespeople, orgs, experts, business and such move on to a different similar site in case Twitter goes down then that's probably where people would follow and promote the site by linking.

 

[Interfectum]

We'll see.

So far the crucial importance of a lot of employees has been rather.. exaggerated.

We don't know that yet. We'll know when something goes wrong with their servers, network, DNS, browser updates, mobile OS updates, backup jobs, hacks, bugs, etc. Working in IT doesn't mean you are sweating 24/7, a lot of the job is to maintain and R&D. If all of those people are gone then we'll know when something happens to the software or infrastructure.

 

[Vestal]

Obviously, a 50% cut is hard but my org was cut at 85%+ on the first round. (An admitted mistake by leadership when they were trying to retain the survivors) I was the last one standing in multiple large slack rooms and JIRA boards. The office was depressing.Nevertheless myself and others were banding together, triaging services, updating on-call, literally saying to my wife on Tuesday “I’ll give it my best shot what do I have to lose?”. Then Wednesday offered a clean exit and 80% of the remaining were gone. 3/75 engineers stayed.If I stayed I would have been on-call constantly with little support for an indeterminate amount of time on several additional complex systems I had no experience in. Maybe for the right vision I could have dug deep and done mind numbing work for awhile. But that’s the thing…There was no vision shared with us. No 5 year plan like at Tesla. Nothing more than what anyone can see on Twitter. It allegedly is coming for those who stayed but the ask was blind faith and required signing away the severance offer before seeing it. Pure loyalty test.

Blind faith doesn't work when you have a family and need to pay bills.

 

[IWasInSeinfeld]

So, why exactly should Twitter die? I don't really see it happening unless 60% of it's real users will one day stop using the platform altogether, but for that to happen... I don't know even know how you can achieve that.

 

[Swift_Star]

If you didn't know already, he's the one running it. lol.

And he’s a known liar, not reliable and very incompetent at his job.
If you think working at home is bad for devs, you’re not very good at being an employer.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

When the Twitter servers burn down and they are sweeping away the ashes they are going to finally find the piss tape in there, I can feel it.

 

[ManaByte]

mastadon is like resetera. I would wait until better alternatives are around.

It's strange how few twitter clones there are.

 

[DeepEnigma]

This is the culture that is being cleansed.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

He only moderates 2 servers, he’s not the king of mastodon like Musk is the king of Twitter.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[a multicultural team of v]

So Mastodon is basically a Discord chat?

 

[Bragr]

Jesus christ, they are even worse than resetera.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Jesus christ, they are even worse than resetera.

I repeat he’s not the king of mastodon, he only moderates 2 servers.

 

[Bragr]

And he’s a known liar, not reliable and very incompetent at his job.
If you think working at home is bad for devs, you’re not very good at being an employer.

Most of the staff working at home is terrible for the work culture. Some people handle it well, but there is a point where it affects work culture, we dealt with that at our job post-covid, as did many other companies.

He's the source. He is THE source. It's the ones quoting him you shouldn't believe. What he was saying was confirmed by the employees.

 

[Bragr]

I repeat he’s not the king of mastodon, he only moderates 2 servers.

Depends on what servers though. mastodon's separate server is gonna be a breeding space for even more radical views than twitter I fear. We will see soon how the big ones turn out.

 

[Kraz]

It's interesting watching this problem with migration being calmly ironed out real time in public. Cross-validation until habits change and trust is established in the appearance in the federation.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

It's interesting watching this problem with migration being calmly ironed out real time in public. Cross-validation until habits change and trust is established in the appearance in the federation.

Twitter style verification is not going to happen, the only thing they can do is let admins bestow a verified label but then nothing stops you from self hosting an instance and start verifying a bunch of impersonators.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

So, why exactly should Twitter die? I don't really see it happening unless 60% of it's real users will one day stop using the platform altogether, but for that to happen... I don't know even know how you can achieve that.

It's not why it should die, it's what would cause it to die. There is speculation based on Elon's public posts that he doesn't really comprehend the operating code structure of the platform. Add on losing a rumored 80-90% of the original staff and the picture only gets more grim.

Whether the collapse will happen or not is yet to be seen. If it doesn't happen, there is still the issue of finding a sustainable and long-term source of revenue now that advertising income has largely evaporated.

 

[pleaseinsertdisctwo]

It genuinely concerns me that you think you know someone you have never met better than any of us who have also never met that person.

Don’t be dense please.

 

[Melon Husk]

Fake drama, it's not gonna die

It's free marketing guys

 

[Maiden Voyage]

 

[Swift_Star]

Most of the staff working at home is terrible for the work culture. Some people handle it well, but there is a point where it affects work culture, we dealt with that at our job post-covid, as did many other companies.

Literally the only people saying that are CEO's that want full control of the employers. The workers themselves love working from home.
You can go to the office once a week, twice a month whatever, but it's completely unnecessary and a waste of time and money to do so.
Also, the other reason they want employers to go to the office is to not DEVALUE the buildings. They don't care about work culture lmao. They only care about money. The smart CEOs have already disposed of their buildings. The dumb ones haven't.

He's the source. He is THE source. It's the ones quoting him you shouldn't believe. What he was saying was confirmed by the employees.

He's completely unreliable. He's a manchild crying that people don't want to work with him because he's a terrible leader, he's incompetent, he can't handle critiques. Long story shot: he sucks at his job.
Also, he wanted devs to crunch, to work long hours and during weekends lmao.
Nobody trusts Elon. You shouldn't either.

 

[strange headache]

All the hysterical doomsaying is mostly just wishful thinking coordinated by a salty media cabal that declared Musk vogelfrei for meddling with their social media influence.

With more than 2.000 employees Twitter had a massive administrative overhead with many useless positions. The media are now jumping at these disgruntled ex-workers in order to shovel and throw more dirt at Musk. In comparison, Whatsapp was bought for $19 billion and only had 55 employees. Whatsapp has over two billion active users compared to the 400 million Twitter users, it is a social media giant.

The fearmongering is out of this world.

 

[Vestal]

Literally the only people saying that are CEO's that want full control of the employers. The workers themselves love working from home.
You can go to the office once a week, twice a month whatever, but it's completely unnecessary and a waste of time and money to do so.
Also, the reason they want employers to go to the office is to not DEVALUE the buildings. They don't care about work culture lmao. They only care about money. The smart CEOs have already disposed of their buildings. The dumb ones haven't.

A big yup to this. As a IT Sec Software Engineer 95% of what I need to do I can take care of WFH. The other 5% are either conferences, or our 4 times a year team gatherings.

During those 4 meetups:
1. Set the agenda for the quarter
2. Discuss future plans
3. Fine tune roadmaps
4. Team build

That's really all you need from an in person perspective to maintain a cohesive remote team.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

So one of things about Mastodon that's interesting is the idea of these different instances. For example, Phil Spencer is on the SDF instance. Each instance/server has its own rules. So theoretically, groups that are marginalized could create their own instance, with rules they wish to govern with. Because Mastodon is not beholden to advertising for revenue (each instance is paid by the owner, not Mastodon). A seeming non-advertising friendly community could be self-sustaining. Likewise, you could have a .Gov, official instance (though I am unclear if registration can be restricted for non-gov accounts).

In the about page of Mastodon.social (the closest to an official instance, if I understand correctly), there is a viewable section that lists out the servers that are not allowed to interact or show posts. It's quite a long list and I assume it would be a shared list for those who want a specific kind of community/content control for their own instance. This could create several communities within Mastodon that never even interact with others. IE: there could be isolated communities based around religion, politics, career , etc. that never actually see posts from communities they do not like.

The platform is actually really interesting but the depth will bog down the number of every day users without a doubt. This might actually act as a nice hurdle to prevent idiots from joining. I'm actually a bit more interested in Mastodon for this reason. I'd rather have a more selective user base (a la Gaf) vs an open one to help drive an increase in the quality of content.

I'm still wrapping my brain around what exactly Mastodon is so I could be way off on the line of thinking here. I don't think we will see wide adoption due to the complexity of Mastodon, though what does break through will probably be better for the users.

 

[Halo is Back]

Doesn't seem like a desirable outcome:

We traded one monster for another

 

[strange headache]

So one of things about Mastodon that's interesting is the idea of these different instances. For example, Phil Spencer is on the SDF instance. Each instance/server has its own rules. So theoretically, groups that are marginalized could create their own instance, with rules they wish to govern with. Because Mastodon is not beholden to advertising for revenue (each instance is paid by the owner, not Mastodon). A seeming non-advertising friendly community could be self-sustaining. Likewise, you could have a .Gov, official instance (though I am unclear if registration can be restricted for non-gov accounts).

In the about page of Mastodon.social (the closest to an official instance, if I understand correctly), there is a viewable section that lists out the servers that are not allowed to interact or show posts. It's quite a long list and I assume it would be a shared list for those who want a specific kind of community/content control for their own instance. This could create several communities within Mastodon that never even interact with others. IE: there could be isolated communities based around religion, politics, career , etc. that never actually see posts from communities they do not like.

The platform is actually really interesting but the depth will bog down the number of every day users without a doubt. This might actually act as a nice hurdle to prevent idiots from joining. I'm actually a bit more interested in Mastodon for this reason. I'd rather have a more selective user base (a la Gaf) vs an open one to help drive an increase in the quality of content.

I'm still wrapping my brain around what exactly Mastodon is so I could be way off on the line of thinking here. I don't think we will see wide adoption due to the complexity of Mastodon, though what does break through will probably be better for the users.

Sounds like Mastodon will only worsen the balkanization of the internet and the creation of information bubbles. The resulting fragmented audience is why this will never be as attractive to media outlets as something like Twitter or Insta.

 

[Zathalus]

US Senators Warren, Durbin Probe FTX Collapse

After the spectacular implosion of FTX last week, questions about what brought the once-mighty exchange to its knees are swirling – and lawmakers want answers.

www.coindesk.com

Since when has the truth ever stopped Elon?

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Sounds like Mastodon will only worsen the balkanization of the internet and the creation of information bubbles. The resulting fragmented audience is why this will never be as attractive to media outlets as something like Twitter or Insta.

I think it is more continuing the status quo than anything, not necessarily making it worse.

 

[TaylorSwiftFan]

How many lines of code is Twitter exactly, it can’t, or shouldn’t be humongous.

Just sack everyone.
Hire about 100 genuine top tier programmers. Not JavaScript kiddies, programmers.
Rewrite the code base where necessary.
Profit!

I reckon 50 would be enough.

 

[akimbo009]

I think it is more continuing the status quo than anything, not necessarily making it worse.

Suggesting a more decentralized internet is a bad thing isn't fair. In fact, I would prefer it. It defuses the madness and prevent any one voice or forum to overrun the narrative. I think it's a healthier world to have dozens of smaller communities to discuss things than one global system which allows for abuse or inappropriate amplification of messaging.

 

[Clear]

Literally the only people saying that are CEO's that want full control of the employers. The workers themselves love working from home.

Not true. Making blanket statements like this is laughable.

For a start off it assumes the home life of every employee is the same, that they all have space and quiet and are free from distractions like kids and family members wanting/needing their attention but now are not allowed to get it because its "work" time.

If you "love it", fine. But everyone? Hell, fucking no. Obviously.

Not even everyone who works for themselves from home is going to "love it"!

 

[diffusionx]

Lost in all the shitlib bluecheck gloating over Twitter is that the site never made any money and was universally acknowledged to be the worst run big tech site. One that had tons of unmet potential, could never figure it out, and was in major need of a shake up. So I can’t see why a major shake up is a bad thing or anything.

 

[V1LÆM]

if people are going back to facebook/instagram then yeah i'm not doing that lol.

the only social media i use is reddit, twitter, and here (and a couple other non gaming forums). i don't post on reddit or twitter.

i might check mastodon out and try discord again. when i tried signing up for discord they disabled my account. if that doesn't work out then i guess i'll just stick to reddit and forums. fuck facebook/instagram and tiktok.